From unknown Sun Jun 15 13:01:48 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#8634: 24.0.50; `number-at-point' returns char value for `?' constructs - 1) doc, 2) new fns Resent-From: "Drew Adams" Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 07 May 2011 15:31:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 8634 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 8634@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.130478223926436 (code B ref -1); Sat, 07 May 2011 15:31:02 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 May 2011 15:30:39 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QIjSp-0006sK-2m for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 07 May 2011 11:30:39 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QIjSn-0006s8-3V for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 07 May 2011 11:30:37 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QIjSg-0003j9-VT for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 07 May 2011 11:30:31 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.1 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]:51432) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QIjSg-0003j5-Tv for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 07 May 2011 11:30:30 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:37807) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QIjSg-0000KL-3L for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 07 May 2011 11:30:30 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QIjSf-0003il-6g for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 07 May 2011 11:30:30 -0400 Received: from rcsinet10.oracle.com ([148.87.113.121]:24133) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QIjSf-0003ih-1D for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 07 May 2011 11:30:29 -0400 Received: from acsinet22.oracle.com (acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238]) by rcsinet10.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.2) with ESMTP id p47FUOJC020210 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 15:30:26 GMT Received: from acsmt358.oracle.com (acsmt358.oracle.com [141.146.40.158]) by acsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p47FUNUs026890 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 15:30:24 GMT Received: from abhmt009.oracle.com (abhmt009.oracle.com [141.146.116.18]) by acsmt358.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id p47FUI6M027896 for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 10:30:18 -0500 Received: from dradamslap1 (/10.159.41.131) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Sat, 07 May 2011 08:30:17 -0700 From: "Drew Adams" Date: Sat, 7 May 2011 08:30:22 -0700 Message-ID: <458B95C58F7348C2AA62A340071C6E1C@us.oracle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcwMy63TQPQmqp+rRSSD8kRUYJ5yjQ== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6090 X-Source-IP: acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090206.4DC56592.0093:SCFMA922111,ss=1,fgs=0 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.17 X-Spam-Score: -6.5 (------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.5 (------) `number-at-point' is defined like this: (defun number-at-point () "Return the number at point, or nil if none is found." (form-at-point 'sexp 'numberp)) That uses `read-from-string' for the sexp at point, and testing whether the result is `numberp'. That's fine, I guess, but it means that with buffer text such as ?A or ?\A-\^@ you get a non-nil result: the character value (wholenump) for ?A, which is 65, and 4194304, respectively. If you are depending on code to find _numerals_ in text and return their numeric values then this is not what you want. In that case, you want a function that returns nil when point is not on a numeral. The current behavior could admittedly be useful sometimes, but: 1. This should be mentioned in the doc string, as it's hardly what an uninformed user would expect, especially a newbie who doesn't yet know Emacs's char representation (`?.') and the fact that, for Emacs, chars are numbers. This behavior is not obvious, given the current doc and function name. 2. It might not be what the user or calling code really _wants_ in many (most?) cases. It's no doubt too late to change the name (e.g. to something like `number-or-char-at-point'). Some existing code probably depends on the current behavior. But it's not too late to add functions that do what many people might expect: return the number represented by the numeral at point, or nil if there is no numeral at point. Here are two functions that could be added. Whether you add them or not, please do mention the full behavior (with the gotcha) in the `number-at-point' doc string. (defun number-at-point-decimal () "Return the number represented by the decimal numeral at point. Return nil if none is found." (let ((strg (thing-at-point 'sexp))) (and (stringp strg) (if (fboundp 'string-match-p) (string-match-p "\\`[0-9]+\\'" strg) (string-match "\\`[0-9]+\\'" strg)) (string-to-number strg)))) (defun number-at-point-hex () "Return the number represented by the hex numeral at point. Return nil if none is found." (let ((strg (thing-at-point 'sexp))) (and (stringp strg) (if (fboundp 'string-match-p) (string-match-p "\\`[0-9a-fA-F]+\\'" strg) (string-match "\\`[0-9a-fA-F]+\\'" strg)) (string-to-number strg 16)))) In GNU Emacs 24.0.50.