From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jun 01 01:41:49 2011 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Jun 2011 05:41:50 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QReBg-0007UK-Ut for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 01 Jun 2011 01:41:49 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QReBd-0007U4-96 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 01 Jun 2011 01:41:46 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QReBV-0004Zy-TO for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 01 Jun 2011 01:41:39 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW, RFC_ABUSE_POST, T_DKIM_INVALID, T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.1 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]:39400) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QReBV-0004Zt-KH for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 01 Jun 2011 01:41:37 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:57007) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QReBT-0006MB-Mo for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Jun 2011 01:41:37 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QReBM-0004Ym-It for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Jun 2011 01:41:35 -0400 Received: from mail-wy0-f169.google.com ([74.125.82.169]:59903) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QReBM-0004YQ-0D for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Jun 2011 01:41:28 -0400 Received: by wyf19 with SMTP id 19so4732680wyf.0 for ; Tue, 31 May 2011 22:41:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:from:to:subject:date:message-id:user-agent :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=kiR/UyGlx6ecFdeNuuVGJGqr2rg7QVVXTPNG5Q2YNTw=; b=gAqNz3ARzJsZwQzGRdr6epu+RGeT0fx5m97fO2fCelx3HhjhvXTlAiVQFp1f5AZdZJ krFq7+l0KsW0JWcpLQYLTI9t7dWvhAarwEPuQygjvl5vXX94dBc80pqe6FLvLJMQeT21 zkq4iisea+XTewcnIpqPbx5LUDQa//cq1bNGs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:user-agent:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=cgTIzPhP8RkEuesyPOB9vX7+n+CK91Q8hFsIElyPlPTPsuQ7cM7PsR/KdFvI9c5AVr pSn78BRHwEO6AQhYL7aVAeXxlgHSOJdEWT/NRe3QGoEe3eSYHlebC2CJbrE/Im2gRqBb 3sQzFhgza9NWiMEOC2NbILQtcigrhO5947j8Y= Received: by 10.216.68.18 with SMTP id k18mr1047328wed.109.1306906885973; Tue, 31 May 2011 22:41:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from thierry-MM061 (65.77.197.77.rev.sfr.net [77.197.77.65]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 77sm409023wet.9.2011.05.31.22.41.20 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 31 May 2011 22:41:23 -0700 (PDT) From: thierry To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 24.0.50; save-buffers-kill-terminal called with two args? Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2011 07:41:06 +0200 Message-ID: <87d3iym7m5.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.17 X-Spam-Score: -5.4 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -5.4 (-----) Hi all, sometimes, when i quit emacs i have: save-buffers-kill-emacs: Timed out waiting for reply from selection owner Can't reproduce at every time, but many times during last 2 days. M-x debug-on-entry RET save-buffers-kill-emacs =3D> Debugger entered--entering a function: save-buffers-kill-emacs(nil) * save-buffers-kill-terminal(nil) call-interactively(save-buffers-kill-terminal nil nil) This show error at everytime in emacs -Q In GNU Emacs 24.0.50.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, X toolkit, Xaw3d scroll bars) of 2011-05-31 on thierry-MM061 Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.11001000 configured using `configure '--with-x-toolkit=3Dlucid'' Important settings: value of $LC_ALL: nil value of $LC_COLLATE: nil value of $LC_CTYPE: nil value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil value of $LC_MONETARY: nil value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil value of $LC_TIME: nil value of $LANG: fr_FR.utf8 value of $XMODIFIERS: nil locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix default enable-multibyte-characters: t Major mode: Lisp Interaction Minor modes in effect: TeX-PDF-mode: t eldoc-mode: t minibuffer-depth-indicate-mode: t auto-image-file-mode: t show-paren-mode: t display-time-mode: t diff-auto-refine-mode: t recentf-mode: t savehist-mode: t shell-dirtrack-mode: t tooltip-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t column-number-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Recent input: =20 =20 =20 C-h f =20 C-x C-=C2=B2 C-e SPC n i l ) =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 C-SPC C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n M-w M-x=20 r e p o Recent messages: Local value of py-indent-offset set to 2 Using the CPython shell Restoring buffers...91% OVERVIEW Restoring buffers...93% OVERVIEW Restoring buffers...done Type C-x 1 to delete the help window. Mark set Load-path shadows: ~/elisp/ngnus/lisp/.dir-locals hides ~/elisp/org-active/.dir-locals ~/elisp/ngnus/lisp/lpath hides ~/elisp/emacs-wget/lpath ~/elisp/AC/popup hides ~/elisp/popup ~/elisp/ngnus/lisp/password-cache hides /usr/local/share/emacs/24.0.50/lisp= /password-cache ~/elisp/ngnus/lisp/format-spec hides /usr/local/share/emacs/24.0.50/lisp/fo= rmat-spec ~/elisp/ngnus/lisp/color hides /usr/local/share/emacs/24.0.50/lisp/color ~/elisp/ngnus/lisp/md4 hides /usr/local/share/emacs/24.0.50/lisp/md4 ~/elisp/ngnus/lisp/hex-util hides /usr/local/share/emacs/24.0.50/lisp/hex-u= til ~/elisp/ngnus/lisp/dns-mode hides /usr/local/share/emacs/24.0.50/lisp/textm= odes/dns-mode ~/elisp/ngnus/lisp/imap hides /usr/local/share/emacs/24.0.50/lisp/net/imap ~/elisp/ngnus/lisp/hmac-md5 hides /usr/local/share/emacs/24.0.50/lisp/net/h= mac-md5 ~/elisp/ngnus/lisp/dig hides /usr/local/share/emacs/24.0.50/lisp/net/dig ~/elisp/ngnus/lisp/sasl hides /usr/local/share/emacs/24.0.50/lisp/net/sasl ~/elisp/ngnus/lisp/sasl-cram hides /usr/local/share/emacs/24.0.50/lisp/net/= sasl-cram ~/elisp/ngnus/lisp/sasl-digest hides /usr/local/share/emacs/24.0.50/lisp/ne= t/sasl-digest ~/elisp/ngnus/lisp/tls hides /usr/local/share/emacs/24.0.50/lisp/net/tls ~/elisp/ngnus/lisp/dns hides /usr/local/share/emacs/24.0.50/lisp/net/dns ~/elisp/ngnus/lisp/hmac-def hides /usr/local/share/emacs/24.0.50/lisp/net/h= mac-def ~/elisp/ngnus/lisp/netrc hides /usr/local/share/emacs/24.0.50/lisp/net/netrc ~/elisp/ngnus/lisp/ntlm hides /usr/local/share/emacs/24.0.50/lisp/net/ntlm ~/elisp/ngnus/lisp/sasl-ntlm hides /usr/local/share/emacs/24.0.50/lisp/net/= sasl-ntlm ~/elisp/ngnus/lisp/binhex hides /usr/local/share/emacs/24.0.50/lisp/mail/bi= nhex ~/elisp/ngnus/lisp/hashcash hides /usr/local/share/emacs/24.0.50/lisp/mail/= hashcash ~/elisp/ngnus/lisp/uudecode hides /usr/local/share/emacs/24.0.50/lisp/mail/= uudecode ~/elisp/ngnus/lisp/parse-time hides /usr/local/share/emacs/24.0.50/lisp/cal= endar/parse-time ~/elisp/ngnus/lisp/time-date hides /usr/local/share/emacs/24.0.50/lisp/cale= ndar/time-date ~/elisp/ngnus/lisp/pgg-parse hides /usr/local/share/emacs/24.0.50/lisp/obso= lete/pgg-parse ~/elisp/ngnus/lisp/pgg hides /usr/local/share/emacs/24.0.50/lisp/obsolete/p= gg ~/elisp/ngnus/lisp/pgg-pgp5 hides /usr/local/share/emacs/24.0.50/lisp/obsol= ete/pgg-pgp5 ~/elisp/ngnus/lisp/pgg-pgp hides /usr/local/share/emacs/24.0.50/lisp/obsole= te/pgg-pgp ~/elisp/ngnus/lisp/pgg-def hides /usr/local/share/emacs/24.0.50/lisp/obsole= te/pgg-def ~/elisp/ngnus/lisp/pgg-gpg hides /usr/local/share/emacs/24.0.50/lisp/obsole= te/pgg-gpg Features: (shadow gnus-cite gnus-dired mail-extr gnus-msg emacsbug help-mode view sh-script vc-rcs lua-mode vc-bzr bzr-dvc bzr conf-mode preview prv-emacs tex-buf reftex-vcr reftex-dcr reftex-auc reftex imenu reftex-vars font-latex latex tex-style tex latexenc vc-git xgit-dvc xgit xgit-annotate dvc-annotate xgit-log xhg-dvc xhg xhg-annotate xhg-mq xhg-log anything-esh em-unix em-script em-prompt em-ls em-hist em-pred em-glob em-dirs em-cmpl em-basic esh-opt em-banner em-alias esh-var esh-io esh-cmd esh-ext esh-proc esh-groups eshell esh-module esh-mode bzr-core xdarcs-core xgit-core xhg-core xmtn-minimal tla smerge-mode newcomment dvc-state dvc-config dvc-diff dvc-fileinfo diff dvc-cmenu dvc-about dvc-version dvc-revlist uniquify align-let server googlecl google-maps google-maps-static google-maps-geocode google-maps-base json simple-call-tree el-expectations el-mock csv2org iedit zop-to-char mule-util elscreen smallurl mm-url xml-weather rectangle-utils tv-utils eldoc-eval eldoc pcvs pcvs-parse pcvs-info pcvs-defs auto-document autodoc mb-depth ioccur moz cl-info slime-xref-browser slime-banner slime-tramp slime-asdf slime-fancy slime-fontifying-fu slime-package-fu slime-references slime-scratch slime-presentations slime-fuzzy slime-fancy-inspector slime-c-p-c slime-editing-commands slime-autodoc slime-parse slime-repl slime apropos hideshow hyperspec slime-autoloads boxquote rect image-file newsticker newst-treeview newst-plainview newst-reader newst-ticker newst-backend ledger-config ledger esh-arg esh-util lpr woman man two-column em-term term ehelp electric esh-toggle em-xtra flymake pdbtrack no-word regex-tool whitespace paren time dired-tar dired-extension image-dired yaoddmuse skeleton sgml-mode emms-mplayer-config emms-playlist-limit emms-volume emms-volume-amixer emms-i18n emms-history emms-score emms-stream-info emms-metaplaylist-mode emms-bookmarks emms-lastfm-client parse-time emms-cue emms-mode-line-icon emms-browser sort emms-playlist-sort emms-last-played emms-player-xine emms-player-mpd tq emms-playing-time emms-lyrics emms-url hl-line emms-tag-editor emms-mark emms-mode-line emms-cache emms-info-ogginfo emms-info-mp3info emms-playlist-mode emms-player-vlc emms-player-mplayer emms-info emms-streams later-do emms-source-playlist emms-source-file emms-player-simple emms-setup emms emms-compat winner dvc-init bzr-gnus tla-gnus xgit-gnus xhg-gnus gnus-art mm-uu mml2015 mm-view mml-smime smime dig nnir gnus-sum nnoo gnus-group gnus-undo nnmail mail-source gnus-start gnus-spec gnus-int gnus-range gnus-win gnus gnus-ems nnheader dvc-gnus tla-core tla-autoconf tla-defs dvc-log vc vc-dispatcher dvc-unified dvc-tips dired-x ediff-merg ediff-diff ediff-wind ediff-help ediff-util ediff-mult ediff-init ediff dvc-autoloads dvc-core dvc-lisp dvc-buffers dvc-ui dvc-register dvc-utils dvc-emacs ewoc dvc-defs dvc-site psvn log-edit pcvs-util add-log diff-mode htmlize-hack htmlize muse-colors muse-docbook muse-texinfo texnfo-upd texinfo muse-latex muse-html muse-xml-common muse-wiki cus-edit cus-start cus-load muse-publish muse-project muse-protocols muse-regexps muse muse-nested-tags muse-mode muse-autoloads org-config-thierry org-crypt cal-china lunar solar cal-dst cal-bahai cal-islam cal-hebrew holidays hol-loaddefs vc-hg org-wl org-w3m org-vm org-rmail org-mhe org-mew org-irc org-jsinfo org-infojs org-html org-exp ob-exp org-exp-blocks org-info org-gnus org-docview org-bibtex bibtex org-bbdb org-agenda appt diary-lib diary-loaddefs org-annotation-helper org-capture org-mks remember org-remember org-datetree config-w3m mime-w3m w3m doc-view jka-compr image-mode timezone w3m-hist w3m-fb w3m-ems w3m-ccl ccl w3m-favicon w3m-image w3m-proc w3m-util mime eword-decode mel path-util mime-parse std11 luna mime-def alist mcharset mcs-20 mcs-e20 pces pces-e20 pces-20 broken pcustom poe pym static apel-ver product w3m-load addressbook-bookmark message sendmail rfc822 mml mml-sec mm-decode mm-bodies mm-encode mail-parse rfc2231 rfc2047 rfc2045 ietf-drums mailabbrev mail-utils gmm-utils mailheader firefox-protocol bookmark-firefox-handler url url-proxy url-privacy url-expand url-methods url-history url-cookie url-util url-parse url-vars mailcap bookmark-extensions org ob-emacs-lisp ob-tangle ob-ref ob-lob ob-table org-footnote org-src ob-comint ob-keys ob ob-eval org-pcomplete pcomplete org-list org-faces org-compat org-entities org-macs noutline outline cal-menu calendar cal-loaddefs bookmark pp recentf tree-widget wid-edit savehist init-anything-thierry descbinds-anything anything-ipython ipython python-mode info-look ansi-color executable shell shell-history anything-complete anything-show-completion anything-obsolete anything-match-plugin anything-delicious xml anything-mercurial anything-config browse-url rx grep compile comint ring tramp tramp-compat format-spec tramp-loaddefs dired-aux ffap thingatpt anything warnings epa-file epa derived epg epg-config auth-source eieio byte-opt bytecomp byte-compile cconv macroexp assoc gnus-util time-date mm-util mail-prsvr password-cache dired regexp-opt gnus-load usage-memo punycode idna naquadah-theme eev-thierry edmacro kmacro iterator eev-all eev-mini-steps eev-browse-url eev-langs eev-compose eev-glyphs disp-table eev-insert eev-steps eev-bounded eev easy-mmode advice help-fns advice-preload w3m-wget preview-latex tex-site auto-loads