From unknown Sun Jun 22 11:30:55 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#8758 <8758@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#8758 <8758@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: New package: ninja Reply-To: bug#8758 <8758@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2025 18:30:55 +0000 retitle 8758 New package: ninja reassign 8758 emacs submitter 8758 Matthew Styskal severity 8758 wishlist tag 8758 patch wontfix thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun May 29 18:31:08 2011 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 May 2011 22:31:08 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QQoVm-0005QU-Hi for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 29 May 2011 18:31:08 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QQnwE-0004dP-Ox for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 29 May 2011 17:54:25 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QQnw8-0004Qp-U0 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 29 May 2011 17:54:17 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20,HTML_MESSAGE, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, RECEIVED_FROM_WINDOWS_HOST autolearn=no version=3.3.1 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]:41698) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QQnw8-0004Qk-SV for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 29 May 2011 17:54:16 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:57711) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QQnw8-0007Fs-0H for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 29 May 2011 17:54:16 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QQnw7-0004QB-2a for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 29 May 2011 17:54:15 -0400 Received: from bay0-omc3-s6.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.190.144]:16727) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QQnw6-0004Pn-O5 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 29 May 2011 17:54:15 -0400 Received: from SN2PRD0102HT027.prod.exchangelabs.com ([65.54.190.189]) by bay0-omc3-s6.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sun, 29 May 2011 14:34:12 -0700 Received: from SN2PRD0102MB141.prod.exchangelabs.com ([169.254.4.180]) by SN2PRD0102HT027.prod.exchangelabs.com ([10.27.90.95]) with mapi id 14.01.0225.052; Sun, 29 May 2011 21:34:12 +0000 From: Matthew Styskal To: "bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org" Subject: New package: ninja Thread-Topic: New package: ninja Thread-Index: AQHMHkgloq3GVH0rHEmpnLSCA2zMxQ== Date: Sun, 29 May 2011 21:34:10 +0000 Message-ID: <154E4FA49E4C294F835FCD7D277CB3E7A157@SN2PRD0102MB141.prod.exchangelabs.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [98.197.130.3] x-ms-exchange-transport-rules-loop: 0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_004_154E4FA49E4C294F835FCD7D277CB3E7A157SN2PRD0102MB141prod_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: my.lonestar.edu X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 May 2011 21:34:12.0579 (UTC) FILETIME=[26E2FB30:01CC1E48] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Windows 2000 SP4, XP SP1+ X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.17 X-Spam-Score: -5.9 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 29 May 2011 18:31:06 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -5.9 (-----) --_004_154E4FA49E4C294F835FCD7D277CB3E7A157SN2PRD0102MB141prod_ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_154E4FA49E4C294F835FCD7D277CB3E7A157SN2PRD0102MB141prod_" --_000_154E4FA49E4C294F835FCD7D277CB3E7A157SN2PRD0102MB141prod_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I apologize if this is the wrong place to submit this; it seems somewhat od= d to submit new packages to a bug-fixing mailgroup, but that's what the Ema= cs homepage on the GNU website said to do. (I'm gnu here, if you'll pardon = the pun.) One of the shortcomings Emacs seemed to have to me was its lack of original= action games; it has implementations of classics like Pong and Snake, but = no games of its own. So I wrote one (see the attachment). It has a pretty s= tiff learning curve, but hey, so does Emacs. I attempted to follow the header & docstring conventions, and I should have= plenty of free time soon to make any other improvements to this you guys d= eem necessary before its inclusion. And I am willing to maintain it and to = give the copyright to the FSF. Thank you for your time. --_000_154E4FA49E4C294F835FCD7D277CB3E7A157SN2PRD0102MB141prod_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I apologize if this is the wrong place to submit this; it seems somewhat= odd to submit new packages to a bug-fixing mailgroup, but that's what the = Emacs homepage on the GNU website said to do. (I'm gnu here,= if you'll pardon the pun.)

 

One of the shortcomings Emacs seemed to have to me was its lack of origi= nal action games; it has implementations of classics like Pong and Snake, b= ut no games of its own. So I wrote one (see the attachment). It has a prett= y stiff learning curve, but hey, so does Emacs.

 

I attempted to follow the header & docstring conventions, and I=  should have plenty of free time soon to make any other = ;improvements to this you guys deem necessary before its inclusion. And I a= m willing to maintain it and to give the copyright to the FSF.

 

Thank you for your time.

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([169.254.4.180]) by SN2PRD0102HT027.prod.exchangelabs.com ([10.27.90.95]) with mapi id 14.01.0225.052; Mon, 30 May 2011 20:48:29 +0000 From: Matthew Styskal To: "8758@debbugs.gnu.org" <8758@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Fixed-width font Thread-Topic: Fixed-width font Thread-Index: AcwfCu0yW/PUc/3LQA+fh5O3XkN0pg== Date: Mon, 30 May 2011 20:48:27 +0000 Message-ID: <154E4FA49E4C294F835FCD7D277CB3E7B174@SN2PRD0102MB141.prod.exchangelabs.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [98.197.130.3] x-ms-exchange-transport-rules-loop: 0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: my.lonestar.edu X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 May 2011 20:48:30.0687 (UTC) FILETIME=[EF0136F0:01CC1F0A] X-Spam-Score: -4.3 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 8758 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , 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I normally have to use Windows, and the default Emacs font is fix= ed-width there, but I remember that the default wasn't on Ubuntu's packaged= version of Emacs.= From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Apr 12 15:41:34 2012 Received: (at 8758) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Apr 2012 19:41:34 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54816 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SIPte-0001ul-6P for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 15:41:34 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:49397) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SIPtb-0001ud-TK for 8758@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 15:41:33 -0400 Received: from cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no ([84.215.51.58] helo=stories.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SIPsG-0008Fx-Jy; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 21:40:08 +0200 From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen To: Matthew Styskal Subject: Re: bug#8758: New package: ninja References: <154E4FA49E4C294F835FCD7D277CB3E7A157@SN2PRD0102MB141.prod.exchangelabs.com> X-Now-Playing: His Name Is Alive's _ECLIPX_: "The Ark The Light Your Eyes Inside" Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 21:40:02 +0200 In-Reply-To: <154E4FA49E4C294F835FCD7D277CB3E7A157@SN2PRD0102MB141.prod.exchangelabs.com> (Matthew Styskal's message of "Sun, 29 May 2011 21:34:10 +0000") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.130004 (Ma Gnus v0.4) Emacs/24.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1SIPsG-0008Fx-Jy X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1334864410.25015@55qX9yz954Et8j52SbVspg X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 8758 Cc: 8758@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) Matthew Styskal writes: > One of the shortcomings Emacs seemed to have to me was its lack of > original action games; it has implementations of classics like Pong > and Snake, but no games of its own. So I wrote one (see the > attachment). It has a pretty stiff learning curve, but hey, so does > Emacs. There hasn't been many (or any?) new games included in the Emacs distribution the last few years, but perhaps this would be appropriate for inclusion in the Emacs Lisp Package Archive or Marmalade instead? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/ From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Apr 12 17:44:02 2012 Received: (at 8758) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Apr 2012 21:44:02 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54978 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SIRoA-0006Qt-8O for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 17:44:02 -0400 Received: from chene.dit.umontreal.ca ([132.204.246.20]:55655) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SIRo8-0006QO-Ax for 8758@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 17:44:00 -0400 Received: from faina.iro.umontreal.ca (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by chene.dit.umontreal.ca (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q3CLgiE1003753; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 17:42:44 -0400 Received: by faina.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 4645CB4066; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 17:42:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Stefan Monnier To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Subject: Re: bug#8758: New package: ninja Message-ID: References: <154E4FA49E4C294F835FCD7D277CB3E7A157@SN2PRD0102MB141.prod.exchangelabs.com> Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 17:42:44 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen's message of "Thu, 12 Apr 2012 21:40:02 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.94 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-NAI-Spam-Flag: NO X-NAI-Spam-Threshold: 5 X-NAI-Spam-Score: 0 X-NAI-Spam-Rules: 1 Rules triggered RV4190=0 X-NAI-Spam-Version: 2.2.0.9309 : core <4190> : streams <746354> : uri <1098532> X-Spam-Score: -3.5 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 8758 Cc: 8758@debbugs.gnu.org, Matthew Styskal X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -3.5 (---) >> One of the shortcomings Emacs seemed to have to me was its lack of >> original action games; it has implementations of classics like Pong >> and Snake, but no games of its own. So I wrote one (see the >> attachment). It has a pretty stiff learning curve, but hey, so does >> Emacs. > There hasn't been many (or any?) new games included in the Emacs > distribution the last few years, but perhaps this would be appropriate > for inclusion in the Emacs Lisp Package Archive or Marmalade instead? It would be great in GNU ELPA, yes, Stefan From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Apr 12 18:06:58 2012 Received: (at 8758) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Apr 2012 22:06:58 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55019 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SISAK-0006xO-EV for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 18:06:57 -0400 Received: from db3ehsobe005.messaging.microsoft.com ([213.199.154.143]:18843 helo=db3outboundpool.messaging.microsoft.com) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SISAG-0006xD-M7 for 8758@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 18:06:54 -0400 Received: from mail79-db3-R.bigfish.com (10.3.81.234) by DB3EHSOBE001.bigfish.com (10.3.84.21) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.1.225.23; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 22:05:36 +0000 Received: from mail79-db3 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail79-db3-R.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83041380635; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 22:05:36 +0000 (UTC) X-SpamScore: -1 X-BigFish: PS-1(zz9371Izz1202hzz8275dhz2fh2a8h668h839h944hd25h) X-Forefront-Antispam-Report: CIP:207.46.4.203; KIP:(null); UIP:(null); IPV:NLI; H:SN2PRD0102HT010.prod.exchangelabs.com; RD:none; EFVD:NLI Received-SPF: pass (mail79-db3: domain of my.lonestar.edu designates 207.46.4.203 as permitted sender) client-ip=207.46.4.203; envelope-from=mastyskal@my.lonestar.edu; helo=SN2PRD0102HT010.prod.exchangelabs.com ; angelabs.com ; Received: from mail79-db3 (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail79-db3 (MessageSwitch) id 1334268334667537_1614; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 22:05:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from DB3EHSMHS011.bigfish.com (unknown [10.3.81.248]) by mail79-db3.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DF6D480049; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 22:05:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from SN2PRD0102HT010.prod.exchangelabs.com (207.46.4.203) by DB3EHSMHS011.bigfish.com (10.3.87.111) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.225.23; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 22:05:33 +0000 Received: from SN2PRD0102MB141.prod.exchangelabs.com ([169.254.4.190]) by SN2PRD0102HT010.prod.exchangelabs.com ([10.27.51.88]) with mapi id 14.15.0057.001; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 22:05:32 +0000 From: Matthew Styskal To: Stefan Monnier , Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Subject: RE: bug#8758: New package: ninja Thread-Topic: bug#8758: New package: ninja Thread-Index: AQHNGPUxoq3GVH0rHEmpnLSCA2zMxZaXvsep Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 22:05:31 +0000 Message-ID: <154E4FA49E4C294F835FCD7D277CB3E72974ABE5@SN2PRD0102MB141.prod.exchangelabs.com> References: <154E4FA49E4C294F835FCD7D277CB3E7A157@SN2PRD0102MB141.prod.exchangelabs.com> , In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.27.51.229] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: my.lonestar.edu X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 8758 Cc: "8758@debbugs.gnu.org" <8758@debbugs.gnu.