From unknown Mon Jun 23 16:45:35 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#8400 <8400@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#8400 <8400@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: 24.0.50; Strange selection behavior in Gnus Article buffer Reply-To: bug#8400 <8400@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2025 23:45:35 +0000 retitle 8400 24.0.50; Strange selection behavior in Gnus Article buffer reassign 8400 emacs submitter 8400 Stephen Berman severity 8400 minor tag 8400 patch thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Mar 31 18:05:29 2011 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 Mar 2011 22:05:30 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q5Pzc-0004uC-TP for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 31 Mar 2011 18:05:29 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q5PzW-0004tw-Bs for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 31 Mar 2011 18:05:27 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q5PzQ-0007pO-C7 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 31 Mar 2011 18:05:17 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD,T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.1 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]:46059) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q5PzQ-0007pK-9v for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 31 Mar 2011 18:05:16 -0400 Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=47925 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Q5PzP-0005NE-D7 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Mar 2011 18:05:16 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q5PzO-0007p4-B0 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Mar 2011 18:05:15 -0400 Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net ([213.165.64.22]:36890) by eggs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q5PzN-0007ox-VH for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Mar 2011 18:05:14 -0400 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 31 Mar 2011 22:05:11 -0000 Received: from i59F56DC0.versanet.de (EHLO escher.home) [89.245.109.192] by mail.gmx.net (mp036) with SMTP; 01 Apr 2011 00:05:11 +0200 X-Authenticated: #20778731 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18bDSlJojgbxfusbERf3rg4n6YggcA6law4sN5spO bCClO/ZKPIWPQY Received: by escher.home (Postfix, from userid 1000) id CF4646394B; Fri, 1 Apr 2011 00:05:10 +0200 (CEST) From: Stephen Berman To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 24.0.50; Strange selection behavior in Gnus Article buffer Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2011 00:05:10 +0200 Message-ID: <87fwq30wvd.fsf@escher.fritz.box> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 199.232.76.165 X-Spam-Score: -4.6 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.6 (----) 1. emacs -Q 2. Carry out the steps in NEWS to return to the pre-24 selection behavior: Change `mouse-drag-copy-region' to t. Change `x-select-enable-primary' to t. Change `x-select-enable-clipboard' to nil. 3. M-x gnus, answer y to continue to the Group buffer despite no server being found, then type `B f' to browse a foreign server, e.g. news.gmane.org, select a group and open an article. 4. In the Article buffer select some text (it doesn't matter whether by double clicking with mouse-1 or by the keyboard, though if the latter then after selecting point should at the end of the selection to have the same situation as when selecting by the mouse). 5. Type `M-w'. 6. Switch to a writable buffer, and type `C-y'. => The yanked text is not the selection from step 4, but -- if the selection was made from text following the article headers -- a region of the Article buffer ending at the start of the selection and beginning either just below the last header line, or possibly including one or more header lines; if the selection is within the headers, the yanked text is the region beginning at the start of the selection and ending just below the headers. If you type `M-y' after step 6, then the yanked text is replaced by the text selected in step 4. If step 5 is omitted, C-y in step 6 yanks the selected text as usual. I have only observed this selection behavior in Gnus Article buffers, and there it is reliably reproducible. (I have observed it for some time, probably since the new selection changes were introduced, but didn't try to find a reproducible recipe till now.) In GNU Emacs 24.0.50.1 (i686-suse-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.20.1) of 2011-03-30 on escher Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.10800000 configured using `configure '--without-toolkit-scroll-bars' 'CFLAGS=-g -O2 -fno-optimize-sibling-calls'' Important settings: value of $LC_ALL: nil value of $LC_COLLATE: nil value of $LC_CTYPE: nil