info easymenu cl tooltip ediff-hook vc-hooks lisp-float-type mwheel x-win x-dnd tool-bar dnd fontset image fringe lisp-mode register page menu-bar rfn-eshadow timer select scroll-bar mouse jit-lock font-lock syntax facemenu font-core frame cham georgian utf-8-lang misc-lang vietnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao korean japanese hebrew greek romanian slovak czech european ethiopic indian cyrillic chinese case-table epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook help simple abbrev minibuffer loaddefs button faces cus-face files text-properties overlay sha1 md5 base64 format env code-pages mule custom widget hashtable-print-readable backquote make-network-process dbusbind dynamic-setting font-render-setting x-toolkit x multi-tty emacs) --=20 A+ Thierry Get my Gnupg key: gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys 59F29997=20 From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jun 01 03:29:44 2011 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Jun 2011 07:29:44 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QRfs8-0001Qr-6l for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 01 Jun 2011 03:29:44 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QRfs6-0001Qg-BN for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 01 Jun 2011 03:29:42 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QRfs0-0007Va-W4 for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 01 Jun 2011 03:29:37 -0400 Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2011 03:29:36 -0400 Message-Id: Subject: control message for bug 8779 To: X-Mailer: mail (GNU Mailutils 2.1) From: Glenn Morris X-Spam-Score: -6.3 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.3 (------) merge 8760 8779 From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jun 01 23:26:45 2011 Received: (at 8779) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Jun 2011 03:26:45 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QRyYX-00080E-D0 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 01 Jun 2011 23:26:45 -0400 Received: from harpegolden.net ([65.99.215.13]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QRyYW-000802-DV for 8779@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 01 Jun 2011 23:26:44 -0400 Received: from [87.198.54.204] (87-198-54-204.ptr.magnet.ie [87.198.54.204]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "David De La Harpe Golden", Issuer "David De La Harpe Golden Personal CA rev 3" (verified OK)) by harpegolden.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A518F68533; Thu, 2 Jun 2011 04:26:37 +0100 (IST) Message-ID: <4DE702EC.3090907@harpegolden.net> Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2011 04:26:36 +0100 From: David De La Harpe Golden User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110510 Icedove/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thierry Subject: Re: bug#8779: 24.0.50; save-buffers-kill-terminal called with two args? References: <87d3iym7m5.fsf@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <87d3iym7m5.fsf@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 8779 Cc: 8779@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) On 01/06/11 06:41, thierry wrote: > Hi all, > sometimes, when i quit emacs i have: > > save-buffers-kill-emacs: Timed out waiting for reply from selection owner > > Can't reproduce at every time, but many times during last Please see bug #8760, it is likely your issue too: http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=8760 However, you may be running a different desktop environment, so: What desktop environment (KDE, GNOME, XFCE, ...) and what version of it are you using, if any? > M-x debug-on-entry RET save-buffers-kill-emacs Your subject line may stem from a misinterpretation of the debugger output (the call-interactively bit is the showing three args to call-interactively, one of which is save-buffers-kill-terminal, not two args to save-buffers-kill-terminal)? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jun 02 00:52:11 2011 Received: (at 8779) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Jun 2011 04:52:11 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QRztC-0001Vm-Mc for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 02 Jun 2011 00:52:11 -0400 Received: from mail-wy0-f172.google.com ([74.125.82.172]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QRztB-0001Vb-1X for 8779@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 02 Jun 2011 00:52:09 -0400 Received: by wyb29 with SMTP id 29so341488wyb.3 for <8779@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 01 Jun 2011 21:52:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to :message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=y5xQ+p8OG2yXrGlwrxppy4g65SKM4F6uqZDQ9KMmXPo=; b=mMKOPshkczn/mP20QH/g+cYRxSdBALba25PHy/qW/Mmn0TcIFmPVo9JhNxASL9BQic bpxfAoz1YaB+bBSJoP4TBPG0kgXRzoiKIy2B4JV12Uc+N7zqQr0KYunDSG+7FAYXAxmH A8oOxiLob0GWVLd2mCKG+kPwazYEi62hbiDIU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type; b=oYtHXESJG7wI0L1HQIE67PRi5J2KBlSQ4F0auP2xBgBpw8t3wux8IVwzS5bXU24xIF rvByydUsEQ2FDsde5sTlo7fsxz9jpSaClCulJJWtd4J6VUQrV8vEPqlrgJt+AAVHGiR4 wSOXLxR80OKJQU16SPz3GyZad+LnekgRXUsTk= Received: by 10.227.164.199 with SMTP id f7mr253496wby.70.1306990323220; Wed, 01 Jun 2011 21:52:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from thierry-MM061 (65.77.197.77.rev.sfr.net [77.197.77.65]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id gb6sm136826wbb.17.2011.06.01.21.52.00 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 01 Jun 2011 21:52:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Thierry Volpiatto To: David De La Harpe Golden Subject: Re: bug#8779: 24.0.50; save-buffers-kill-terminal called with two args? References: <87d3iym7m5.fsf@gmail.com> <4DE702EC.3090907@harpegolden.net> Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2011 06:51:58 +0200 In-Reply-To: <4DE702EC.3090907@harpegolden.net> (David De La Harpe Golden's message of "Thu, 02 Jun 2011 04:26:36 +0100") Message-ID: <87zkm0omxd.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 8779 Cc: 8779@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) David De La Harpe Golden writes: > On 01/06/11 06:41, thierry wrote: >> Hi all, >> sometimes, when i quit emacs i have: >> >> save-buffers-kill-emacs: Timed out waiting for reply from selection owner >> >> Can't reproduce at every time, but many times during last > > > Please see bug #8760, it is likely your issue too: > http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=8760 Yes it is the same. > However, you may be running a different desktop environment, so: What > desktop environment (KDE, GNOME, XFCE, ...) and what version of it are > you using, if any? GNOME 2.32.1 >> M-x debug-on-entry RET save-buffers-kill-emacs > > Your subject line may stem from a misinterpretation of the debugger > output (the call-interactively bit is the showing three args to > call-interactively, one of which is save-buffers-kill-terminal, not > two args to save-buffers-kill-terminal)? yes right. -- A+ Thierry Get my Gnupg key: gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys 59F29997 From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jun 02 20:34:50 2011 Received: (at 8779) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Jun 2011 00:34:50 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QSILh-0007GX-Nq for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 02 Jun 2011 20:34:50 -0400 Received: from harpegolden.net ([65.99.215.13]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QSILf-0007GK-Kp for 8779@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 02 Jun 2011 20:34:48 -0400 Received: from [87.198.47.56] (87-198-47-56.ptr.magnet.ie [87.198.47.56]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "David De La Harpe Golden", Issuer "David De La Harpe Golden Personal CA rev 3" (verified OK)) by harpegolden.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D288668533; Fri, 3 Jun 2011 01:34:39 +0100 (IST) Message-ID: <4DE82C1E.1000907@harpegolden.net> Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2011 01:34:38 +0100 From: David De La Harpe Golden User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110510 Icedove/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Thierry Volpiatto Subject: Re: bug#8779: 24.0.50; clipboard manager problem on gnome? References: <87d3iym7m5.fsf@gmail.com> <4DE702EC.3090907@harpegolden.net> <87zkm0omxd.fsf@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <87zkm0omxd.fsf@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 8779 Cc: 8779@debbugs.gnu.org, Chong Yidong X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) On 02/06/11 05:51, Thierry Volpiatto wrote: > David De La Harpe Golden writes: >> Please see bug #8760, it is likely your issue too: >> http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=8760 > Yes it is the same. > >> However, you may be running a different desktop environment, so: What >> desktop environment (KDE, GNOME, XFCE, ...) and what version of it are >> you using, if any? > GNOME 2.32.1 Erk. Gnome hasn't shown problems previously, at least not with its normal builtin clipboard manager (in gnome-settings-daemon). The way xfce fixed their problems was by basing their new clipboard manager on gnome's! However, I do not see any problem with gnome 2.30.2 on my system. I don't know what gnome version Chong Yidong was testing with. Just in case: Are you running anything else "clipboard related" on your system? Say an alternative/extended clipboard history (may show up as a little clipboard icon in your system tray). From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jun 03 02:42:07 2011 Received: (at 8779) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Jun 2011 06:42:07 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QSO58-0000L5-KV for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 03 Jun 2011 02:42:06 -0400 Received: from mail-wy0-f172.google.com ([74.125.82.172]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QSO56-0000KW-9a for 8779@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 03 Jun 2011 02:42:05 -0400 Received: by wyb29 with SMTP id 29so1203895wyb.3 for <8779@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 02 Jun 2011 23:41:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to :message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=7LO4QLFn5Lkg46je2hTtyeOYAouuhLoW2JuW4SUice4=; b=tNVC8i6/f6GNscTT/ZPiQ0mVpXu9tPUCBwRfCNItXt4OF3I1a5ZBmiN9SBI/CcG/mr rvxCgXkVV+yH19c/ILMs30FJXF6YUQ6mwW+hxPmATC5ktczJRtK19gYngZPW3n9OUkta PIorCGebGcPDq34RvDJjsqluA0NWrvP8dGzgE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type; b=ODktpwJHlEIwUwJCM3Ip1fSS09Pl57wEkUpLL1EWuHJcrn0TZSK0mAnYzS4WZRREqc +eVr+TSLSFteLc+hGql7+B+YkoywRtQkKM8gcpIwyjbP/0ciOMcJtJIgfZDfMjeF5OUJ NMQO3a6Ld/D0BTlwbZdqAp1uF5tI39Z7mxjTA= Received: by 10.216.237.155 with SMTP id y27mr2015174weq.82.1307083316369; Thu, 02 Jun 2011 23:41:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from thierry-MM061 (65.77.197.77.rev.sfr.net [77.197.77.65]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id fw15sm823064wbb.10.2011.06.02.23.41.53 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 02 Jun 2011 23:41:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Thierry Volpiatto To: David De La Harpe Golden Subject: Re: bug#8779: 24.0.50; clipboard manager problem on gnome? References: <87d3iym7m5.fsf@gmail.com> <4DE702EC.3090907@harpegolden.net> <87zkm0omxd.fsf@gmail.com> <4DE82C1E.1000907@harpegolden.net> Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2011 08:41:51 +0200 In-Reply-To: <4DE82C1E.1000907@harpegolden.net> (David De La Harpe Golden's message of "Fri, 03 Jun 2011 01:34:38 +0100") Message-ID: <87wrh3e7rk.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 8779 Cc: 8779@debbugs.gnu.org, Chong Yidong X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) David De La Harpe Golden writes: > On 02/06/11 05:51, Thierry Volpiatto wrote: >> David De La Harpe Golden writes: > >>> Please see bug #8760, it is likely your issue too: >>> http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=8760 >> Yes it is the same. >> >>> However, you may be running a different desktop environment, so: What >>> desktop environment (KDE, GNOME, XFCE, ...) and what version of it are >>> you using, if any? >> GNOME 2.32.1 > > > Erk. Gnome hasn't shown problems previously, at least not with its > normal builtin clipboard manager (in gnome-settings-daemon). The way > xfce fixed their problems was by basing their new clipboard manager on > gnome's! However, I do not see any problem with gnome 2.30.2 on my > system. I don't know what gnome version Chong Yidong was testing > with. > > Just in case: Are you running anything else "clipboard related" on > your system? Say an