GNU bug report logs - #8545
issues with recent doprnt-related changes

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Message #105 received at 8545 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Paul Eggert <eggert <at> cs.ucla.edu>
To: rms <at> gnu.org
Cc: lekktu <at> gmail.com, 8545 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#8545: issues with recent doprnt-related changes
Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2011 22:41:38 -0700

On 04/30/11 14:03, Richard Stallman wrote:
>        long
>        foo (char *p, int i)
>        {
>          return &p[i + 1] - &p[i];
>        }
> ...
> i+1 is computed as an integer, but then it gets converted to a long.

Unfortunately that doesn't explain FOO's behavior.

If i+1 is computed as an int and if wraparound is required, then
when i is INT_MAX, i+1 must be INT_MIN.  (FOO does not convert
i+1 to long; but even if it did, INT_MIN's value would be unchanged by
that conversion.)  If p is pointing into a large array, &p[INT_MIN]
and &p[INT_MAX] can both be valid addresses, and in that case
foo (p, INT_MAX) would have to yield -2**32 + 1 on a typical 64-bit host
where signed integer arithmetic wrapped around.

But in my experience no compiler does it that way.  FOO always returns 1.


> What happens here seems to be an issue about type conversion combined
> with addition -- not addition itself.

I'm afraid not.  First, FOO doesn't have any type conversions.
If I is an int, A[I] doesn't convert I to any other type; it
simply uses I's value without conversion.

Second, it's easy to construct an example that involves only "int":

   int
   bar (int i)
   {
     return i < i + 1;
   }

With many compilers, BAR always returns 1, even when i == INT_MAX.


> These compilers are taking a strange liberty.
> Why isn't that a bug?

Well, for starters, most programmers *expect* FOO to return 1,
and similarly for BAR.  Why would a programmer file a bug report
when the program is behaving as expected?


>     printf ("%d", INT_MAX+1);
> will output INT_MIN.

That's true for all systems I have ready access to, yes.  And I
expect there are other cases where int arithmetic wraps around
reliably.  But there are many practical cases where it doesn't.
We cannot simply advise programmers to assume that adding 1
to INT_MAX always results in INT_MIN, as that assumption is
often incorrect nowadays.

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