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) of 2011-04-25 on 3249CTO Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600 configured using `configure --with-gcc (4.5) --no-opt --cflags -Ic:/imagesupport/include' From unknown Sun Jun 15 13:01:48 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#8634: 24.0.50; `number-at-point' returns char value for `?' constructs - 1) doc, 2)new fns Resent-From: "Drew Adams" Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 07 May 2011 15:35:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 8634 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: <8634@debbugs.gnu.org> Received: via spool by 8634-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B8634.130478249426820 (code B ref 8634); Sat, 07 May 2011 15:35:02 +0000 Received: (at 8634) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 May 2011 15:34:54 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QIjWw-0006yX-Gf for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 07 May 2011 11:34:54 -0400 Received: from rcsinet10.oracle.com ([148.87.113.121]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QIjWu-0006yL-Qc for 8634@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 07 May 2011 11:34:53 -0400 Received: from rtcsinet21.oracle.com (rtcsinet21.oracle.com [66.248.204.29]) by rcsinet10.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.2) with ESMTP id p47FYjcd023369 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for <8634@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 7 May 2011 15:34:47 GMT Received: from acsmt358.oracle.com (acsmt358.oracle.com [141.146.40.158]) by rtcsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p47FYiio009125 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for <8634@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 7 May 2011 15:34:44 GMT Received: from abhmt019.oracle.com (abhmt019.oracle.com [141.146.116.28]) by acsmt358.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id p47FYcXA029637 for <8634@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 7 May 2011 10:34:38 -0500 Received: from dradamslap1 (/10.159.41.131) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Sat, 07 May 2011 08:34:38 -0700 From: "Drew Adams" References: <458B95C58F7348C2AA62A340071C6E1C@us.oracle.com> Date: Sat, 7 May 2011 08:34:42 -0700 Message-ID: <67996192D38C4DD792718F456D44E7D6@us.oracle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <458B95C58F7348C2AA62A340071C6E1C@us.oracle.com> Thread-Index: AcwMy63TQPQmqp+rRSSD8kRUYJ5yjQAAHBcQ X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6090 X-Source-IP: rtcsinet21.oracle.com [66.248.204.29] X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090203.4DC56697.002C:SCFSTAT5015188,ss=1,fgs=0 X-Spam-Score: -6.5 (------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.5 (------) > (if (fboundp 'string-match-p) > (string-match-p "\\`[0-9a-fA-F]+\\'" strg) > (string-match "\\`[0-9a-fA-F]+\\'" strg)) (Obviously, vanilla Emacs can just use `string-match-p', since it is defined.) From unknown Sun Jun 15 13:01:48 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#8634: 24.0.50; `number-at-point' returns char value for `?' constructs - 1) doc, 2) new fns Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 09 Feb 2014 06:47:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 8634 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: "Drew Adams" Cc: 8634@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 8634-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B8634.139192839828286 (code B ref 8634); Sun, 09 Feb 2014 06:47:01 +0000 Received: (at 8634) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Feb 2014 06:46:38 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59105 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WCOA0-0007M6-QF for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2014 01:46:37 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:54755) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WCO9y-0007Lw-AX for 8634@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2014 01:46:34 -0500 Received: from [204.14.154.233] (helo=building.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WCO9i-0007LG-IN; Sun, 09 Feb 2014 07:46:18 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen References: <458B95C58F7348C2AA62A340071C6E1C@us.oracle.com> Date: Sat, 08 Feb 2014 22:45:02 -0800 In-Reply-To: <458B95C58F7348C2AA62A340071C6E1C@us.oracle.com> (Drew Adams's message of "Sat, 7 May 2011 08:30:22 -0700") Message-ID: <87lhxk7pjl.fsf@building.gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13001 (Ma Gnus v0.10) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1WCO9i-0007LG-IN X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1392533180.38905@+9MAoAngtRldUHv6q5xWHg X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) "Drew Adams" writes: > `number-at-point' is defined like this: > > (defun number-at-point () > "Return the number at point, or nil if none is found." > (form-at-point 'sexp 'numberp)) > > That uses `read-from-string' for the sexp at point, and testing whether the > result is `numberp'. > > That's fine, I guess, but it means that with buffer text such as ?A or ?