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Message #5 received at submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Matthew Styskal <mastyskal <at> my.lonestar.edu>
To: "bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org" <bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org>
Subject: New package: ninja
Date: Sun, 29 May 2011 21:34:10 +0000

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I apologize if this is the wrong place to submit this; it seems somewhat odd to submit new packages to a bug-fixing mailgroup, but that's what the Emacs homepage on the GNU website said to do. (I'm gnu here, if you'll pardon the pun.)



One of the shortcomings Emacs seemed to have to me was its lack of original action games; it has implementations of classics like Pong and Snake, but no games of its own. So I wrote one (see the attachment). It has a pretty stiff learning curve, but hey, so does Emacs.



I attempted to follow the header & docstring conventions, and I should have plenty of free time soon to make any other improvements to this you guys deem necessary before its inclusion. And I am willing to maintain it and to give the copyright to the FSF.



Thank you for your time.

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Message #8 received at 8758 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Matthew Styskal <mastyskal <at> my.lonestar.edu>
To: "8758 <at> debbugs.gnu.org" <8758 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
Subject: Fixed-width font
Date: Mon, 30 May 2011 20:48:27 +0000

Sorry, I forgot to say that the font must be set to fixed-width before running this. I normally have to use Windows, and the default Emacs font is fixed-width there, but I remember that the default wasn't on Ubuntu's packaged version of Emacs.

Message #11 received at 8758 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: Matthew Styskal <mastyskal <at> my.lonestar.edu>
Cc: 8758 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#8758: New package: ninja
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 21:40:02 +0200

Matthew Styskal <mastyskal <at> my.lonestar.edu> writes:

> One of the shortcomings Emacs seemed to have to me was its lack of
> original action games; it has implementations of classics like Pong
> and Snake, but no games of its own. So I wrote one (see the
> attachment). It has a pretty stiff learning curve, but hey, so does
> Emacs.

There hasn't been many (or any?) new games included in the Emacs
distribution the last few years, but perhaps this would be appropriate
for inclusion in the Emacs Lisp Package Archive or Marmalade instead?

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
  bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/

Message #14 received at 8758 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> IRO.UMontreal.CA>
To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
Cc: 8758 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Matthew Styskal <mastyskal <at> my.lonestar.edu>
Subject: Re: bug#8758: New package: ninja
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 17:42:44 -0400

>> One of the shortcomings Emacs seemed to have to me was its lack of
>> original action games; it has implementations of classics like Pong
>> and Snake, but no games of its own. So I wrote one (see the
>> attachment). It has a pretty stiff learning curve, but hey, so does
>> Emacs.

> There hasn't been many (or any?) new games included in the Emacs
> distribution the last few years, but perhaps this would be appropriate
> for inclusion in the Emacs Lisp Package Archive or Marmalade instead?

It would be great in GNU ELPA, yes,


        Stefan

Message #17 received at 8758 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Matthew Styskal <mastyskal <at> my.lonestar.edu>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> IRO.UMontreal.CA>, Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
	<larsi <at> gnus.org>
Cc: "8758 <at> debbugs.gnu.org" <8758 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
Subject: RE: bug#8758: New package: ninja
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 22:05:31 +0000

What's the procedure to submit to there?

________________________________________
From: Stefan Monnier [monnier <at> IRO.UMontreal.CA]
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 4:42 PM
To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
Cc: Matthew Styskal; 8758 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#8758: New package: ninja

>> One of the shortcomings Emacs seemed to have to me was its lack of
>> original action games; it has implementations of classics like Pong
>> and Snake, but no games of its own. So I wrote one (see the
>> attachment). It has a pretty stiff learning curve, but hey, so does
>> Emacs.

> There hasn't been many (or any?) new games included in the Emacs
> distribution the last few years, but perhaps this would be appropriate
> for inclusion in the Emacs Lisp Package Archive or Marmalade instead?