alternative/extended clipboard history (may show > up as a little clipboard icon in your system tray). AFAIK no. After updating Emacs, i didn't have this message anymore, but emacs is slow to quit. On an emacs -Q, debug-on-entry on save-buffers-kill-emacs show always same error. Also, i am using ubuntu 11.04. -- A+ Thierry Get my Gnupg key: gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys 59F29997 From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jun 03 22:38:25 2011 Received: (at 8779) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Jun 2011 02:38:25 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QSgkr-0004Jg-7o for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 03 Jun 2011 22:38:25 -0400 Received: from harpegolden.net ([65.99.215.13]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QSgko-0004JT-0E for 8779@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 03 Jun 2011 22:38:22 -0400 Received: from [87.198.47.58] (87-198-47-58.ptr.magnet.ie [87.198.47.58]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "David De La Harpe Golden", Issuer "David De La Harpe Golden Personal CA rev 3" (verified OK)) by harpegolden.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 984BC6849F; Sat, 4 Jun 2011 03:38:15 +0100 (IST) Message-ID: <4DE99A96.8020402@harpegolden.net> Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2011 03:38:14 +0100 From: David De La Harpe Golden User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110510 Icedove/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Thierry Volpiatto Subject: Re: bug#8779: 24.0.50; clipboard manager problem on gnome? References: <87d3iym7m5.fsf@gmail.com> <4DE702EC.3090907@harpegolden.net> <87zkm0omxd.fsf@gmail.com> <4DE82C1E.1000907@harpegolden.net> <87wrh3e7rk.fsf@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <87wrh3e7rk.fsf@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 8779 Cc: 8779@debbugs.gnu.org, Chong Yidong X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) On 03/06/11 07:41, Thierry Volpiatto wrote: > After updating Emacs, i didn't have this message anymore, but emacs is > slow to quit. You mean you updated from the bzr trunk, not applied any patches? If so, what bzr revision number? As savannah's been having problems I'm not quite sure I'm running the latest trunk (r104481 in my case), but I don't see any changes that should be relevant - i.e. I don't think the exit-after timeout adjustment as discussed in #8760 has been committed yet. Can you now actually copy in emacs, then close emacs, then paste into other apps the text you copied in emacs? (wondering if you somehow have a strangely "slow" clipboard manager that minor fluctuations have now brought within your rebuilt emacs' timeout period) Did you logout and in again (i.e. a new gnome session) in the meantime? (might have restarted the daemon emacs is trying to talk to - gnome-settings-daemon in the usual gnome case) > On an emacs -Q, debug-on-entry on save-buffers-kill-emacs show always > same error. What error do you mean? The earlier output you showed was not an error, just a pretty normal call stack, you'd have to step through a fair bit from the entry to save-buffers-kill-emacs before hitting the point where emacs tries to talk to the clipboard manager (and that's in C anyway). From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jun 04 01:32:56 2011 Received: (at 8779) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Jun 2011 05:32:56 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QSjTk-0007z2-5T for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 04 Jun 2011 01:32:56 -0400 Received: from mail-wy0-f172.google.com ([74.125.82.172]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QSjTi-0007yr-Th for 8779@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 04 Jun 2011 01:32:55 -0400 Received: by wyb29 with SMTP id 29so1856107wyb.3 for <8779@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 03 Jun 2011 22:32:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to :message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=B21Nn8S92uZ/npQIci7SYMd/bnc6tSC9i1IcaqYaFv4=; b=DqaP+8suuKT9PR0YwJrgvLoYfHBkBn1ZnVYqXaUwDojojrAyMgzsknfzPhwGgrz/kN q9Xfa/45jLHvVtMKWfPk7iZ1/YyGe5USPuP3dXiM40bs/rooJ8gz0O2u8nKypAXoyIv5 1TCIDyzEZfOWEp8FVoX6k7Y0kKXMs14dPQ7zM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type; b=p7ASBZcLt1lJHZ4LVVCg2wCOVtrFmkW9TXEblEiMXBd+V/zZZe8VixW7X1hYbuUCH4 01zCwfcUGwPw9pCj8MbfG13xmlFtbhXETRDeM00HZOPwlHeVazjjzBiowQsthUpG9uW0 V1DISLpoBAqFoO4YTlNRcG1bHeWzxDisrneoQ= Received: by 10.227.55.139 with SMTP id u11mr2675315wbg.37.1307165568865; Fri, 03 Jun 2011 22:32:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from thierry-MM061 (6.211.85.79.rev.sfr.net [79.85.211.6]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id p21sm1448618wbh.57.2011.06.03.22.32.46 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 03 Jun 2011 22:32:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Thierry Volpiatto To: David De La Harpe Golden Subject: Re: bug#8779: 24.0.50; clipboard manager problem on gnome? References: <87d3iym7m5.fsf@gmail.com> <4DE702EC.3090907@harpegolden.net> <87zkm0omxd.fsf@gmail.com> <4DE82C1E.1000907@harpegolden.net> <87wrh3e7rk.fsf@gmail.com> <4DE99A96.8020402@harpegolden.net> Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2011 07:32:44 +0200 In-Reply-To: <4DE99A96.8020402@harpegolden.net> (David De La Harpe Golden's message of "Sat, 04 Jun 2011 03:38:14 +0100") Message-ID: <87wrh2kvpf.