From unknown Sat Jun 21 10:29:38 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#8868 <8868@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#8868 <8868@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: 24.0.50; Scroll bar in the minibuffer Reply-To: bug#8868 <8868@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2025 17:29:38 +0000 retitle 8868 24.0.50; Scroll bar in the minibuffer reassign 8868 emacs submitter 8868 Dani Moncayo severity 8868 wishlist tag 8868 fixed thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jun 15 10:06:35 2011 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Jun 2011 14:06:35 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QWqjq-0004v5-JJ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 10:06:34 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QWqjo-0004ut-Dd for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 10:06:33 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QWqjh-0007ci-VQ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 10:06:26 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW, RFC_ABUSE_POST, T_DKIM_INVALID, T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.1 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]:60428) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QWqjh-0007cG-MR for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 10:06:25 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:60184) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QWqjf-0005I2-QC for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 10:06:24 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QWqjX-0007a9-HG for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 10:06:23 -0400 Received: from mail-yw0-f41.google.com ([209.85.213.41]:46004) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QWqjX-0007Yg-1U for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 10:06:15 -0400 Received: by ywb26 with SMTP id 26so356532ywb.0 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 07:06:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=ANio65Sg7UR7bL3wI/T85WvrUAbzFtk+wxQE2gTlTlc=; b=Q2vDt0XTY5k8i5R6YicTAGUp0iVB2D7repuQGh069iE2r7IkFSFmr/rC2HQgCSFuyJ Ku4h7+5SzwvkxAu0HHXOAubkdbpNsAgNzQn6n7RHQSsx9QAIkquS8Lh3pNU2+evv4oYD OMYqWPfhSPwwfS9QkPN9hKfBIQiAyEUtFf1BM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=fg8E6p2HlbYhlPBd78ICVcKnyxFGSmRP2hFX4Y7knwMzDO5e67KeVgqkJ/BRFMS22J aJog0xZR00WYdubGmPSowbJqqtMXFHCRBEWL89nHS8KMgfgSsy/iECAEhfKX7x9cvnFZ ZKVp7fBsxc4yeYsd5a5ZXT6jH5wiSrxpUsi3Q= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.91.47.23 with SMTP id z23mr827323agj.181.1308146773781; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 07:06:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.105.17 with HTTP; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 07:06:13 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 16:06:13 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: 24.0.50; Scroll bar in the minibuffer From: Dani Moncayo To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.17 X-Spam-Score: -4.9 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.9 (----) Severity: wishlist What is the point of having a vertical scroll bar in the minibuffer? How often is the minibuffer high enough to need it? I see it as something useless, aesthetically awful, a waste of horizontal space in the minibuffer. Thus, I'd like to suggest either to remove it, or, if someone sees a reason to keep it, control its visibility with its own variable/command (different from `scroll-bar-mode'). In GNU Emacs 24.0.50.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) of 2011-06-07 on 3249CTO Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600 configured using `configure --with-gcc (4.5) --no-opt --cflags -Ic:/build/include' -- Dani Moncayo From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jun 15 12:27:08 2011 Received: (at 8868) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Jun 2011 16:27:08 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QWsvs-00086P-9e for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 12:27:08 -0400 Received: from smtprelay-h22.telenor.se ([195.54.99.197]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QWsvq-00085q-Da for 8868@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 12:27:07 -0400 Received: from ipb3.telenor.se (ipb3.telenor.se [195.54.127.166]) by smtprelay-h22.telenor.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BEE8EADA8 for <8868@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 18:27:00 +0200 (CEST) X-SENDER-IP: [85.225.45.100] X-LISTENER: [smtp.bredband.net] X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AotqAI/c+E1V4S1kPGdsb2JhbABSiRGdQwsBAQEBNzKIdb9khiYElimLFw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.65,370,1304287200"; d="scan'208";a="21496225" Received: from c-642de155.25-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se (HELO coolsville.localdomain) ([85.225.45.100]) by ipb3.telenor.se with ESMTP; 15 Jun 2011 18:26:59 +0200 Received: from [172.20.199.13] (zeplin [172.20.199.13]) by coolsville.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3D4807FA05A; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 18:26:59 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4DF8DD53.1010904@swipnet.se> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 18:26:59 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jan_Dj=E4rv?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; sv-SE; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dani Moncayo Subject: Re: bug#8868: 24.0.50; Scroll bar in the minibuffer References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 8868 Cc: 8868@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) Hi. FWIW, the minibuffer scrollbar usually isn't shown in the Gtk+ port as there isn't room for it. I have never missed it. Jan D. Dani Moncayo skrev 2011-06-15 16.06: > Severity: wishlist > > What is the point of having a vertical scroll bar in the minibuffer? > How often is the minibuffer high enough to need it? > > I see it as something useless, aesthetically awful, a waste of > horizontal space in the minibuffer. > > Thus, I'd like to suggest either to remove it, or, if someone sees a > reason to keep it, control its visibility with its own > variable/command (different from `scroll-bar-mode'). > > > In GNU Emacs 24.0.50.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) > of 2011-06-07 on 3249CTO > Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600 > configured using `configure --with-gcc (4.5) --no-opt --cflags > -Ic:/build/include' > From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Oct 06 16:37:26 2011 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Oct 2011 20:37:26 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RBuh4-0006g7-14 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; 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Scroll bar in the minibuffer To: Dani Moncayo , 8868@debbugs.gnu.org References: From: martin rudalics Message-ID: Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2019 10:54:30 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: de-DE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:VSNJV/gDb57LyIhdoeUs+qzOGPiFy0Yyvu4CWPYKeRNZ0LYgehH 3ltsxSA1sTT5Edr1QYFZhnu/fJyBCFVquppOQpyZ7W3DkQ4l4W5hzT/kFxA4fKw5Irxvf56 0/FkFZFtI2Yn5m+xKpOhXf/7Ycjj//bBdIq/m78TvctJT20wQAQYj0W9/aqmPlB8DctOnCM 6l5yP14HFT4A6lKKYCe5g== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:1UbPp8NZtiA=:Uoe2Hkaj6VSQ4i2Rc/+GMP KH8XoYA7/uplRAyInOX49zL31KGlQayp7asEhQHIeUnbnj6709MiyfEEF/k9rlT+O2HRsd+ni M4GOxqGWux44Yfohw5myv41Pwldh4Z87f0v9jjzT56gUKqJR7SNS+6HL4vPtLDnf9/+x8Bflw dZjOtccS3iTqQi0VIAdB5L+EIqgEgjiR+g/xd8iu2YMjwBENX+XwoFgy9eN6YhcJCOMe++nuj 63MPTVm+A8uOmsAtXB3K10VnHJojkfGsV27PzUJk4zZR899f1o7lx1HFFltiMR7bxxz4Tw6ef 09BpXZnniFkSjQl74gkd6XU59QOLMr4cqgfpqqcpHIaLX9pNd/AMWcGI1Ny+P8uTUcGSs27bJ DJs2AbiUsBp3n6HFPdS86CtumEE1WN4lDF8RAKWc335UV+rDc/6pGiLhyRVj5wOKUGOncL2lj ThGo1y+WSKy7eaj5MC/F5t8KaYj9986E+U1Z5hO4UtmtR3p4Q1UKhFwa1ItsSULV4JVdfnwH4 N3ZvSUlyJeLl6A/000uzuhBlWCbXn3nCafyyPgapRDTKCHnzvkSQW++S65IEtR5iG34v8Aml1 a+Bzt5P4STmJgjQs7/bCmpplrEZs8xG0twDmKPBWUe1saThUIiyoEALDbWj9qZ5ijRvLx1MWf Pjaaa7ZOctj/AHB/DbePhg6O2J1hSVK288EK+vDPoeUMuZAAc5GcGe/rBFJ9+J5kWRGaEdxoC Z0lhFIxWZITWjFaFJxVJ4Jd6zXOsfijPqcvtRRCv74tB7/xHU9hgE3WCREiMOVW0Z3UvvEA5j iVg1OYe64KVc30V0xEYjail8eGDto6SnmxZObsIt1Np0iR+Vt5Z3akaU79oS7NQQA7Ro9pG2u Gf3/YNy5A8ltq/I/AZ8bjraYMXmCo5elt8ntht0hWWGxdfy/ZutR4fovFZsduVz7lJXauVBu7 F4ICoYjYDFfS5hWOnaiqf1q+dTYGxKkqlUqsNet2VOPiy6emRbniRpcGmHpLe1epP60A8XS6S PsE0525efMEPCfgh3un2mCymdOqzCvmPwcx5NoAVG93zbjsBx5WAMPLwIV3M2q74yuoHTaRg9 +qGuMEFB4dUraA= X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 8868 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) tags 8868 fixed close 8868 27.1 quit > What is the point of having a vertical scroll bar in the minibuffer? > How often is the minibuffer high enough to need it? > > I see it as something useless, aesthetically awful, a waste of > horizontal space in the minibuffer. > > Thus, I'd like to suggest either to remove it, or, if someone sees a > reason to keep it, control its visibility with its own > variable/command (different from `scroll-bar-mode'). It's now possible to do the latter reliably by adding the following form (add-hook 'after-make-frame-functions (lambda (frame) (set-window-scroll-bars (minibuffer-window frame) 0 nil 0 nil t))) to the early init file. I added a corresponding example to the Elisp manual and mark this bug as done. Thanks, martin From unknown Sat Jun 21 10:29:38 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2019 11:24:05 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator