From yary@apicom.com Thu Sep 4 09:29:15 2008 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2007-08-08) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.9 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00,FOURLA, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED autolearn=ham version=3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: (at submit) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 4 Sep 2008 16:29:16 +0000 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org (fencepost.gnu.org [140.186.70.10]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m84GTC8a024565 for ; Thu, 4 Sep 2008 09:29:13 -0700 Received: from mail.gnu.org ([199.232.76.166]:56574 helo=mx10.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1KbHgC-0000xH-9s for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Sep 2008 12:27:32 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KbHhk-00023Q-Vx for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Sep 2008 12:29:11 -0400 Received: from bell.apicom.com ([216.27.178.243]:55002) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KbHhk-00022T-F4 for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Sep 2008 12:29:08 -0400 Received: from bell.apicom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bell.apicom.com (8.13.5.20060614/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m84GSq7p018120 for ; Thu, 4 Sep 2008 09:28:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200809041628.m84GSq7p018120@bell.apicom.com> To: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org Subject: 23.0.60; "Recover Crashed Session" fails "No files can be recovered" Date: Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:28:52 -0700 From: Yary Hluchan X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: NetBSD 3.0 (DF) I'm running Emacs 23 on a laptop, and the laptop sometimes loses power. That's not the problem. When I boot and restart Emacs, I go to the File menu > "Recover Crashed Session", it brings up a window like so: Move to the session you want to recover, then type C-c C-c to select it. You can also delete some of these files; type d on a line to mark that file for deletion. c:/Documents and Settings/Stephen Edwards/Application Data/.emacs.d/auto-save-list: wildcard .saves-* total used in directory 5 available 21636216 -rw-rw-rw- 1 Yary None 778 09-02 16:13 .saves-360-POPNOTE~ -rw-rw-rw- 1 Yary None 382 08-15 09:21 .saves-1648-POPNOTE~ -rw-rw-rw- 1 Yary None 138 08-10 15:06 .saves-2560-POPNOTE~ ... I put the cursor on the first line (".saves-360-POPNOTE~") and hit C-c C-C, and get this error in *Messages*: No files can be recovered from this session now That error happens for any of the .saves files The contents of .saves-360-POPNOTE~: c:/Documents and Settings/Stephen Edwards/My Documents/programming projects/API/brocade/src/mantis-trunk/phase3/process_files_new.php c:\Documents and Settings\Stephen Edwards\My Documents\programming projects\API\brocade\src\mantis-trunk\phase3\#process_files_new.php# c:/Documents and Settings/Stephen Edwards/My Documents/programming projects/API/brocade/src/mantis-trunk/phase3/local_file.php c:\Documents and Settings\Stephen Edwards\My Documents\programming projects\API\brocade\src\mantis-trunk\phase3\#local_file.php# c:/Documents and Settings/Stephen Edwards/My Documents/programming projects/API/brocade/src/mantis-trunk/phase3/filepath.php c:\Documents and Settings\Stephen Edwards\My Documents\programming projects\API\brocade\src\mantis-trunk\phase3\#filepath.php# The files exist, the temp files do not exist- in this case, I had saved all my work. In GNU Emacs 23.0.60.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) of 2008-09-03 on LENNART-69DE564 Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600 configured using `configure --with-gcc (3.4) --no-opt --cflags -Ic:/g/include -fno-crossjumping' Important settings: value of $LC_ALL: nil value of $LC_COLLATE: nil value of $LC_CTYPE: nil value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil value of $LC_MONETARY: nil value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil value of $LC_TIME: nil value of $LANG: ENU value of $XMODIFIERS: nil locale-coding-system: cp1252 default-enable-multibyte-characters: t Major mode: Dired by date Minor modes in effect: recentf-mode: t partial-completion-mode: t tooltip-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t global-auto-composition-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Recent input: C-x 2 C-x k C-x o C-c C-c x r e p o r t - e m Recent messages: File error: Cannot open load file, menuacc To ensure normal operation, you should investigate and remove the cause of the error in your initialization file. Start Emacs with the `--debug-init' option to view a complete error backtrace. For information about GNU Emacs and the GNU system, type C-h C-a. call-interactively: Beginning of buffer No files can be recovered from this session now From eliz@gnu.org Fri Sep 5 02:58:11 2008 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2007-08-08) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.0 required=4.