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -4.4 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 8779 Cc: 8779@debbugs.gnu.org, Chong Yidong X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.4 (----) David De La Harpe Golden writes: > On 03/06/11 07:41, Thierry Volpiatto wrote: > >> After updating Emacs, i didn't have this message anymore, but emacs is >> slow to quit. > > You mean you updated from the bzr trunk, not applied any patches? If > so, what bzr revision number? As savannah's been having problems I'm > not quite sure I'm running the latest trunk (r104481 in my case), but > I don't see any changes that should be relevant - i.e. I don't think > the exit-after timeout adjustment as discussed in #8760 has been > committed yet. 104480 > Can you now actually copy in emacs, then close emacs, then paste into > other apps the text you copied in emacs? (wondering if you somehow > have a strangely "slow" clipboard manager that minor fluctuations have > now brought within your rebuilt emacs' timeout period) Yes > Did you logout and in again (i.e. a new gnome session) in the > meantime? (might have restarted the daemon emacs is trying to talk to > - > gnome-settings-daemon in the usual gnome case) Usually i hibernate, but yes i had to logout/in these last days. >> On an emacs -Q, debug-on-entry on save-buffers-kill-emacs show always >> same error. > > What error do you mean? The earlier output you showed was not an > error, just a pretty normal call stack, you'd have to step through a > fair bit from the entry to save-buffers-kill-emacs before hitting the > point where emacs tries to talk to the clipboard manager (and that's > in C anyway). Yes you're right, that's due to the timeout in this case. -- A+ Thierry Get my Gnupg key: gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys 59F29997 From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jun 04 17:05:14 2011 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Jun 2011 21:05:14 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QSy1y-0004KR-8o for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 04 Jun 2011 17:05:14 -0400 Received: from vm-emlprdomr-03.its.yale.edu ([130.132.50.144]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QSy1w-0004KD-SP for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 04 Jun 2011 17:05:13 -0400 Received: from furball ([64.134.101.122]) (authenticated bits=0) by vm-emlprdomr-03.its.yale.edu (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p54L57iY008835 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2011 17:05:07 -0400 Received: by furball (Postfix, from userid 1000) id AEDCF16051D; Sat, 4 Jun 2011 17:05:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Chong Yidong To: control@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: close 8760 Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2011 17:05:06 -0400 Message-ID: <87ipsle29p.fsf@stupidchicken.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.71 on 130.132.50.144 X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) close 8760 thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jun 04 17:11:50 2011 Received: (at 8779) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Jun 2011 21:11:50 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QSy8L-0004TS-N3 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 04 Jun 2011 17:11:49 -0400 Received: from vm-emlprdomr-06.its.yale.edu ([130.132.50.147]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QSy8J-0004TG-QE for 8779@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 04 Jun 2011 17:11:48 -0400 Received: from furball ([64.134.101.122]) (authenticated bits=0) by vm-emlprdomr-06.its.yale.edu (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p54LBfhF016616 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sat, 4 Jun 2011 17:11:42 -0400 Received: by furball (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 7C58016051D; Sat, 4 Jun 2011 17:11:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Chong Yidong To: David De La Harpe Golden Subject: Re: bug#8779: 24.0.50; clipboard manager problem on gnome? References: <87d3iym7m5.fsf@gmail.com> <4DE702EC.3090907@harpegolden.net> <87zkm0omxd.fsf@gmail.com> <4DE82C1E.1000907@harpegolden.net> Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2011 17:11:41 -0400 In-Reply-To: <4DE82C1E.1000907@harpegolden.net> (David De La Harpe Golden's message of "Fri, 03 Jun 2011 01:34:38 +0100") Message-ID: <87r579paia.fsf@stupidchicken.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.71 on 130.132.50.147 X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 8779 Cc: 8779@debbugs.gnu.org, Thierry Volpiatto X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) David De La Harpe Golden writes: >>> However, you may be running a different desktop environment, so: What >>> desktop environment (KDE, GNOME, XFCE, ...) and what version of it are >>> you using, if any? >> GNOME 2.32.1 > > Erk. Gnome hasn't shown problems previously, at least not with its > normal builtin clipboard manager (in gnome-settings-daemon). The way > xfce fixed their problems was by basing their new clipboard manager on > gnome's! However, I do not see any problem with gnome 2.30.2 on my > system. I don't know what gnome version Chong Yidong was testing > with. I'm also testing on 2.30.2. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jun 04 17:19:19 2011 Received: (at 8779) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Jun 2011 21:19:19 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QSyFa-0005Rt-Ua for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 04 Jun 2011 17:19:19 -0400 Received: from vm-emlprdomr-03.its.yale.edu ([130.132.50.144]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QSyFa-0005Ri-91 for 8779@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 04 Jun 2011 17:19:18 -0400 Received: from furball ([64.134.101.122]) (authenticated bits=0) by vm-emlprdomr-03.its.yale.edu (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p54LJCOV011697 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sat, 4 Jun 2011 17:19:13 -0400 Received: by furball (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D96FF16051D; Sat, 4 Jun 2011 17:19:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Chong Yidong To: Thierry Volpiatto Subject: Re: bug#8779: 24.0.50; clipboard manager problem on gnome? References: <87d3iym7m5.fsf@gmail.com> <4DE702EC.3090907@harpegolden.net> <87zkm0omxd.fsf@gmail.com> <4DE82C1E.1000907@harpegolden.net> <87wrh3e7rk.fsf@gmail.com> <4DE99A96.8020402@harpegolden.net> <87wrh2kvpf.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2011 17:19:11 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87wrh2kvpf.fsf@gmail.com> (Thierry Volpiatto's message of "Sat, 04 Jun 2011 07:32:44 +0200") Message-ID: <87k4d1pa5s.fsf@stupidchicken.