From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Apr 27 00:02:17 2011 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Apr 2011 04:02:17 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QEvxA-0002mH-Jt for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 27 Apr 2011 00:02:16 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QEvx8-0002m4-O9 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 27 Apr 2011 00:02:15 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QEvwz-0006iH-Ov for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 27 Apr 2011 00:02:09 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW, RFC_ABUSE_POST, T_DKIM_INVALID, T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.1 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]:34725) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QEvwz-0006iD-NO for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 27 Apr 2011 00:02:05 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:53666) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QEvwy-00074Q-Jy for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Apr 2011 00:02:05 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QEvwp-0006as-Bx for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Apr 2011 00:02:04 -0400 Received: from mail-pv0-f169.google.com ([74.125.83.169]:57614) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QEvwp-0006al-0L for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Apr 2011 00:01:55 -0400 Received: by pvc12 with SMTP id 12so1354952pvc.0 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2011 21:01:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:from:to:subject:x-debbugs-cc:date:message-id :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=jTn7Gh947jpPWi0aQqOSgZ0oandi5GLJNvlV8w82g8c=; b=wBxsOf2xeYZYo2Fi/Heube/1zb4aZEGIikw31t4w9WejFODajDqqJ0+85Tuc6RcApi Yd+BVak2O/E7JftUXIWaHVVVl5F2Srat8AtzFNdBAHsEP6XCkpK5RMn69/taKrq4htVY aY2GZIGZM1YD+/4tJySZ59R1if6MyBy9d28/Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:x-debbugs-cc:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=bxhaDWqnLj4a0JmZthfdcL6qafQizUteIuuubxGUrrzWE21amAR8BEnYw1MalP2vNF O5DO/cT7/NwELiCCD5nnPJys0ytY8Ou892qw6Zv4mZ4cyBeBwKmAqwVsq6BDn5zUgL9B tRoegvRj40OEktEDOt+TLr/DKlu4QUaoxDcaU= Received: by 10.68.48.35 with SMTP id i3mr1691171pbn.119.1303876913550; Tue, 26 Apr 2011 21:01:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (office.cyber.com.au [203.7.155.20]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id q2sm292087pbk.49.2011.04.26.21.01.51 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 26 Apr 2011 21:01:53 -0700 (PDT) From: trentbuck@gmail.com (Trent W. Buck) To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 24.0.50; TeX IM \aleph should insert math aleph, not Hebrew aleph X-Debbugs-Cc: rfrancoise@debian.org Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 14:01:47 +1000 Message-ID: <87pqo8tk9g.fsf@cyber.com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.17 X-Spam-Score: -5.5 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -5.5 (-----) When I select the TeX input method (^X^M^\TeX^M) then insert an aleph (\aleph), it inserts a hebrew aleph (=D7=90, D790 HEBREW LETTER ALEF). Since the TeX IM is probably being used for math (cf. a hebraic IM), it should instead insert the math codepoint (=E2=84=B5, E284B5, ALEF SYMBOL). The current behaviour caused a problem in IRC, because another user's IRC client (xchat 2.8.6) assumed that hebrew should be rendered right-to-left, so instead of aleph-null, he saw null-aleph. This did not happen when he was sent the ALEF SYMBOL codepoint. 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Buck) Message-id: <838vuv8m72.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il References: <87pqo8tk9g.fsf@cyber.com.au> X-Spam-Score: -1.8 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 8563-done Cc: 8563-done@debbugs.gnu.org, rfrancoise@debian.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.8 (-) > From: trentbuck@gmail.com (Trent W. Buck) > Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 14:01:47 +1000 > Cc: rfrancoise@debian.org >=20 > When I select the TeX input method (^X^M^\TeX^M) then insert an ale= ph > (\aleph), it inserts a hebrew aleph (=D7=90, D790 HEBREW LETTER ALE= F). >=20 > Since the TeX IM is probably being used for math (cf. a hebraic IM)= , it > should instead insert the math codepoint (=E2=84=B5, E284B5, ALEF S= YMBOL). Thanks for pointing this out. I fixed this on the emacs-23 branch, i= t should be merged to the trunk in a few days. 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Buck" To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#8563: 24.0.50; TeX IM \aleph should insert math aleph, not Hebrew aleph Message-ID: <20110427233113.GA15505@dali> References: <87pqo8tk9g.fsf@cyber.com.au> <838vuv8m72.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <838vuv8m72.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Spam-Score: -3.7 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 8563 Cc: rfrancoise@debian.org, 8563@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -3.7 (---) Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > From: trentbuck@gmail.com (Trent W. Buck) > > Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 14:01:47 +1000 > > Cc: rfrancoise@debian.org > > > > When I select the TeX input method (^X^M^\TeX^M) then insert an aleph > > (\aleph), it inserts a hebrew aleph (א, D790 HEBREW LETTER ALEF). > > > > Since the TeX IM is probably being used for math (cf. a hebraic IM), it > > should instead insert the math codepoint (ℵ, E284B5, ALEF SYMBOL). > > Thanks for pointing this out. I fixed this on the emacs-23 branch, it > should be merged to the trunk in a few days. Note that this may not be the only instance. Someone sufficiently bored could go through the whole list of TeX IM-inserted codepoints and look for math versions - dunno if that's the Right Thing. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Apr 28 13:22:52 2011 Received: (at 8563-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Apr 2011 17:22:54 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QFUvU-0006Y9-Le for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 28 Apr 2011 13:22:52 -0400 Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QFUvS-0006Xr-85 for 8563-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 28 Apr 2011 13:22:51 -0400 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0LKD00J00HCQJZ00@a-mtaout20.012.net.il> for 8563-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 28 Apr 2011 20:22:29 +0300 (IDT) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([77.124.82.135]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0LKD00IVUHLBPAE0@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Thu, 28 Apr 2011 20:22:24 +0300 (IDT) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 20:22:23 +0300 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#8563: 24.0.50; TeX IM \aleph should insert math aleph, not Hebrew aleph In-reply-to: <20110427233113.GA15505@dali> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: "Trent W. Buck" Message-id: <8339l28f5c.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87pqo8tk9g.fsf@cyber.com.au> <838vuv8m72.fsf@gnu.org> <20110427233113.GA15505@dali> X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 8563-done Cc: 8563-done@debbugs.gnu.org, rfrancoise@debian.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) > Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 09:31:15 +1000 > From: "Trent W. Buck" > Cc: 8563@debbugs.gnu.org, rfrancoise@debian.org > > Note that this may not be the only instance. Someone sufficiently > bored could go through the whole list of TeX IM-inserted codepoints > and look for math versions - dunno if that's the Right Thing. I'm not sufficiently bored, but I did the same with \beth, \gimel, and \daleth. I didn't find anything else obvious. 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