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) What's the procedure to submit to there?=0A= =0A= ________________________________________=0A= From: Stefan Monnier [monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA]=0A= Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 4:42 PM=0A= To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen=0A= Cc: Matthew Styskal; 8758@debbugs.gnu.org=0A= Subject: Re: bug#8758: New package: ninja=0A= =0A= >> One of the shortcomings Emacs seemed to have to me was its lack of=0A= >> original action games; it has implementations of classics like Pong=0A= >> and Snake, but no games of its own. So I wrote one (see the=0A= >> attachment). It has a pretty stiff learning curve, but hey, so does=0A= >> Emacs.=0A= =0A= > There hasn't been many (or any?) new games included in the Emacs=0A= > distribution the last few years, but perhaps this would be appropriate=0A= > for inclusion in the Emacs Lisp Package Archive or Marmalade instead?=0A= =0A= It would be great in GNU ELPA, yes,=0A= =0A= =0A= Stefan=0A= =0A= From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Feb 25 01:55:33 2016 Received: (at 8758) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Feb 2016 06:55:33 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44672 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aYppl-0003BN-GO for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 25 Feb 2016 01:55:33 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:59153) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aYppj-0003BE-3i for 8758@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 25 Feb 2016 01:55:31 -0500 Received: from [175.103.25.178] (helo=mouse) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1aYpp6-0005Ru-BT; Thu, 25 Feb 2016 07:54:53 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Matthew Styskal Subject: Re: bug#8758: New package: ninja References: <154E4FA49E4C294F835FCD7D277CB3E7A157@SN2PRD0102MB141.prod.exchangelabs.com> <154E4FA49E4C294F835FCD7D277CB3E72974ABE5@SN2PRD0102MB141.prod.exchangelabs.com> Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2016 17:24:45 +1030 In-Reply-To: <154E4FA49E4C294F835FCD7D277CB3E72974ABE5@SN2PRD0102MB141.prod.exchangelabs.com> (Matthew Styskal's message of "Thu, 12 Apr 2012 22:05:31 +0000") Message-ID: <87lh69uvnu.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1aYpp6-0005Ru-BT X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1456988093.14145@GQ+jAmNC/NmYb0tc2Y9Omw X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 8758 Cc: Stefan Monnier , 8758@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Sorry, I think we all forgot to answer the question some years back... I think it's the same way as with Emacs -- somebody just has to check it in to the ELPA repository instead. The copyright has to be assigned to the FSF for ELPA contributions, too. Would you be OK with doing that? For Marmalade, I don't think you have to... Matthew Styskal writes: > What's the procedure to submit to there? > > ________________________________________ > From: Stefan Monnier [monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA] > Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 4:42 PM > To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen > =, 8758@debbugs.gnu.org > Cc: Matthew Styskal; 8758@debbugs.gnu.org > Subject: Re: bug#8758: New package: ninja > >>> One of the shortcomings Emacs seemed to have to me was its lack of >>> original action games; it has implementations of classics like Pong >>> and Snake, but no games of its own. So I wrote one (see the >>> attachment). It has a pretty stiff learning curve, but hey, so does >>> Emacs. > >> There hasn't been many (or any?) new games included in the Emacs >> distribution the last few years, but perhaps this would be appropriate >> for inclusion in the Emacs Lisp Package Archive or Marmalade instead? > > It would be great in GNU ELPA, yes, > > Stefan -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Feb 25 18:00:06 2016 Received: (at 8758) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Feb 2016 23:00:06 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46441 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aZ4tC-0007wO-L0 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 25 Feb 2016 18:00:06 -0500 Received: from mail-bl2on0133.outbound.protection.outlook.com ([65.55.169.133]:17045 helo=na01-bl2-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aZ4tA-0007uc-D6 for 8758@debbugs.gnu.org; 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I remember trying to submit to ELPA and agreeing to assign copyright to the FSF, but being asked to sign a document that also assigned copyright of every other Emacs package I'd written to the FSF too. I went back and forth with the FSF lawyer for a few emails, where he kept making small changes to the document that didn't really solve the problem, until I gave up. I'll look into submitting to Marmalade, thanks! On 02/25/2016 12:54 AM, Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: > Sorry, I think we all forgot to answer the question some years back... > > I think it's the same way as with Emacs -- somebody just has to check it > in to the ELPA repository instead. > > The copyright has to be assigned to the FSF for ELPA contributions, > too. Would you be OK with doing that? For Marmalade, I don't think you > have to... > > Matthew Styskal writes: > >> What's the procedure to submit to there? >> >> ________________________________________ >> From: Stefan Monnier [monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA] >> Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 4:42 PM >> To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen >> =, 8758@debbugs.gnu.org >> Cc: Matthew Styskal; 8758@debbugs.gnu.org >> Subject: Re: bug#8758: New package: ninja >> >>>> One of the shortcomings Emacs seemed to have to me was its lack of >>>> original action games; it has implementations of classics like Pong >>>> and Snake, but no games of its own. So I wrote one (see the >>>> attachment). It has a pretty stiff learning curve, but hey, so does >>>> Emacs. >>> There hasn't been many (or any?) new games included in the Emacs >>> distribution the last few years, but perhaps this would be appropriate >>> for inclusion in the Emacs Lisp Package Archive or Marmalade instead? >> It would be great in GNU ELPA, yes, >> >> Stefan From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Feb 25 20:49:58 2016 Received: (at 8758) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Feb 2016 01:49:58 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46502 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aZ7Xa-0003ah-CL for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 25 Feb 2016 20:49:58 -0500 Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181]:13065) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aZ7XY-0003aU-Hp for 8758@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 25 Feb 2016 20:49:57 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: A0AyFgA731xV/+OhCkxcDoMChAKFVbtAh0sEAgKBPDoTAQEBAQEBAYEKQQWDXQEBAwFWIwULCzQSFBgNJIg3CM8jAQEBAQYBAQEBAR2LOoUFB4QtBYwwjT4FmUyBRSODOlwggngBAQE X-IPAS-Result: A0AyFgA731xV/+OhCkxcDoMChAKFVbtAh0sEAgKBPDoTAQEBAQEBAYEKQQWDXQEBAwFWIwULCzQSFBgNJIg3CM8jAQEBAQYBAQEBAR2LOoUFB4QtBYwwjT4FmUyBRSODOlwggngBAQE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.13,465,1427774400"; d="scan'208";a="194419082" Received: from 76-10-161-227.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO fmsmemgm.homelinux.net) ([76.10.161.227]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 25 Feb 2016 20:49:49 -0500 Received: by fmsmemgm.homelinux.net (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 219CBAE57A; Thu, 25 Feb 2016 20:49:50 -0500 (EST) From: Stefan Monnier To: matthew Subject: Re: bug#8758: New package: ninja Message-ID: References: <154E4FA49E4C294F835FCD7D277CB3E7A157@SN2PRD0102MB141.prod.exchangelabs.com> <154E4FA49E4C294F835FCD7D277CB3E72974ABE5@SN2PRD0102MB141.prod.exchangelabs.com> <87lh69uvnu.fsf@gnus.org> <56CF876A.3020509@my.lonestar.edu> Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2016 20:49:50 -0500 In-Reply-To: <56CF876A.3020509@my.lonestar.edu> (matthew's message of "Thu, 25 Feb 2016 16:59:54 -0600") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 8758 Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen , 8758@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) > being asked to sign a document that also assigned copyright of every other > Emacs package I'd written to the FSF too. I went back and forth with the FSF The document doesn't do that. It only says you assign copyright to changes you make to Emacs (and yes, GNU ELPA is considered as part of Emacs in this respect). Just because you write a package in Elisp has no impact. Elisp packages only become covered by the copyright assignment after you submit them for inclusion (or after you agree to their inclusion) into Emacs or GNU ELPA. 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