GNU bug report logs - #8644
font-locking of multi-author changelog entries

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From: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>
To: submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: font-locking of multi-author changelog entries
Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 15:39:03 -0400

Package: emacs
Severity: minor
Version: 23.3

With multi-author ChangeLog entries, eg:

2011-05-10  Me  <my <at> mine>
	    You <you <at> yours>

(I don't actually know if that's the correct format for such entries,
but I guess it is something like that), the second (and third etc if
present) author is not font-locked by change-log-mode.

Message #6 received at 8644 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 8644 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#8644: font-locking of multi-author changelog entries
Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 23:17:06 +0300

> From: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>
> Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 15:39:03 -0400
> 
> With multi-author ChangeLog entries, eg:
> 
> 2011-05-10  Me  <my <at> mine>
> 	    You <you <at> yours>
> 
> (I don't actually know if that's the correct format for such entries,
> but I guess it is something like that), the second (and third etc if
> present) author is not font-locked by change-log-mode.

I never really understood the need for these entries.  How can two or
more people write some piece of code?  Ideas cannot be copyrighted, so
only the one who wrote the final version should be named, the rest can
be attributed as "suggested by" or whatever.

Message #9 received at 8644 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Juanma Barranquero <lekktu <at> gmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 8644 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>
Subject: Re: bug#8644: font-locking of multi-author changelog entries
Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 22:31:02 +0200

On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 22:17, Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> wrote:

> I never really understood the need for these entries.  How can two or
> more people write some piece of code?

You just denied the XP practice of "pair programming"... :-)

> Ideas cannot be copyrighted, so
> only the one who wrote the final version should be named, the rest can
> be attributed as "suggested by" or whatever.

That depends on how much was done by the other people. Sometimes the
one who didn't code a line did all design decisions. "Suggested by"
does not cover it IMHO.

    Juanma

Message #12 received at 8644 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Juanma Barranquero <lekktu <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 8644 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, rgm <at> gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#8644: font-locking of multi-author changelog entries
Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 23:38:10 +0300

> From: Juanma Barranquero <lekktu <at> gmail.com>
> Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 22:31:02 +0200
> Cc: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>, 8644 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> 
> > Ideas cannot be copyrighted, so
> > only the one who wrote the final version should be named, the rest can
> > be attributed as "suggested by" or whatever.
> 
> That depends on how much was done by the other people. Sometimes the
> one who didn't code a line did all design decisions. "Suggested by"
> does not cover it IMHO.

Design is still ideas.  We could use "design ideas suggested by..." or
anything else.

Message #15 received at 8644 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 8644 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>
Subject: Re: bug#8644: font-locking of multi-author changelog entries
Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 19:55:59 -0300

> I never really understood the need for these entries.  How can two or
> more people write some piece of code?

AFAIK most of Emacs's code has been written by more than 2 people.
Those entries are used for cases just like that, where the code being
checked in is the result of mixing code from two persons.  Typically it
is like a separate branch developed by 2 or more people and that gets
installed as a single commit, except that usually they didn't use an
actual Bzr branch but just exchanged patches back and forth.


        Stefan

Message #18 received at 8644 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Richard Stallman <rms <at> gnu.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 8644 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, lekktu <at> gmail.com
Subject: Re: bug#8644: font-locking of multi-author changelog entries
Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 12:20:09 -0400

    > That depends on how much was done by the other people. Sometimes the
    > one who didn't code a line did all design decisions. "Suggested by"
    > does not cover it IMHO.

    Design is still ideas.  We could use "design ideas suggested by..." or
    anything else.

If the design ideas are at the level of details of writing the code,
they could be part of what copyright covers.  That legal distinction
is not at a sharp place.

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