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.71 on 130.132.50.144 X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 8779 Cc: 8779@debbugs.gnu.org, David De La Harpe Golden X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) Thierry Volpiatto writes: >> Can you now actually copy in emacs, then close emacs, then paste into >> other apps the text you copied in emacs? (wondering if you somehow >> have a strangely "slow" clipboard manager that minor fluctuations have >> now brought within your rebuilt emacs' timeout period) > > Yes Have you noticed any other applications being slow to close? If it's a misbehaving clipboard manager, Emacs should not be the only client affected---but maybe it's waiting longer than most. Also, could you just double check by reducing x-selection-timeout and seeing if it has any effect? (Maybe x_clipboard_manager_save_all should bind x-selection-timeout to a smaller number, at the risk of losing clipboard contents...) From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Jun 05 00:11:47 2011 Received: (at 8779) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Jun 2011 04:11:47 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QT4gl-0000sv-KF for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 05 Jun 2011 00:11:47 -0400 Received: from harpegolden.net ([65.99.215.13]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QT4gj-0000sj-IM for 8779@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 05 Jun 2011 00:11:46 -0400 Received: from [87.198.47.115] (87-198-47-115.ptr.magnet.ie [87.198.47.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "David De La Harpe Golden", Issuer "David De La Harpe Golden Personal CA rev 3" (verified OK)) by harpegolden.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 141E1683AB; Sun, 5 Jun 2011 05:11:38 +0100 (IST) Message-ID: <4DEB01F9.9020408@harpegolden.net> Date: Sun, 05 Jun 2011 05:11:37 +0100 From: David De La Harpe Golden User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110510 Icedove/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Thierry Volpiatto Subject: Re: bug#8779: 24.0.50; clipboard manager problem on gnome? References: <87d3iym7m5.fsf@gmail.com> <4DE702EC.3090907@harpegolden.net> <87zkm0omxd.fsf@gmail.com> <4DE82C1E.1000907@harpegolden.net> <87wrh3e7rk.fsf@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <87wrh3e7rk.fsf@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 8779 Cc: 8779@debbugs.gnu.org, Chong Yidong X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) On 03/06/11 07:41, Thierry Volpiatto wrote: >>> GNOME 2.32.1 > Also, i am using ubuntu 11.04. So I remembered it's the future, and I brought up a fresh install of ubuntu-11.04-desktop-i386 in a kvm vm. Under the "Ubuntu Classic" (i.e. real gnome) session, afraid I can't see the issue. I couldn't test the full "Ubuntu" session (i.e. ubuntu's "Unity" ...thing) as it needs 3d hw. I installed and tested their "Unity 2D" session though, no issue (it still has a normal gnome-settings-daemon running). Which of the above are you using? Probably the first, but just thought I should check - it's still possible that the session I can't currently test does something funny, though I doubt it. So the issue may well be local to your machine and/or caused by some extra thing you have installed. It doesn't seem to be an issue with gnome 2.32.1 in general. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Jun 05 01:52:52 2011 Received: (at 8779) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Jun 2011 05:52:52 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QT6Ga-00031j-CD for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 05 Jun 2011 01:52:52 -0400 Received: from mail-ww0-f46.google.com ([74.125.82.46]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QT6GZ-00031Y-1N for 8779@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 05 Jun 2011 01:52:51 -0400 Received: by wwb28 with SMTP id 28so2719372wwb.15 for <8779@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 04 Jun 2011 22:52:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to :message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=LqS7AFxkT3iZwval+vz0fKC+2dOlimEnAwWWqsgsD4k=; b=iVTs6mPhR1IhAsGSaa0QjFnqUmf7wyjASTtRHRfEzoLl5EMZHvkdMiTVVQ2BaFzdrJ rNJn9OmvGMNJZ619O+aZQ1gT6pAt5Ysjda9TYsfCpOg5v0Llnzr23at32I8O6HqNAzve Y2PrKRecKkF5QosU1nfiEP/ZOPfrdQueNr8FA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type; b=LTwbcIrOO2LCfiCoYehykQ1TpSUc0Go+mr4JzYz13dIcSq402giAA0ax5UsWFnWgjn FVgU8DUevD7ZIln0fdrYxf2zlu9QEA2FjU0P/Z68OW4f/As2JHIyaT5+auDYFiWidjcB 35UYjA3TJOPrs0jrTHp6Pe0Or7z1DXH0MxXnk= Received: by 10.216.229.149 with SMTP id h21mr1071663weq.67.1307253165210; Sat, 04 Jun 2011 22:52:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from thierry-MM061 (48.211.85.79.rev.sfr.net [79.85.211.48]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id fl19sm152286wbb.32.2011.06.04.22.52.42 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 04 Jun 2011 22:52:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Thierry Volpiatto To: David De La Harpe Golden Subject: Re: bug#8779: 24.0.50; clipboard manager problem on gnome? References: <87d3iym7m5.fsf@gmail.com> <4DE702EC.3090907@harpegolden.net> <87zkm0omxd.fsf@gmail.com> <4DE82C1E.1000907@harpegolden.net> <87wrh3e7rk.fsf@gmail.com> <4DEB01F9.9020408@harpegolden.net> Date: Sun, 05 Jun 2011 07:52:35 +0200 In-Reply-To: <4DEB01F9.9020408@harpegolden.net> (David De La Harpe Golden's message of "Sun, 05 Jun 2011 05:11:37 +0100") Message-ID: <87ei389658.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -4.3 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 8779 Cc: 8779@debbugs.gnu.org, Chong Yidong X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.3 (----) David De La Harpe Golden writes: > On 03/06/11 07:41, Thierry Volpiatto wrote: >>>> GNOME 2.32.1 > >> Also, i am using ubuntu 11.04. > > So I remembered it's the future, and I brought up a fresh install of > ubuntu-11.04-desktop-i386 in a kvm vm. > > Under the "Ubuntu Classic" (i.e. real gnome) session, afraid I can't > see the issue. I use this one. > I couldn't test the full "Ubuntu" session (i.e. ubuntu's "Unity" > ...thing) as it needs 3d hw. > > I installed and tested their "Unity 2D" session though, no issue (it > still has a normal gnome-settings-daemon running). > > Which of the above are you using? Probably the first, but just > thought I should check - it's still possible that the session I can't > currently test does something funny, though I doubt it. > > So the issue may well be local to your machine and/or caused by some > extra thing you have installed. It doesn't seem to be an issue with > gnome 2.32.1 in general. Ok thanks, i will try to investigate more as soon as possible. -- A+ Thierry Get my Gnupg key: gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys 59F29997 From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Jun 21 18:00:39 2011 Received: (at 8779) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Jun 2011 22:00:39 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QZ8zv-00007N-1W for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 21 Jun 2011 18:00:39 -0400 Received: from harpegolden.net ([65.99.215.13]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QZ8zs-0008SL-U6 for 8779@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 21 Jun 2011 18:00:37 -0400 Received: from [87.198.54.142] (87-198-54-142.ptr.magnet.ie [87.198.54.142]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "David De La Harpe Golden", Issuer "David De La Harpe Golden Personal CA rev 3" (verified OK)) by harpegolden.