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24.0.50; doc-view: allow pdftotext -layout instead of -raw

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From: trentbuck <at> gmail.com (Trent W. Buck)
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 24.0.50; doc-view: allow pdftotext -layout instead of -raw
Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 19:23:36 +1000

doc-view supports using pdftotext on ttys.
Unfortunately it is hard-coded to pass -raw.
I would prefer to pass -layout.

Please modify doc-view to allow me to support something like

    (setq doc-view-pdftotext-program-args '("-layout" "-nopgbrk"))

FYI, my pdftotext manpage says -raw is discouraged:

       -layout

              Maintain (as best as possible) the original physical
              layout of the text.  The default is to =b4undo' physical
              layout (columns, hyphenation, etc.)  and output the text
              in reading order.

       -raw   Keep the text in content stream order.  This is a hack
              which often "undoes" column formatting, etc.  Use of raw
              mode is no longer recommended.


In GNU Emacs 24.0.50.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu)
 of 2010-12-14 on elegiac, modified by Debian
 (emacs-snapshot package, version 1:20101212-2)
configured using `configure  '--build' 'x86_64-linux-gnu' '--host' 'x86_64-linux-gnu' '--prefix=/usr' '--sharedstatedir=/var/lib' '--libexecdir=/usr/lib' '--localstatedir=/var' '--infodir=/usr/share/info' '--mandir=/usr/share/man' '--with-pop=yes' '--enable-locallisppath=/etc/emacs-snapshot:/etc/emacs:/usr/local/share/emacs/24.0.50/site-lisp:/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/24.0.50/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp' '--without-compress-info' '--with-x=no' '--without-dbus' '--without-sound' 'build_alias=x86_64-linux-gnu' 'host_alias=x86_64-linux-gnu' 'CFLAGS=-DDEBIAN -DSITELOAD_PURESIZE_EXTRA=5000 -g -O2' 'LDFLAGS=-g -Wl,--as-needed' 'CPPFLAGS=''

Important settings:
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Major mode: Man

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Copying /scpc:soy:/cyber/tmp/split-handshake.pdf to /tmp/tramp.24520Pw.pdf...done
Tramp: Inserting local temp file `/tmp/tramp.24520Pw.pdf'...done
Wrote /tmp/docview1000/split-handshake.pdf
No PNG support is available, or some conversion utility for pdf files is missing.
Unable to render file.  View extracted text instead? (y or n)  y
Invoking man pdftotext in the background
Please wait: formatting the pdftotext man page...
pdftotext man page formatted
Mark saved where search started
call-interactively: End of buffer [2 times]

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Message #8 received at 8519 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Juri Linkov <juri <at> jurta.org>
To: 8519 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: 24.0.50; doc-view: allow pdftotext -layout instead of -raw
Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2011 00:57:45 +0300

> doc-view supports using pdftotext on ttys.
> Unfortunately it is hard-coded to pass -raw.
> I would prefer to pass -layout.
>
> Please modify doc-view to allow me to support something like
>
>     (setq doc-view-pdftotext-program-args '("-layout" "-nopgbrk"))

I came across the same need and found this bug report.

I think doc-view should also support other free software
that processes PDF files:

1. pdftk

pdftk is able to extract the PDF metadata (title, author, bookmarks, etc.),
e.g.

    pdftk file1.pdf dump_data output file1.txt

So for a large PDF document, doc-view could present the
Table of Contents where the user can navigate to the selected page,
and then convert only displayed pages instead of all pages
that is terribly slow for a 1000-page document.

pdftk also can prepare the PDF text for editing in emacs.
From `man pdftk':

  -compress useful when you want to edit PDF code
            in a text editor like vim or emacs.

   Uncompress PDF page streams for editing the PDF
   in a text editor (e.g., vim, emacs):

       pdftk doc.pdf output doc.unc.pdf uncompress

This feature could be used after typing `C-c C-c'.

Since pdftk is dependent on Java, doc-view should not require it
and should be able to detect the installed PDF processing programs
(with e.g. `(executable-find "pdftk")') and select one of them
according to the user's priority list.

2. A better program is `qpdf'. It has no problems mentioned above.
So doc-view should also detect the availability of
`(executable-find "qpdf")' as well and provide the same option for its
command line arguments (and use all features relevant to doc-view).

3. Using the PDF rendering library `poppler,' it's possible
to implement in Emacs a PDF viewer like `apvlv' for Vim.

Message #11 received at 8519 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: trentbuck <at> gmail.com (Trent W. Buck)
Cc: rfrancoise <at> debian.org, 8519 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#8519: 24.0.50; doc-view: allow pdftotext -layout instead of
 -raw
Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2019 14:26:46 +0200

trentbuck <at> gmail.com (Trent W. Buck) writes:

> doc-view supports using pdftotext on ttys.
> Unfortunately it is hard-coded to pass -raw.
> I would prefer to pass -layout.
>
> Please modify doc-view to allow me to support something like
>
>     (setq doc-view-pdftotext-program-args '("-layout" "-nopgbrk"))

Makes sense; I've now added this to Emacs 27.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no

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