It would be great in GNU ELPA, yes,


        Stefan

Message #20 received at 8758 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: Matthew Styskal <mastyskal <at> my.lonestar.edu>
Cc: Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> IRO.UMontreal.CA>, 8758 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#8758: New package: ninja
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2016 17:24:45 +1030

Sorry, I think we all forgot to answer the question some years back...

I think it's the same way as with Emacs -- somebody just has to check it
in to the ELPA repository instead.

The copyright has to be assigned to the FSF for ELPA contributions,
too.  Would you be OK with doing that?  For Marmalade, I don't think you
have to...

Matthew Styskal <mastyskal <at> my.lonestar.edu> writes:

> What's the procedure to submit to there?
>
> ________________________________________
> From: Stefan Monnier [monnier <at> IRO.UMontreal.CA]
> Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 4:42 PM
> To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
> =, 8758 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> Cc: Matthew Styskal; 8758 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> Subject: Re: bug#8758: New package: ninja
>
>>> One of the shortcomings Emacs seemed to have to me was its lack of
>>> original action games; it has implementations of classics like Pong
>>> and Snake, but no games of its own. So I wrote one (see the
>>> attachment). It has a pretty stiff learning curve, but hey, so does
>>> Emacs.
>
>> There hasn't been many (or any?) new games included in the Emacs
>> distribution the last few years, but perhaps this would be appropriate
>> for inclusion in the Emacs Lisp Package Archive or Marmalade instead?
>
> It would be great in GNU ELPA, yes,
>
>         Stefan

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no

Message #23 received at 8758 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: matthew <mastyskal <at> my.lonestar.edu>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
Cc: Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> IRO.UMontreal.CA>, 8758 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#8758: New package: ninja
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2016 16:59:54 -0600

Someone did answer back then, somewhere (maybe not on this list). I 
remember trying to submit to ELPA and agreeing to assign copyright to 
the FSF, but being asked to sign a document that also assigned copyright 
of every other Emacs package I'd written to the FSF too. I went back and 
forth with the FSF lawyer for a few emails, where he kept making small 
changes to the document that didn't really solve the problem, until I 
gave up.

I'll look into submitting to Marmalade, thanks!

On 02/25/2016 12:54 AM, Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote:
> Sorry, I think we all forgot to answer the question some years back...
>
> I think it's the same way as with Emacs -- somebody just has to check it
> in to the ELPA repository instead.
>
> The copyright has to be assigned to the FSF for ELPA contributions,
> too.  Would you be OK with doing that?  For Marmalade, I don't think you
> have to...
>
> Matthew Styskal <mastyskal <at> my.lonestar.edu> writes:
>
>> What's the procedure to submit to there?
>>
>> ________________________________________
>> From: Stefan Monnier [monnier <at> IRO.UMontreal.CA]
>> Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 4:42 PM
>> To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
>> =, 8758 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
>> Cc: Matthew Styskal; 8758 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
>> Subject: Re: bug#8758: New package: ninja
>>
>>>> One of the shortcomings Emacs seemed to have to me was its lack of
>>>> original action games; it has implementations of classics like Pong
>>>> and Snake, but no games of its own. So I wrote one (see the
>>>> attachment). It has a pretty stiff learning curve, but hey, so does
>>>> Emacs.
>>> There hasn't been many (or any?) new games included in the Emacs
>>> distribution the last few years, but perhaps this would be appropriate
>>> for inclusion in the Emacs Lisp Package Archive or Marmalade instead?
>> It would be great in GNU ELPA, yes,
>>
>>          Stefan

Message #26 received at 8758 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca>
To: matthew <mastyskal <at> my.lonestar.edu>
Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>, 8758 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#8758: New package: ninja
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2016 20:49:50 -0500

> being asked to sign a document that also assigned copyright of every other
> Emacs package I'd written to the FSF too. I went back and forth with the FSF

The document doesn't do that.  It only says you assign copyright to
changes you make to Emacs (and yes, GNU ELPA is considered as part of
Emacs in this respect).  Just because you write a package in Elisp has
no impact.  Elisp packages only become covered by the copyright
assignment after you submit them for inclusion (or after you agree to
their inclusion) into Emacs or GNU ELPA.


        Stefan

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