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9B50B683CB; Tue, 21 Jun 2011 23:00:30 +0100 (IST) Message-ID: <4E01147D.7010607@harpegolden.net> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 23:00:29 +0100 From: David De La Harpe Golden User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110606 Icedove/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Thierry Volpiatto Subject: Re: bug#8779: 24.0.50; clipboard manager problem on gnome? References: <87d3iym7m5.fsf@gmail.com> <4DE702EC.3090907@harpegolden.net> <87zkm0omxd.fsf@gmail.com> <4DE82C1E.1000907@harpegolden.net> <87wrh3e7rk.fsf@gmail.com> <4DEB01F9.9020408@harpegolden.net> <87ei389658.fsf@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <87ei389658.fsf@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 8779 Cc: 8779@debbugs.gnu.org, Chong Yidong X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) On 05/06/11 06:52, Thierry Volpiatto wrote: > David De La Harpe Golden writes: >> So the issue may well be local to your machine and/or caused by some >> extra thing you have installed. It doesn't seem to be an issue with >> gnome 2.32.1 in general. > > Ok thanks, i will try to investigate more as soon as possible. > So, um. Following Jan D.'s discovery under bug #8869 [1], I can in fact reliably replicate that emacs-side issue under Ubuntu. Thierry, depending on _how_ you exit emacs or close frames, your issue may really be the same problem. If you routinely use the window's close button rather than C-x C-c, for example. When I was testing, I was always using either the keyboard or my gfx tablet which picks up hires movement jitters keeping things working.:-( [1] http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=8869#35 From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jun 22 00:36:23 2011 Received: (at 8779) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Jun 2011 04:36:23 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QZFAt-0004xj-7d for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 22 Jun 2011 00:36:23 -0400 Received: from mail-ww0-f46.google.com ([74.125.82.46]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QZFAr-0004xT-Sp for 8779@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 22 Jun 2011 00:36:22 -0400 Received: by wwf25 with SMTP id 25so425594wwf.15 for <8779@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 21 Jun 2011 21:36:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to :message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=5Xq3T6S/qPS2rV9w/bestwwdq2zrrjvlHpdl52JMG3k=; b=de4k/oSCjJbvdZHGoU2gKSnJqew0+t07kHhqr+SxnGR3NKyPYKOP1KkPfuasMkEOMS LJSRvMaRSbjHot1IqVPrq1qP/Wl9SCiH/smRnpeozJBoU/kOqtoPPfuPUI7PYL1SHOma IkH/dOjbAGOdERcBfDt8eLvkafhu5DBkI8FLg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type; b=b4P8OIApDNcvL8MRZtdJfg93eB1gdMw1FO7X6Gz6ANW1OsdP2nNGz1t2YUp4jnA/Ig 97TevJENLOFs5r/U5aK4mSf5GtUwtHH3zMTfDq3mCDTLygwcyZLd21GiJ3L5SzHGf7WG 306QzXHjHHJ72dwegbaN7shgnHjyQUKKyF+Xg= Received: by 10.227.60.206 with SMTP id q14mr192362wbh.111.1308717376085; Tue, 21 Jun 2011 21:36:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from thierry-MM061 (43.77.197.77.rev.sfr.net [77.197.77.43]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ej7sm116126wbb.53.2011.06.21.21.36.13 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 21 Jun 2011 21:36:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Thierry Volpiatto To: David De La Harpe Golden Subject: Re: bug#8779: 24.0.50; clipboard manager problem on gnome? References: <87d3iym7m5.fsf@gmail.com> <4DE702EC.3090907@harpegolden.net> <87zkm0omxd.fsf@gmail.com> <4DE82C1E.1000907@harpegolden.net> <87wrh3e7rk.fsf@gmail.com> <4DEB01F9.9020408@harpegolden.net> <87ei389658.fsf@gmail.com> <4E01147D.7010607@harpegolden.net> Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 06:36:11 +0200 In-Reply-To: <4E01147D.7010607@harpegolden.net> (David De La Harpe Golden's message of "Tue, 21 Jun 2011 23:00:29 +0100") Message-ID: <87liwupjno.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 8779 Cc: 8779@debbugs.gnu.org, Chong Yidong X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) David De La Harpe Golden writes: > On 05/06/11 06:52, Thierry Volpiatto wrote: >> David De La Harpe Golden writes: >>> So the issue may well be local to your machine and/or caused by some >>> extra thing you have installed. It doesn't seem to be an issue with >>> gnome 2.32.1 in general. >> >> Ok thanks, i will try to investigate more as soon as possible. >> > > So, um. Following Jan D.'s discovery under bug #8869 [1], I can in > fact reliably replicate that emacs-side issue under Ubuntu. Thierry, > depending on _how_ you exit emacs or close frames, your issue may > really be the same problem. If you routinely use the window's close > button rather than C-x C-c, for example. I always close emacs with C-x C-c, i use no menu, scrollbar, buttons etc ... Note that of course setting `x-select-enable-clipboard-manager' to nil have fixed the problem: (when (boundp 'x-select-enable-clipboard-manager) (setq x-select-enable-clipboard-manager nil)) (I really don't need such feature, i have always an emacs session running, and even if i close emacs, i don't feel the need of keeping stuff in the clipboard.) Thanks. > When I was testing, I was always using either the keyboard or my gfx > tablet which picks up hires movement jitters keeping things > working.:-( > > [1] http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=8869#35 -- A+ Thierry Get my Gnupg key: gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys 59F29997 From unknown Mon Aug 18 00:07:24 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 11:24:04 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator