From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue May 10 15:39:11 2011 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 May 2011 19:39:11 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QJslz-0008H2-3J for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 10 May 2011 15:39:11 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QJslw-0008Gq-UA for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 10 May 2011 15:39:09 -0400 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42095) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QJslr-0007fQ-Mp; Tue, 10 May 2011 15:39:03 -0400 From: Glenn Morris To: submit@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: font-locking of multi-author changelog entries X-Spook: Albanian Cocaine president Hugo Chavez NWO Audiotel X-Ran: b.r;P6fy@0QU@SGA#a,|W||3x5TYt2.E"(#i9x_TN%Svjd[+1j8m=grV&D9"D|o]:4~$i: X-Hue: yellow X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Attribution: GM Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 15:39:03 -0400 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -6.3 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.3 (------) Package: emacs Severity: minor Version: 23.3 With multi-author ChangeLog entries, eg: 2011-05-10 Me You (I don't actually know if that's the correct format for such entries, but I guess it is something like that), the second (and third etc if present) author is not font-locked by change-log-mode. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue May 10 16:17:11 2011 Received: (at 8644) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 May 2011 20:17:12 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QJtMl-0000mL-OY for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 10 May 2011 16:17:11 -0400 Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QJtMh-0000m3-Hg for 8644@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 10 May 2011 16:17:08 -0400 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0LKZ00K00XDU2400@a-mtaout20.012.net.il> for 8644@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 10 May 2011 23:17:01 +0300 (IDT) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([84.228.234.175]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0LKZ00IIJXOAW1E0@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Tue, 10 May 2011 23:16:59 +0300 (IDT) Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 23:17:06 +0300 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#8644: font-locking of multi-author changelog entries In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: Glenn Morris Message-id: <83oc3agvjx.fsf@gnu.org> References: X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 8644 Cc: 8644@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) > From: Glenn Morris > Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 15:39:03 -0400 > > With multi-author ChangeLog entries, eg: > > 2011-05-10 Me > You > > (I don't actually know if that's the correct format for such entries, > but I guess it is something like that), the second (and third etc if > present) author is not font-locked by change-log-mode. I never really understood the need for these entries. How can two or more people write some piece of code? Ideas cannot be copyrighted, so only the one who wrote the final version should be named, the rest can be attributed as "suggested by" or whatever. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue May 10 16:31:49 2011 Received: (at 8644) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 May 2011 20:31:49 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QJtav-00018M-7w for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 10 May 2011 16:31:49 -0400 Received: from mail-gx0-f172.google.com ([209.85.161.172]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QJtat-000188-LZ for 8644@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 10 May 2011 16:31:48 -0400 Received: by gxk19 with SMTP id 19so2366470gxk.3 for <8644@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 10 May 2011 13:31:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ERZ7fsJM98wWJgk++Q89hI6hf0IYs08VgEuewHzXMJ0=; b=oP9gCL7frmiF7wnWApVf8NiwES17PrvKTjkHIlPYzIYWSAaNq6MD4M9S2dXS6gg50f 3wHE6qidafCIu+C9rxt7q6/drQSc9Sx7SRTegnFwWp8/yaYSx/xuRFzWPrVjzwPeNKb0 FzHbqKULl6ju2liUdLPrTMZY2+ZPjz7uwEkpA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=xkgphPiNSwOrNxpy2SuQgFVsCkxBKuct3j+vWJM4hNo4wQMfupyykWz2GfoM0+QUzI oi6sEde+4JCW3KDPuHpQXXadlrcre8KL8w7uI0SSYQY/rjIijULvtnFolsssOjmdD2KE gqum48W+ErKuZDaHNh9tKYHGN/6drR9F3TL2Y= Received: by 10.236.78.34 with SMTP id f22mr9245720yhe.428.1305059502114; Tue, 10 May 2011 13:31:42 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.147.41.4 with HTTP; Tue, 10 May 2011 13:31:02 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <83oc3agvjx.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83oc3agvjx.fsf@gnu.org> From: Juanma Barranquero Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 22:31:02 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#8644: font-locking of multi-author changelog entries To: Eli Zaretskii Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 8644 Cc: 8644@debbugs.gnu.org, Glenn Morris X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 22:17, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > I never really understood the need for these entries. =C2=A0How can two o= r > more people write some piece of code? You just denied the XP practice of "pair programming"... :-) > Ideas cannot be copyrighted, so > only the one who wrote the final version should be named, the rest can > be attributed as "suggested by" or whatever. That depends on how much was done by the other people. Sometimes the one who didn't code a line did all design decisions. "Suggested by" does not cover it IMHO. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Juanma From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue May 10 16:38:14 2011 Received: (at 8644) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 May 2011 20:38:14 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QJth8-0001Jb-L7 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 10 May 2011 16:38:14 -0400 Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QJth4-0001JN-VQ for 8644@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 10 May 2011 16:38:12 -0400 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0LKZ00K00YLA5V00@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for 8644@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 10 May 2011 23:38:04 +0300 (IDT) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([84.228.234.175]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0LKZ00JXEYNENG50@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Tue, 10 May 2011 23:38:04 +0300 (IDT) Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 23:38:10 +0300 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#8644: font-locking of multi-author changelog entries In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: Juanma Barranquero Message-id: <83mxiugukt.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83oc3agvjx.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 8644 Cc: 8644@debbugs.gnu.org, rgm@gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) > From: Juanma Barranquero > Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 22:31:02 +0200 > Cc: Glenn Morris , 8644@debbugs.gnu.org > > > Ideas cannot be copyrighted, so > > only the one who wrote the final version should be named, the rest can > > be attributed as "suggested by" or whatever. > > That depends on how much was done by the other people. Sometimes the > one who didn't code a line did all design decisions. "Suggested by" > does not cover it IMHO. Design is still ideas. We could use "design ideas suggested by..." or anything else. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue May 10 18:56:11 2011 Received: (at 8644) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 May 2011 22:56:11 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QJvqd-0004NL-BL for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 10 May 2011 18:56:11 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QJvqa-0004N9-Pv for 8644@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 10 May 2011 18:56:09 -0400 Received: from 213-159-126-200.fibertel.com.ar ([200.126.159.213]:51331 helo=ceviche.home) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QJvqV-0002a8-51; Tue, 10 May 2011 18:56:03 -0400 Received: by ceviche.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 5345766152; Tue, 10 May 2011 19:55:59 -0300 (ART) From: Stefan Monnier To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#8644: font-locking of multi-author changelog entries Message-ID: References: <83oc3agvjx.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 19:55:59 -0300 In-Reply-To: <83oc3agvjx.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 10 May 2011 23:17:06 +0300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 8644 Cc: 8644@debbugs.gnu.org, Glenn Morris X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) > I never really understood the need for these entries. How can two or > more people write some piece of code? AFAIK most of Emacs's code has been written by more than 2 people. Those entries are used for cases just like that, where the code being checked in is the result of mixing code from two persons. Typically it is like a separate branch developed by 2 or more people and that gets installed as a single commit, except that usually they didn't use an actual Bzr branch but just exchanged patches back and forth. Stefan From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed May 11 12:20:17 2011 Received: (at 8644) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 May 2011 16:20:17 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QKC92-0004Lc-TG for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 May 2011 12:20:17 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QKC91-0004LP-GT for 8644@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 May 2011 12:20:15 -0400 Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QKC8v-0003V7-Bq; Wed, 11 May 2011 12:20:09 -0400 Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 12:20:09 -0400 Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 From: Richard Stallman To: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <83mxiugukt.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Tue, 10 May 2011 23:38:10 +0300) Subject: Re: bug#8644: font-locking of multi-author changelog entries References: <83oc3agvjx.fsf@gnu.org> <83mxiugukt.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -6.6 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 8644 Cc: 8644@debbugs.gnu.org, lekktu@gmail.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Reply-To: rms@gnu.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.6 (------) > That depends on how much was done by the other people. Sometimes the > one who didn't code a line did all design decisions. "Suggested by" > does not cover it IMHO. Design is still ideas. We could use "design ideas suggested by..." or anything else. If the design ideas are at the level of details of writing the code, they could be part of what copyright covers. That legal distinction is not at a sharp place. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org, www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. 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