From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Apr 12 02:39:21 2011 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Apr 2011 06:39:21 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q9XFv-0004mP-Nj for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Apr 2011 02:39:20 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q9W1X-000353-1R for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Apr 2011 01:20:24 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q9W1Q-0007Um-DD for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Apr 2011 01:20:17 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.1 Received: from [140.186.70.17] (port=58553 helo=lists.gnu.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q9W1Q-0007Ug-Av for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Apr 2011 01:20:16 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:55744) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q9W1O-0000a7-Np for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Apr 2011 01:20:16 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q9W1M-0007SA-0M for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Apr 2011 01:20:14 -0400 Received: from janus.meme.com ([69.17.73.118]:43898 helo=smtp.meme.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q9W1L-0007RO-Jp for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Apr 2011 01:20:11 -0400 Received: by smtp.meme.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 068371FF07; Tue, 12 Apr 2011 00:14:14 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mofo.meme.com (unknown [192.168.1.2]) by smtp.meme.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18AFE1FEF8; Tue, 12 Apr 2011 00:14:12 -0500 (CDT) Received: by mofo.meme.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B4F0643D21; Tue, 12 Apr 2011 00:14:12 -0500 (CDT) From: kop@meme.com (Karl O. Pinc) To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 23.2; Emacs 23.1 flushes stdin on startup Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 00:14:12 -0500 Message-ID: <87k4f06ogr.fsf@mofo.meme.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.17 X-Spam-Score: -6.6 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 02:39:19 -0400 Cc: "David F. Skoll" X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.6 (------) Hi, When I start emacs with "emacs -nw" emacs flushes stdin -- I cannot type while emacs is starting and expect emacs to pick up what I type. Usually I'm typing C-x,C-f,C-a and so forth to open a file. Note that I don't see stdin being flushed with "emacs -Q -nw" or with "emacs -q -nw" -- or so it seems, perhaps I don't type fast enough. I did not have problems with emacs22 flushing stdin. This is annoying because I almost always start emacs whenever I ssh to another host, when I (re)start work on a project, and so forth. I start emacs at least several times a day. Some of the boxes I work with are quite limited in resources and I've been able to generate quite a bit of typeahead while emacs is starting. I don't want to have to put my brain on hold while emacs starts. At least one other person has found it annoying as well. See this thread on help-gnu-emacs: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-gnu-emacs/2009-08/msg00134.html The thread appears to point out the source of the problem and gives indications of what might be done to fix it. I have since contacted the author of the email which started the thread and he has been unable to solve the problem even with the help supplied him by help-gnu-emacs. FYI, I see nothing in http://bzr.savannah.gnu.org/lh/emacs/emacs-23/annotate/head:/etc/PROBLEMS or http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/emacs-faq.text, section 6 regarding this problem. Thanks for the software. 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29 Jan 2012 05:15:46 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42803 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RrN7A-00057A-Kg for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2012 00:15:45 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:54885 ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RrN78-000571-3M for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2012 00:15:43 -0500 Received: from bb121-7-229-69.singnet.com.sg ([121.7.229.69]:46549 helo=furball) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RrN74-00063m-JX for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2012 00:15:39 -0500 From: Chong Yidong To: control@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: merge 6758 8482 Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2012 13:15:31 +0800 Message-ID: <871uqj6qdo.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) merge 6758 8482 thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Mar 29 23:52:11 2012 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Mar 2012 03:52:11 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45709 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SDSsK-0007zS-8S for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 29 Mar 2012 23:52:11 -0400 Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181]:8365) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SDSrq-0007yk-9A; Thu, 29 Mar 2012 23:51:41 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AicFAKU/KE9MCqRV/2dsb2JhbACBX5x7eYhwnhmGGQSbGYQJ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.73,1,1325480400"; d="scan'208";a="170644560" Received: from 76-10-164-85.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO fmsmemgm.homelinux.net) ([76.10.164.85]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 29 Mar 2012 23:19:43 -0400 Received: by fmsmemgm.homelinux.net (Postfix, from userid 20848) id E14A2AE14B; Thu, 29 Mar 2012 23:19:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Stefan Monnier To: Vincent Lefevre Subject: Re: bug#11129: 23.4; garbage inserted at the beginning of the buffer when starting Emacs in a terminal on a remote machine Message-ID: References: <87k422hok3.fsf@xvii.vinc17.org> <20120330020543.GF8851@xvii.vinc17.org> Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 23:19:42 -0400 In-Reply-To: <20120330020543.GF8851@xvii.vinc17.org> (Vincent Lefevre's message of "Fri, 30 Mar 2012 04:05:43 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.94 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control Cc: 11129@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) forcemerge 6758 11129 thanks >> Start "emacs -Q" on a remote machine with a slow connection, well... >> a high latency (e.g. ADSL during a file transfer). > [...] > Actually Emacs should be run in an xterm (after connecting to a > remote machine by ssh). It's a known problem. You can work around it by setting xterm-extra-capabilities to t or nil. 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