\A-\^@ > you get a non-nil result: the character value (wholenump) for ?A, which is 65, > and 4194304, respectively. If you are depending on code to find _numerals_ in > text and return their numeric values then this is not what you want. In that > case, you want a function that returns nil when point is not on a numeral. Looks like this is fixed now. Closing. Please reopen if you're still seeing this. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/ From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Feb 09 01:46:42 2014 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Feb 2014 06:46:42 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59108 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WCOA5-0007MT-Vp for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2014 01:46:42 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:54761) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WCOA3-0007ML-Ly for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2014 01:46:40 -0500 Received: from [204.14.154.233] (helo=building.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WCO9n-0007LX-Vl for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2014 07:46:24 +0100 Date: Sat, 08 Feb 2014 22:45:13 -0800 Message-Id: <87k3d47pja.fsf@building.gnus.org> To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #8634 X-MailScanner-ID: 1WCO9n-0007LX-Vl X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1392533186.44561@ZRYSzVliQC9z6dJdVg9rIg X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) close 8634 From unknown Sun Jun 15 13:01:48 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#8634: 24.0.50; `number-at-point' returns char value for `?' constructs - 1) doc, 2) new fns Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 09 Feb 2014 16:18:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 8634 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Cc: 8634@debbugs.gnu.org, drew.adams@oracle.com Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 8634-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B8634.139196264915655 (code B ref 8634); Sun, 09 Feb 2014 16:18:03 +0000 Received: (at 8634) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Feb 2014 16:17:29 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60688 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WCX4P-00044M-Bp for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2014 11:17:28 -0500 Received: from mtaout25.012.net.il ([80.179.55.181]:43760) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WCX4J-000448-I1 for 8634@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2014 11:17:23 -0500 Received: from conversion-daemon.mtaout25.012.net.il by mtaout25.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0N0Q00B00L1PYX00@mtaout25.012.net.il> for 8634@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2014 18:16:26 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by mtaout25.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0N0Q007IUL7E9A50@mtaout25.012.net.il>; Sun, 09 Feb 2014 18:16:26 +0200 (IST) Date: Sun, 09 Feb 2014 18:17:00 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <87lhxk7pjl.fsf@building.gnus.org> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il Message-id: <83r47cuupv.fsf@gnu.org> References: <458B95C58F7348C2AA62A340071C6E1C@us.oracle.com> <87lhxk7pjl.fsf@building.gnus.org> X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) > From: Lars Ingebrigtsen > Date: Sat, 08 Feb 2014 22:45:02 -0800 > Cc: 8634@debbugs.gnu.org > > "Drew Adams" writes: > > > `number-at-point' is defined like this: > > > > (defun number-at-point () > > "Return the number at point, or nil if none is found." > > (form-at-point 'sexp 'numberp)) > > > > That uses `read-from-string' for the sexp at point, and testing whether the > > result is `numberp'. > > > > That's fine, I guess, but it means that with buffer text such as ?A or ?\A-\^@ > > you get a non-nil result: the character value (wholenump) for ?A, which is 65, > > and 4194304, respectively. If you are depending on code to find _numerals_ in > > text and return their numeric values then this is not what you want. In that > > case, you want a function that returns nil when point is not on a numeral. > > Looks like this is fixed now. Are you saying that "M-: (number-at-point) RET" with point at ?A says "nil"? From unknown Sun Jun 15 13:01:48 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#8634: 24.0.50; `number-at-point' returns char value for `?' constructs - 1) doc, 2) new fns Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 01:07:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 8634 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: 8634@debbugs.gnu.org, drew.adams@oracle.com Received: via spool by 8634-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B8634.139199438725010 (code B ref 8634); Mon, 10 Feb 2014 01:07:01 +0000 Received: (at 8634) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Feb 2014 01:06:27 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:32869 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WCfKN-0006VK-5K for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2014 20:06:27 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:40532) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WCfKL-0006VB-Lj for 8634@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2014 20:06:26 -0500 Received: from [204.14.154.233] (helo=building.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WCfK6-0003Gh-L0; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 02:06:11 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen References: <458B95C58F7348C2AA62A340071C6E1C@us.oracle.com> <87lhxk7pjl.fsf@building.gnus.org> <83r47cuupv.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Sun, 09 Feb 2014 17:04:57 -0800 In-Reply-To: <83r47cuupv.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sun, 09 Feb 2014 18:17:00 +0200") Message-ID: <87fvnrzsjq.fsf@building.gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13001 (Ma Gnus v0.10) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1WCfK6-0003Gh-L0 X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1392599171.37201@V9Ne8iRIljG0IO5cJMjPDg X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Eli Zaretskii writes: > Are you saying that "M-: (number-at-point) RET" with point at ?A says > "nil"? Yes. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/ From unknown Sun Jun 15 13:01:48 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#8634: 24.0.50; `number-at-point' returns char value for `?' constructs - 1) doc, 2) new fns Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 01:21:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 8634 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Lars Ingebrigtsen , Eli Zaretskii Cc: 8634@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 8634-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B8634.139199525226453 (code B ref 8634); Mon, 10 Feb 2014 01:21:02 +0000 Received: (at 8634) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Feb 2014 01:20:52 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:32884 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WCfYK-0006sb-01 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2014 20:20:52 -0500 Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:31592) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WCfYI-0006sR-6O for 8634@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2014 20:20:50 -0500 Received: from acsinet22.oracle.com (acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id s1A1KlUC014004 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 10 Feb 2014 01:20:48 GMT Received: from aserz7021.oracle.com (aserz7021.oracle.com [141.146.126.230]) by acsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s1A1Kk2k014639 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 10 Feb 2014 01:20:47 GMT Received: from abhmp0005.oracle.com (abhmp0005.oracle.com [141.146.116.11]) by aserz7021.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s1A1KkYe023402; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 01:20:46 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <6edd7bd2-3e20-4e54-a555-72dc389ad47f@default> Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2014 17:20:44 -0800 (PST) From: Drew Adams References: <458B95C58F7348C2AA62A340071C6E1C@us.oracle.com> <87lhxk7pjl.fsf@building.gnus.org> <83r47cuupv.fsf@gnu.org> <87fvnrzsjq.fsf@building.gnus.org> In-Reply-To: <87fvnrzsjq.fsf@building.gnus.org> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.8 (707110) [OL 12.0.6680.5000 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Source-IP: acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238] X-Spam-Score: -2.9 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.9 (--) > > Are you saying that "M-: (number-at-point) RET" with point at ?A > > says "nil"? >=20 > Yes. I don't see that, in a build from 2014-02-07. Lars, are you sure you put point on the `?' in the text `?A', and not just on an isolated `A' in the text? This is about reading character literals. From unknown Sun Jun 15 13:01:48 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#8634: 24.0.50; `number-at-point' returns char value for `?' constructs - 1) doc, 2) new fns Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 02:23:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 8634 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Drew Adams Cc: 8634@debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 8634-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B8634.13919989414257 (code B ref 8634); Mon, 10 Feb 2014 02:23:01 +0000 Received: (at 8634) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Feb 2014 02:22:21 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:32968 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WCgVo-00016b-TQ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2014 21:22:21 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:34708) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WCgVm-00016S-IZ for 8634@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2014 21:22:19 -0500 Received: from [204.14.154.233] (helo=building.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WCgVX-0004G1-Nc; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 03:22:04 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen References: <458B95C58F7348C2AA62A340071C6E1C@us.oracle.com> <87lhxk7pjl.fsf@building.gnus.org> <83r47cuupv.fsf@gnu.org> <87fvnrzsjq.fsf@building.gnus.org> <6edd7bd2-3e20-4e54-a555-72dc389ad47f@default> Date: Sun, 09 Feb 2014 18:20:50 -0800 In-Reply-To: <6edd7bd2-3e20-4e54-a555-72dc389ad47f@default> (Drew Adams's message of "Sun, 9 Feb 2014 17:20:44 -0800 (PST)") Message-ID: <8761onzp19.fsf@building.gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13001 (Ma Gnus v0.10) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1WCgVX-0004G1-Nc X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1392603724.2629@+JWnzZUSH7A0FlHPT2koTQ X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Drew Adams writes: > I don't see that, in a build from 2014-02-07. Lars, are you sure > you put point on the `?' in the text `?A', and not just on an > isolated `A' in the text? This is about reading character > literals. Yeah, I put point on the ? in ?A, say M-: (number-at-point), and Emacs says "nil". This is on Fedora 19. But I take it that that's not what you and Eli are seeing? I'll reopen the bug. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/ From unknown Sun Jun 15 13:01:48 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#8634: 24.0.50; `number-at-point' returns char value for `?' constructs - 1) doc, 2) new fns Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 03:21:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 8634 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Cc: 8634@debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 8634-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B8634.139200241919550 (code B ref 8634); Mon, 10 Feb 2014 03:21:03 +0000 Received: (at 8634) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Feb 2014 03:20:19 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33130 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WChPu-00055F-OF for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2014 22:20:18 -0500 Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:19081) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WChPs-000556-8p for 8634@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2014 22:20:16 -0500 Received: from ucsinet21.oracle.com (ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id s1A3KEnw001922 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 10 Feb 2014 03:20:15 GMT Received: from aserz7021.oracle.com (aserz7021.oracle.com [141.146.126.230]) by ucsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s1A3KDPx010937 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 10 Feb 2014 03:20:14 GMT Received: from abhmp0005.oracle.com (abhmp0005.oracle.com [141.146.116.11]) by aserz7021.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s1A3KDuP012896; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 03:20:13 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <27817159-555b-47f3-8d36-43dbe625b56f@default> Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2014 19:20:10 -0800 (PST) From: Drew Adams References: <458B95C58F7348C2AA62A340071C6E1C@us.oracle.com> <87lhxk7pjl.fsf@building.gnus.org> <83r47cuupv.fsf@gnu.org> <87fvnrzsjq.fsf@building.gnus.org> <6edd7bd2-3e20-4e54-a555-72dc389ad47f@default> <8761onzp19.fsf@building.gnus.org> In-Reply-To: <8761onzp19.fsf@building.gnus.org> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.8 (707110) [OL 12.0.6680.5000 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Source-IP: ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93] X-Spam-Score: -2.9 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.9 (--) > > I don't see that, in a build from 2014-02-07. Lars, are you sure > > you put point on the `?' in the text `?A', and not just on an > > isolated `A' in the text? This is about reading character > > literals. >=20 > Yeah, I put point on the ? in ?A, say M-: (number-at-point), and > Emacs says "nil". OK, thanks for double-checking. Sounds like it might be a Windows bug. > This is on Fedora 19. > But I take it that that's not what you and Eli are seeing? I'll > reopen the bug. It's not what I see, at least. Thx. From unknown Sun Jun 15 13:01:48 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#8634: 24.0.50; `number-at-point' returns char value for `?' constructs - 1) doc, 2) new fns Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 03:42:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 8634 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Cc: 8634@debbugs.gnu.org, drew.adams@oracle.com Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 8634-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B8634.139200371926514 (code B ref 8634); Mon, 10 Feb 2014 03:42:01 +0000 Received: (at 8634) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Feb 2014 03:41:59 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33195 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WChkp-0006tU-Iq for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2014 22:41:59 -0500 Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]:51810) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WChkj-0006tF-0v for 8634@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2014 22:41:53 -0500 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0N0R00600FR5AN00@a-mtaout20.012.net.il> for 8634@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 05:41:47 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0N0R006HBGXMER10@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 05:41:47 +0200 (IST) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 05:41:30 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <87fvnrzsjq.fsf@building.gnus.org> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il Message-id: <83eh3bvdlh.fsf@gnu.org> References: <458B95C58F7348C2AA62A340071C6E1C@us.oracle.com> <87lhxk7pjl.fsf@building.gnus.org> <83r47cuupv.fsf@gnu.org> <87fvnrzsjq.fsf@building.gnus.org> X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) > From: Lars Ingebrigtsen > Cc: drew.adams@oracle.com, 8634@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Sun, 09 Feb 2014 17:04:57 -0800 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > Are you saying that "M-: (number-at-point) RET" with point at ?A says > > "nil"? > > Yes. Then we must be using a very different Emacs, or maybe the recipe is not what I think it is. For me, it still says "65", FWIW. From unknown Sun Jun 15 13:01:48 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#8634: 24.0.50; `number-at-point' returns char value for `?' constructs - 1) doc, 2) new fns Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 04:01:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 8634 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Drew Adams Cc: 8634@debbugs.gnu.org, larsi@gnus.org Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 8634-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B8634.13920048121508 (code B ref 8634); Mon, 10 Feb 2014 04:01:01 +0000 Received: (at 8634) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Feb 2014 04:00:12 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33302 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WCi2V-0000NL-Ns for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2014 23:00:12 -0500 Received: from mtaout26.012.net.il ([80.179.55.182]:51823) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WCi2T-0000IJ-2m for 8634@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2014 23:00:10 -0500 Received: from conversion-daemon.mtaout26.012.net.il by mtaout26.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0N0R00700HCV5Z00@mtaout26.012.net.il> for 8634@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 05:58:49 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by mtaout26.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0N0R004AIHQ0P130@mtaout26.012.net.il>; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 05:58:48 +0200 (IST) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 05:59:51 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <27817159-555b-47f3-8d36-43dbe625b56f@default> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il Message-id: <83a9dzvcqw.fsf@gnu.org> References: <458B95C58F7348C2AA62A340071C6E1C@us.oracle.com> <87lhxk7pjl.fsf@building.gnus.org> <83r47cuupv.fsf@gnu.org> <87fvnrzsjq.fsf@building.gnus.org> <6edd7bd2-3e20-4e54-a555-72dc389ad47f@default> <8761onzp19.fsf@building.gnus.org> <27817159-555b-47f3-8d36-43dbe625b56f@default> X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) > Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2014 19:20:10 -0800 (PST) > From: Drew Adams > Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 8634@debbugs.gnu.org > > > > I don't see that, in a build from 2014-02-07. Lars, are you sure > > > you put point on the `?' in the text `?A', and not just on an > > > isolated `A' in the text? This is about reading character > > > literals. > > > > Yeah, I put point on the ? in ?A, say M-: (number-at-point), and > > Emacs says "nil". > > OK, thanks for double-checking. Sounds like it might be a Windows > bug. No, it's not Windows specific, because I see this on this machine: Linux fencepost.gnu.org 2.6.32-48-server #1trisquel3 SMP Mon Jun 17 20:00:36 UTC 2013 x86_64 GNU/Linux From unknown Sun Jun 15 13:01:48 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#8634: 24.0.50; `number-at-point' returns char value for `?' constructs - 1) doc, 2) new fns Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 04:02:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 8634 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: 8634@debbugs.gnu.org, drew.adams@oracle.com Received: via spool by 8634-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B8634.13920048705313 (code B ref 8634); Mon, 10 Feb 2014 04:02:01 +0000 Received: (at 8634) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Feb 2014 04:01:10 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33306 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WCi3O-0001Na-HA for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2014 23:01:10 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:56646) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WCi3I-0001If-3X for 8634@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2014 23:01:03 -0500 Received: from [204.14.154.233] (helo=building.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WCi32-0005Z4-GS; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 05:00:44 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen References: <458B95C58F7348C2AA62A340071C6E1C@us.oracle.com> <87lhxk7pjl.fsf@building.gnus.org> <83r47cuupv.fsf@gnu.org> <87fvnrzsjq.fsf@building.gnus.org> <83eh3bvdlh.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Sun, 09 Feb 2014 19:59:31 -0800 In-Reply-To: <83eh3bvdlh.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Mon, 10 Feb 2014 05:41:30 +0200") Message-ID: <87iosnehy4.fsf@building.gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13001 (Ma Gnus v0.10) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1WCi32-0005Z4-GS X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1392609644.95722@cRhTQ0rBtuEAOtjRf7iIkw X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Lars Ingebrigtsen >> Cc: drew.adams@oracle.com, 8634@debbugs.gnu.org >> Date: Sun, 09 Feb 2014 17:04:57 -0800 >> >> Eli Zaretskii writes: >> >> > Are you saying that "M-: (number-at-point) RET" with point at ?A says >> > "nil"? >> >> Yes. > > Then we must be using a very different Emacs, or maybe the recipe is > not what I think it is. For me, it still says "65", FWIW. I just tried saying the same in the *scratch* buffer, and there it returns 65! Here in the Message buffer it returns nil. It does in a fundamental-mode buffer, too... ---- number-at-point is an autoloaded compiled Lisp function in `thingatpt.el'. (number-at-point) Return the number at point, or nil if none is found. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/ From unknown Sun Jun 15 13:01:48 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#8634: 24.0.50; `number-at-point' returns char value for `?' constructs - 1) doc, 2) new fns Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 04:07:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 8634 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Lars Ingebrigtsen , Eli Zaretskii Cc: 8634@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 8634-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B8634.13920052105879 (code B ref 8634); Mon, 10 Feb 2014 04:07:01 +0000 Received: (at 8634) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Feb 2014 04:06:50 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33318 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WCi8w-0001Wk-1i for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2014 23:06:50 -0500 Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:41131) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WCi8t-0001Wa-Di for 8634@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2014 23:06:48 -0500 Received: from ucsinet22.oracle.com (ucsinet22.oracle.com [156.151.31.94]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id s1A46kW9004268 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 10 Feb 2014 04:06:46 GMT Received: from userz7021.oracle.com (userz7021.oracle.com [156.151.31.85]) by ucsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.5+Sun/8.14.5) with ESMTP id s1A46jba006584 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Mon, 10 Feb 2014 04:06:46 GMT Received: from abhmp0005.oracle.com (abhmp0005.oracle.com [141.146.116.11]) by userz7021.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s1A46jdu015847; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 04:06:45 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <444a1561-7d78-4d58-a2c3-8b4c7858071d@default> Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2014 20:06:42 -0800 (PST) From: Drew Adams References: <458B95C58F7348C2AA62A340071C6E1C@us.oracle.com> <87lhxk7pjl.fsf@building.gnus.org> <83r47cuupv.fsf@gnu.org> <87fvnrzsjq.fsf@building.gnus.org> <83eh3bvdlh.fsf@gnu.org> <87iosnehy4.fsf@building.gnus.org> In-Reply-To: <87iosnehy4.fsf@building.gnus.org> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.8 (707110) [OL 12.0.6680.5000 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Source-IP: ucsinet22.oracle.com [156.151.31.94] X-Spam-Score: -2.9 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.9 (--) > I just tried saying the same in the *scratch* buffer, and there it > returns 65! >=20 > Here in the Message buffer it returns nil. It does in a > fundamental-mode buffer, too... Sounds like we might be getting somewhere now. Something in certain buffers causes `number-at-point' to do the wrong thing. From unknown Sun Jun 15 13:01:48 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#8634: 24.0.50; `number-at-point' returns char value for `?' constructs - 1) doc, 2) new fns Resent-From: Nicolas Richard Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 14:28:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 8634 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Drew Adams Cc: 8634@debbugs.gnu.org, Lars Ingebrigtsen , Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 8634-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B8634.139204245324717 (code B ref 8634); Mon, 10 Feb 2014 14:28:02 +0000 Received: (at 8634) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Feb 2014 14:27:33 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39368 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WCrpc-0006Qa-EJ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 09:27:32 -0500 Received: from mxin.ulb.ac.be ([164.15.128.112]:16226) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WCrpZ-0006QL-MP for 8634@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 09:27:30 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ap4EANPg+FKkD4Xx/2dsb2JhbABZw1iBJnSCJQEBBAF5EAgDISUPAQRJE4dwAQwIqUaWZwGJHReHcocLB4Q4BJgrhjGLcIFvgT87 Received: from mathsrv4.ulb.ac.be (HELO geodiff-mac3) ([164.15.133.241]) by smtp.ulb.ac.be with ESMTP; 10 Feb 2014 15:27:27 +0100 From: Nicolas Richard References: <458B95C58F7348C2AA62A340071C6E1C@us.oracle.com> <87lhxk7pjl.fsf@building.gnus.org> <83r47cuupv.fsf@gnu.org> <87fvnrzsjq.fsf@building.gnus.org> <83eh3bvdlh.fsf@gnu.org> <87iosnehy4.fsf@building.gnus.org> <444a1561-7d78-4d58-a2c3-8b4c7858071d@default> Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 15:27:27 +0100 In-Reply-To: <444a1561-7d78-4d58-a2c3-8b4c7858071d@default> (Drew Adams's message of "Sun, 9 Feb 2014 20:06:42 -0800 (PST)") Message-ID: <87d2ivavqo.fsf@yahoo.fr> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) Drew Adams writes: >> I just tried saying the same in the *scratch* buffer, and there it >> returns 65! >> >> Here in the Message buffer it returns nil. It does in a >> fundamental-mode buffer, too... > > Sounds like we might be getting somewhere now. Something in > certain buffers causes `number-at-point' to do the wrong thing. That is because number-at-point uses the 'sexp at point, which depends on the syntax table. The following definition seems to fix that dependance (500 is arbitrary choice -- the same arbitrary choice as for emails) : diff --git a/lisp/thingatpt.el b/lisp/thingatpt.el index 9a40049..7b4cf56 100644 --- a/lisp/thingatpt.el +++ b/lisp/thingatpt.el @@ -581,7 +581,10 @@ Signal an error if the entire string was not used." ;;;###autoload (defun number-at-point () "Return the number at point, or nil if none is found." - (form-at-point 'sexp 'numberp)) + (when (thing-at-point-looking-at "-?[0-9]+\\.?[0-9]*" 500) + (string-to-number + (buffer-substring (match-beginning 0) (match-end 0))))) + (put 'number 'thing-at-point 'number-at-point) ;;;###autoload (defun list-at-point () -- Nico. From unknown Sun Jun 15 13:01:48 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#8634: 24.0.50; `number-at-point' returns char value for `?' constructs - 1) doc, 2) new fns Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2016 10:39:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 8634 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Nicolas Richard Cc: 8634@debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii , Drew Adams Received: via spool by 8634-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B8634.14618399396304 (code B ref 8634); Thu, 28 Apr 2016 10:39:02 +0000 Received: (at 8634) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Apr 2016 10:38:59 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51262 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1avjLX-0001dc-Jm for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 28 Apr 2016 06:38:59 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:34864) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1avjLV-0001dT-SE for 8634@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 28 Apr 2016 06:38:58 -0400 Received: from cm-84.215.1.64.getinternet.no ([84.215.1.64] helo=mouse) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1avjLS-0000hu-MH; Thu, 28 Apr 2016 12:38:56 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen References: <458B95C58F7348C2AA62A340071C6E1C@us.oracle.com> <87lhxk7pjl.fsf@building.gnus.org> <83r47cuupv.fsf@gnu.org> <87fvnrzsjq.fsf@building.gnus.org> <83eh3bvdlh.fsf@gnu.org> <87iosnehy4.fsf@building.gnus.org> <444a1561-7d78-4d58-a2c3-8b4c7858071d@default> <87d2ivavqo.fsf@yahoo.fr> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2016 12:38:54 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87d2ivavqo.fsf@yahoo.fr> (Nicolas Richard's message of "Mon, 10 Feb 2014 15:27:27 +0100") Message-ID: <87r3dqow5d.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Nicolas Richard writes: > The following definition seems to fix that dependance (500 is arbitrary > choice -- the same arbitrary choice as for emails) : > > diff --git a/lisp/thingatpt.el b/lisp/thingatpt.el > index 9a40049..7b4cf56 100644 > --- a/lisp/thingatpt.el > +++ b/lisp/thingatpt.el > @@ -581,7 +581,10 @@ Signal an error if the entire string was not used." > ;;;###autoload > (defun number-at-point () > "Return the number at point, or nil if none is found." > - (form-at-point 'sexp 'numberp)) > + (when (thing-at-point-looking-at "-?[0-9]+\\.?[0-9]*" 500) > + (string-to-number > + (buffer-substring (match-beginning 0) (match-end 0))))) > + > (put 'number 'thing-at-point 'number-at-point) > ;;;###autoload > (defun list-at-point () Thanks; applied to the trunk. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Apr 28 06:39:06 2016 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Apr 2016 10:39:06 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51266 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1avjLd-0001eJ-RY for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 28 Apr 2016 06:39:06 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:34880) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1avjLc-0001eB-Ne for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 28 Apr 2016 06:39:05 -0400 Received: from cm-84.215.1.64.getinternet.no ([84.215.1.64] helo=mouse) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1avjLa-0000iB-Lb for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 28 Apr 2016 12:39:04 +0200 Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2016 12:39:02 +0200 Message-Id: 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change X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -7.9 (-------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -7.9 (-------) # Ref: # http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2016-11/msg00238.html # http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2016-09/msg00692.html # http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2016-01/msg01215.html # Some attempt has been made to check for things backported after the fact. # Erring on the side of a later version number seems preferable anyway. unarchive 10 fixed 10 26.1 notfixed 10 25.2 unarchive 96 fixed 96 26.1 notfixed 96 25.2 unarchive 1149 fixed 1149 26.1 notfixed 1149 25.2 unarchive 1150 fixed 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