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,HAS_BUG_NUMBER, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,RCVD_IN_NIX1 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: (at submit) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 5 Sep 2008 09:58:11 +0000 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org (fencepost.gnu.org [140.186.70.10]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m859w7sk000431 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 02:58:08 -0700 Received: from mx10.gnu.org ([199.232.76.166]:43017) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1KbY3G-0002Tq-52 for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Sep 2008 05:56:26 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KbY4p-0001ci-Ra for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Sep 2008 05:58:06 -0400 Received: from mtaout3.012.net.il ([84.95.2.7]:57786) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KbY4p-0001cC-Eo for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Sep 2008 05:58:03 -0400 Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([84.229.211.50]) by i_mtaout3.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2004.12) with ESMTPA id <0K6P006VPVPUU7I1@i_mtaout3.012.net.il> for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Sep 2008 12:58:43 +0300 (IDT) Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2008 12:58:01 +0300 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#889: 23.0.60; "Recover Crashed Session" fails "No files can be recovered" In-reply-to: <200809041628.m84GSq7p018120@bell.apicom.com> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: Yary Hluchan , 889@debbugs.gnu.org Cc: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org Reply-to: Eli Zaretskii Message-id: References: <200809041628.m84GSq7p018120@bell.apicom.com> X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Solaris 9.1 X-CrossAssassin-Score: 2 > Date: Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:28:52 -0700 > From: Yary Hluchan > Cc: > > The files exist, the temp files do not exist- in this case, I had > saved all my work. Please clarify: which of the files you mentioned in your report exist and which don't. Thanks. From yary@apicom.com Fri Sep 5 09:40:12 2008 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2007-08-08) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-9.2 required=4.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,HAS_BUG_NUMBER, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED autolearn=ham version=3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: (at submit) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 5 Sep 2008 16:40:12 +0000 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org (fencepost.gnu.org [140.186.70.10]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m85Ge8D6010528 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 09:40:10 -0700 Received: from mail.gnu.org ([199.232.76.166]:39709 helo=mx10.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1KbeKJ-00005t-7y for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Sep 2008 12:38:27 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KbeLs-0000S6-OK for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Sep 2008 12:40:07 -0400 Received: from bell.apicom.com ([216.27.178.243]:64136) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KbeLo-0000PQ-U9; Fri, 05 Sep 2008 12:40:01 -0400 Received: from bell.apicom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bell.apicom.com (8.13.5.20060614/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m85Gdfcd016763; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 09:39:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200809051639.m85Gdfcd016763@bell.apicom.com> To: Eli Zaretskii cc: 889@debbugs.gnu.org, emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#889: 23.0.60; "Recover Crashed Session" fails "No files can be recovered" In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 05 Sep 2008 12:58:01 +0300." Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2008 09:39:41 -0700 From: Yary Hluchan X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: NetBSD 3.0 (DF) X-CrossAssassin-Score: 2 These files exist: c:/Documents and Settings/Stephen Edwards/My Documents/programming projects/API/brocade/src/mantis-trunk/phase3/process_files_new.php c:/Documents and Settings/Stephen Edwards/My Documents/programming projects/API/brocade/src/mantis-trunk/phase3/local_file.php c:/Documents and Settings/Stephen Edwards/My Documents/programming projects/API/brocade/src/mantis-trunk/phase3/filepath.php These files don't exist: c:\Documents and Settings\Stephen Edwards\My Documents\programming projects\API\brocade\src\mantis-trunk\phase3\#process_files_new.php# c:\Documents and Settings\Stephen Edwards\My Documents\programming projects\API\brocade\src\mantis-trunk\phase3\#local_file.php# c:\Documents and Settings\Stephen Edwards\My Documents\programming projects\API\brocade\src\mantis-trunk\phase3\#filepath.php# -y ~~~~~ The Moon is Waxing Crescent (32% of Full) From rgm@gnu.org Thu Dec 11 14:52:35 2008 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2007-08-08) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.0000 Tokens: new, 25; hammy, 36; neutral, 40; spammy, 0. spammytokens: hammytokens:0.000-+--H*UA:Emacs, 0.000-+--H*r:140.186.70, 0.000-+--H*r:sk:fencepo, 0.000-+--H*r:ip*140.186.70.10, 0.000-+--H*MI:fencepost X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.8 required=4.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,MISSING_SUBJECT, NOSUBJECT,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,X_DEBBUGS_NO_ACK autolearn=ham version=3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: (at control) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 11 Dec 2008 22:52:35 +0000 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org (fencepost.gnu.org [140.186.70.10]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id mBBMqWcQ022106 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2008 14:52:33 -0800 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1LAuNt-0002dz-Ar; Thu, 11 Dec 2008 17:51:53 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <18753.39305.269718.705841@fencepost.gnu.org> Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 17:51:53 -0500 From: Glenn Morris To: control X-Attribution: GM X-Mailer: VM (www.wonderworks.com/vm), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs) X-Hue: red X-Ran: zT3)2s9uS:P*4j,lsAcM3-k'eDarhbX{qRfKCE[NkX@D*|W.7}aw#4i!T&$}QouQ^,yFCZ X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes notforwarded 1078 severity 726 important severity 787 minor reassign 807 emacs,w32 reassign 879 emacs,w32 severity 889 minor From era+emacsbugs@iki.fi Thu Dec 18 00:15:50 2008 Received: (at 889) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 18 Dec 2008 08:15:51 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2007-08-08) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=4.0 tests=none autolearn=ham version=3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com (out1.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id mBI8FlR6016148 for <889@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Thu, 18 Dec 2008 00:15:48 -0800 Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.internal [10.202.2.41]) by out1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DF971E7E1B for <889@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Thu, 18 Dec 2008 03:15:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from web6.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.215]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Thu, 18 Dec 2008 03:15:46 -0500 Received: by web6.messagingengine.com (Postfix, from userid 99) id 21FE2C775B; Thu, 18 Dec 2008 03:15:46 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <1229588146.7256.1290698721@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-Sasl-Enc: i/5z+fxLo73IQffm3XSVnzC9P7YceYHzeOgdqnGFouYe 1229588146 From: era+emacsbugs@iki.fi To: 889@debbugs.gnu.org Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-15" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface Subject: Re: "Recover Crashed Session" fails "No files can be recovered" Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 10:15:46 +0200 > No files can be recovered from this session now <...> > The files exist, the temp files do not exist- in this case, I had > saved all my work. I think this is basically a misunderstanding of what "recover-session" does. Emacs saves some state while you are editing. These are stored in the temporary files you see in the .saves-* file. If you have unsaved changes, recover-session can help you reclaim the unsaved data from the temporary files into the proper files. It does not "recover" your "session" back to the way it was before the crash. (The package "desktop" does something like this, but you have to invoke "desktop-save" explicitly in order to start it.) The Info documentation for Emacs explains this fairly well. http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/emacs/Recover.html Granted, I think it would be a lot more useful if recover-session could work in the way the reporter expected. In the meantime, perhaps the docstring for recover-session should be clarified. I have a private bit of elisp I call "recover-buffers" but it's not on the machine where I'm writing this. Remind me to follow up here with a pointer to a public repository in a few weeks. Thanks. /* era */ -- If this were a real .signature, it would suck less. Well, maybe not. From era+emacsbugs@iki.fi Tue Jan 13 23:30:44 2009 Received: (at 889) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 14 Jan 2009 07:30:44 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=4.0 tests=none autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com (out1.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n0E7UeAE017644 for <889@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Tue, 13 Jan 2009 23:30:42 -0800 Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.internal [10.202.2.41]) by out1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B78A020FA5F; Wed, 14 Jan 2009 02:30:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from web6.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.215]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 14 Jan 2009 02:30:39 -0500 Received: by web6.messagingengine.com (Postfix, from userid 99) id 8C61BB416E; Wed, 14 Jan 2009 02:30:39 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <1231918239.9132.1294680381@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-Sasl-Enc: v6XKrToKtSfw26M75jvO80wvtI9k8vAAFkvLBe0wxlRd 1231918239 From: era+emacsbugs@iki.fi To: 889@debbugs.gnu.org Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-15" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface References: <200901121749.n0CHnLDW006634@bell.apicom.com> Subject: Re: "Recover Crashed Session" fails "No files can be recovered" In-Reply-To: <200901121749.n0CHnLDW006634@bell.apicom.com> Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 09:30:39 +0200 On Mon, 12 Jan 2009 09:49:21 -0800, "Yary Hluchan" said: > Here's your reminder! Thanks. I set up a public Darcs repo at http://porkmail.org/elisp/recover-buffers Darcs isn't invasive; you don't actually need Darcs to download it. In fact you can just browse the code by visiting that URL. This piggybacks on recover-session, and then just redefines the C-c C-c keybinding to run recover-buffers-finish instead of recover-session-finish. It does call recover-session-finish from inside recover-buffers-finish, but then proceeds to visit all files from the auto-save file. The recover-buffers-skip-list feature probably isn't very useful; my vague recollection is that my previous version had this feature because recovering remote Tramp files used to be something I didn't want to attempt, but these days Tramp is well-supported and I haven't come up with any other scenario where I would actually still want this. So perhaps it should just be obsoleted. Hope this is useful for y'all, /* era */ -- If this were a real .signature, it would suck less. Well, maybe not. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jul 06 14:05:47 2011 Received: (at 889) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Jul 2011 18:05:47 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QeWTr-0007uj-Kv for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 Jul 2011 14:05:47 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QeWTo-0007uE-IB for 889@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 Jul 2011 14:05:45 -0400 Received: from cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no ([84.215.51.58] helo=quimbies.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QeWTc-00089V-2R; Wed, 06 Jul 2011 20:05:32 +0200 From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen To: Yary Hluchan Subject: Re: 23.0.60; "Recover Crashed Session" fails "No files can be recovered" In-Reply-To: <200809041628.m84GSq7p018120@bell.apicom.com> (Yary Hluchan's message of "Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:28:52 -0700") Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2011 20:05:18 +0200 Message-ID: References: <200809041628.m84GSq7p018120@bell.apicom.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Now-Playing: Anna =?iso-8859-1?Q?J=E4rvinen's?= _Man var bland molnen_: "Nattmusik" X-Hashcash: 1:23:110706:889@debbugs.gnu.org::C5COSEBxsk8P9lIs:000000000000000000000000000000000000000000bXOm X-Hashcash: 1:23:110706:yary@apicom.com::D1HjkU5if4w1a5Aj:01fvnH MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1QeWTc-00089V-2R X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1310580332.26814@gkbknQKUmOkax8mGL3zWfQ X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: -2.8 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 889 Cc: 889@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.8 (--) Yary Hluchan writes: > I'm running Emacs 23 on a laptop, and the laptop sometimes loses power. > That's not the problem. > > When I boot and restart Emacs, I go to the File menu > "Recover Crashed > Session", it brings up a window like so: > > Move to the session you want to recover, > then type C-c C-c to select it. > > You can also delete some of these files; > type d on a line to mark that file for deletion. > > c:/Documents and Settings/Stephen Edwards/Application Data/.emacs.d/auto-save-list: > wildcard .saves-* > total used in directory 5 available 21636216 > -rw-rw-rw- 1 Yary None 778 09-02 16:13 .saves-360-POPNOTE~ > -rw-rw-rw- 1 Yary None 382 08-15 09:21 .saves-1648-POPNOTE~ > -rw-rw-rw- 1 Yary None 138 08-10 15:06 .saves-2560-POPNOTE~ > ... > > I put the cursor on the first line (".saves-360-POPNOTE~") and hit > C-c C-C, and get this error in *Messages*: > > No files can be recovered from this session now I'm unable to reproduce this bug in Emacs 24. If I have a ~/.saves-* file, where some of the files are deleted, and some are not, `M-x recover-session' correctly recovers the non-deleted files. So either this bug has been fixed by now, or there's something in your setup I'm now able to reproduce. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/ From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jul 06 14:05:36 2011 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Jul 2011 18:05:36 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QeWTg-0007u1-FZ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 Jul 2011 14:05:36 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QeWTe-0007tg-BC for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 Jul 2011 14:05:35 -0400 Received: from cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no ([84.215.51.58] helo=quimbies.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QeWTS-000894-Hv for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 Jul 2011 20:05:22 +0200 Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2011 20:05:21 +0200 Message-Id: To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #889 X-MailScanner-ID: 1QeWTS-000894-Hv X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1310580323.05915@j2ICMDRn5hCaEMBSqrIuYA X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: -2.8 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.8 (--) tags 889 unreproducible From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Jul 12 04:49:19 2011 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 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Sat, 6 Aug 2011 07:56:10 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <1312631770.8034.2160131893@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-Sasl-Enc: z0YRdnkkOmmtKzyCC8EHztePToK2Bs75nW24igH5n/h0 1312631770 From: "era eriksson" To: 889@debbugs.gnu.org, control@debbugs.gnu.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface Subject: Reopen #889 Date: Sat, 06 Aug 2011 14:56:10 +0300 X-Spam-Score: -3.4 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 889 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -3.4 (---) reopen 889 thanks [Resend -- attempted to reopen before, with a Cc: to Larsi.] On Wed, 06 Jul 2011 20:05:18 +0200, Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen wrote: > I'm unable to reproduce this bug in Emacs 24. If I have a ~/.saves-* > file, where some of the files are deleted, and some are not, `M-x > recover-session' correctly recovers the non-deleted files. > So either this bug has been fixed by now, or there's something in your > setup I'm now able to reproduce. Larsi, I think you misunderstand the issue. My understanding is that this is a feature request: recover-session should recover your entire session after a crash, which it doesn't do, and never has done. Reopening; obviously, feel free to reclose if I am mistaken (and / or there really is such functionality in Emacs24 now. Cursory review of the bzr head suggests that there isn't). /* era */ -- If this were a real .signature, it would suck less. Well, maybe not. /* era */ -- If this were a real .signature, it would suck less. Well, maybe not. 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Well, maybe not. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Feb 26 02:29:16 2015 Received: (at 889) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Feb 2015 07:29:16 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58188 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YQssm-0001uP-3g for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 26 Feb 2015 02:29:16 -0500 Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.25]:49587) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YQssj-0001uE-JO for 889@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 26 Feb 2015 02:29:14 -0500 Received: from compute5.internal (compute5.nyi.internal [10.202.2.45]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09FE920B13 for <889@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 26 Feb 2015 02:29:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from web5 ([10.202.2.215]) by compute5.internal (MEProxy); Thu, 26 Feb 2015 02:29:12 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=message-id:x-sasl-enc:from:to :mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:content-type:subject :date; s=smtpout; bh=hVRsZhUtgOSnuQeAiDUJgNuwQF8=; b=JHzxM8lhg0F UJm1hRAf3rfhSxN5x5uC7LhdxwPKdfUuHgmFH6o/kl9LJV+gGm1gvNellg6rBmoW ws1RmaoZtB4ck3kP1VIHRyj3Cj6Tz8WGfj3VUGFHfLNYGvfNb0y9pQ5KRBfRHlBS dKXRqlinpUbHNRKA7gh5QvO5JR6Dgy+I= Received: by web5.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 99) id 9767AB07DC9; Thu, 26 Feb 2015 02:29:12 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <1424935752.3969097.232639165.13373231@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-Sasl-Enc: rGzE8MTquEytIJrNufitP1dJ1c24r5/14ZurwPO/Q7XH 1424935752 From: era eriksson To: 889@debbugs.gnu.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-4ba7306c Subject: recover-buffers moved Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2015 09:29:12 +0200 X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 889 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) In case somebody still wants to take a look, the recover-buffers code is now hosted on Github. https://github.com/tripleee/recover-buffers The current license is dual GPL/BSD but if you would like to consider inclusion with Emacs, I'd be happy to change it. /* era */ -- If this were a real .signature, it would suck less. Well, maybe not. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Feb 20 09:02:12 2022 Received: (at 889) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Feb 2022 14:02:12 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59654 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nLmmx-0002Ar-In for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 20 Feb 2022 09:02:11 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:54888) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nLmmu-00024u-Qg; Sun, 20 Feb 2022 09:02:09 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=OAtjUNiQs79RJ6pyNJ14YP8sWL4nDpkwG4vv4hlxfQY=; b=LR1UVJ37qTJcDJOxt6yLnCPBpE NGAg/VTBPpDZWRECnnAYOTxv0D6dXe/fOBgMoLib58AhwgSIeB8lJvh0rq+6+DiajMiGgPzvw0wBK elIA0F/jXMD1VurT3qkK0APk8Vw5WLy1Q9gsdhC+0FArEtEw5hTtHAedhK5kU4d2ELqU=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=giant) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nLmml-0002Oa-0L; Sun, 20 Feb 2022 15:02:02 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: "era eriksson" Subject: Re: bug#889: 23.0.60; "Recover Crashed Session" is misleading References: <200809041628.m84GSq7p018120@bell.apicom.com> <1312631770.8034.2160131893@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-Now-Playing: Lydia Lunch's _Queen of Siam_: "Los Banditos" Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2022 15:01:57 +0100 In-Reply-To: <1312631770.8034.2160131893@webmail.messagingengine.com> (era eriksson's message of "Sat, 06 Aug 2011 14:56:10 +0300") Message-ID: <87wnhpr60a.fsf_-_@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: "era eriksson" writes: > Larsi, I think you misunderstand the issue. My understanding is that > this is a feature request: recover-session should recover your entire > session after a crash, which it doesn't do, and never h [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 889 Cc: 889@debbugs.gnu.org, control@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) "era eriksson" writes: > Larsi, I think you misunderstand the issue. My understanding is that > this is a feature request: recover-session should recover your entire > session after a crash, which it doesn't do, and never has done. The function is defined to: --- Recover auto save files from a previous Emacs session. --- Which I think it does successfully? > In case somebody still wants to take a look, the recover-buffers code is > now hosted on Github. > > https://github.com/tripleee/recover-buffers > > The current license is dual GPL/BSD but if you would like to consider > inclusion with Emacs, I'd be happy to change it. If you want to restore the session from where you left off, I think the recommended way to do that is to use the desktop package. recover-session is more lightweight, and your proposed recover-buffers (if I read the code correctly) sort of automates some bits of what recover-session does? I can't really remember much demand for something like this in Emacs, since there are already other packages like desktop that's meant for this, so I'm not sure it makes sense to add something like recover-buffers to Emacs. 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The actual bug report here is that the description of what "recover-buffers" does is vaguely wrong. I reported it because I came across people who thought it was supposed to do more. -- If this were a real .signature, it would suck less. Well, maybe not. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Mar 22 09:03:12 2022 Received: (at 889) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Mar 2022 13:03:12 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39315 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nWeAK-0004B6-M5 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 22 Mar 2022 09:03:12 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:46000) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nWeAJ-0004Au-P0 for 889@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 22 Mar 2022 09:03:12 -0400 Received: from [2001:470:142:3::e] (port=36968 helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nWeAE-0008Od-1G; Tue, 22 Mar 2022 09:03:06 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=54AU1htHq7bjeYH6i8QXSTYJmeCsZ4eZhYlNUvfl9Eg=; b=XEZFMocfp/z5whgz0mcg ZRPSfrHag+foQ/jto1TbndReFHCd/IAHU2bHMZ2yHv/cvq38lG5LUHzRNQBjPfB0oYg4hNtHJ0XF3 PQFEWiFCFgzvqO+g3/ehJd8gK/yyh/AXp0HjBaJ2dacjlf9JFyLIrl7HGIZf9wITYzhFGBQrDM4qw A4CKGhdvrxAVBtlLdjrYfI609wgsnezF2WZce/PwEzJT5p0Vb7DxhQBUICn11b6BMRBbPaWivkG42 Dh4YtKXpqlCpvJNKLDCJi5rRgbbVmPcmzYQinq0g/2tb2X1b66TDINy2HAwUPu745/2ikpzvnlbLg aHIZIACX8AKBig==; Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=1903 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nWeAD-0002Tu-DK; Tue, 22 Mar 2022 09:03:05 -0400 Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2022 15:02:51 +0200 Message-Id: <838rt2f8ck.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: era In-Reply-To: (message from era on Tue, 22 Mar 2022 07:09:54 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#889: 23.0.60; "Recover Crashed Session" is misleading References: <200809041628.m84GSq7p018120@bell.apicom.com> <1312631770.8034.2160131893@webmail.messagingengine.com> <87wnhpr60a.fsf_-_@gnus.org> <87lex3p36s.fsf@gnus.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 889 Cc: 889@debbugs.gnu.org, larsi@gnus.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2022 07:09:54 +0200 > From: era > Cc: 889@debbugs.gnu.org > > On Mon, Mar 21, 2022, at 20:31, Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: > > Nobody had an opinion here in a month, so I'm closing this as a "wontfix". > > The actual bug report here is that the description of what "recover-buffers" does is vaguely wrong. > > I reported it because I came across people who thought it was supposed to do more. The current doc string says: Recover auto save files from a previous Emacs session. This command first displays a Dired buffer showing you the previous sessions that you could recover from. To choose one, move point to the proper line and then type C-c C-c. Then you’ll be asked about a number of files to recover. This is quite descriptive, IMO, but if you can point out where are the potentially confusing parts, maybe we could make it even better. For example, if we reword the first sentence like this: Recover your edits saved in auto-save files by previous Emacs sessions. will the doc string be less confusing? Any other suggestions? Thanks. From unknown Mon Jun 16 23:47:37 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. 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