value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil value of $LC_MONETARY: nil value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil value of $LC_TIME: nil value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8 value of $XMODIFIERS: @im=local locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix default enable-multibyte-characters: t From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Mar 31 20:44:23 2011 Received: (at 8400) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Apr 2011 00:44:24 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q5STP-0008P9-6J for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 31 Mar 2011 20:44:23 -0400 Received: from harpegolden.net ([65.99.215.13]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q5STN-0008Ow-LO for 8400@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 31 Mar 2011 20:44:22 -0400 Received: from [87.198.55.209] (87-198-55-209.ptr.magnet.ie [87.198.55.209]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "David De La Harpe Golden", Issuer "David De La Harpe Golden Personal CA rev 3" (verified OK)) by harpegolden.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5CACE683D8; Fri, 1 Apr 2011 01:44:15 +0100 (IST) Message-ID: <4D951FDD.1070105@harpegolden.net> Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2011 01:44:13 +0100 From: David De La Harpe Golden User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.16) Gecko/20110307 Icedove/3.0.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stephen Berman Subject: Re: bug#8400: 24.0.50; Strange selection behavior in Gnus Article buffer References: <87fwq30wvd.fsf@escher.fritz.box> In-Reply-To: <87fwq30wvd.fsf@escher.fritz.box> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 8400 Cc: 8400@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) On 31/03/11 23:05, Stephen Berman wrote: > 1. emacs -Q > 2. Carry out the steps in NEWS to return to the pre-24 selection behavi= or: > Change `mouse-drag-copy-region' to t. > Change `x-select-enable-primary' to t. > Change `x-select-enable-clipboard' to nil. Please try: (setq select-active-regions nil mouse-drag-copy-region t x-select-enable-primary t x-select-enable-clipboard nil) (global-set-key [mouse-2] 'mouse-yank-at-click) I'm not saying there isn't a real issue, what you describe does sound a=20 bit similar to a problem that occasionally occurred with the new=20 settings (without any changes to them) a while back, but please try with=20 the above settings, which are AFAIK still* (whatever the NEWS file may=20 currently say) the actual current recipe to restore the old behaviour=20 (except on windows) - if you only did precisely what you said in your=20 2., then AFAIK you were running with a doom-laden mix of old and new=20 settings. * bearing in mind I'm only beginning a personal catchup on about 3=C2=BD=20 months of emacs developments. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Apr 01 04:49:10 2011 Received: (at 8400) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Apr 2011 08:49:10 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q5a2X-00022z-Oe for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 01 Apr 2011 04:49:10 -0400 Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net ([213.165.64.23]) by debbugs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q5a2S-00022S-1K for 8400@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 01 Apr 2011 04:49:08 -0400 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 01 Apr 2011 08:48:58 -0000 Received: from i59F56141.versanet.de (EHLO escher.home) [89.245.97.65] by mail.gmx.net (mp001) with SMTP; 01 Apr 2011 10:48:58 +0200 X-Authenticated: #20778731 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18rsesVIZsrYahDwZnCaAuUBzwKhmjXeRFQzRPy1f aKuZYZvGAExenD Received: by escher.home (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 6DE8C63953; Fri, 1 Apr 2011 10:48:56 +0200 (CEST) From: Stephen Berman To: David De La Harpe Golden Subject: Re: bug#8400: 24.0.50; Strange selection behavior in Gnus Article buffer References: <87fwq30wvd.fsf@escher.fritz.box> <4D951FDD.1070105@harpegolden.net> Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2011 10:48:56 +0200 In-Reply-To: <4D951FDD.1070105@harpegolden.net> (David De La Harpe Golden's message of "Fri, 01 Apr 2011 01:44:13 +0100") Message-ID: <871v1mjr0n.fsf@escher.fritz.box> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Spam-Score: -3.0 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 8400 Cc: 8400@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -3.0 (---) On Fri, 01 Apr 2011 01:44:13 +0100 David De La Harpe Golden wrote: > On 31/03/11 23:05, Stephen Berman wrote: >> 1. emacs -Q >> 2. Carry out the steps in NEWS to return to the pre-24 selection behavior: >> Change `mouse-drag-copy-region' to t. >> Change `x-select-enable-primary' to t. >> Change `x-select-enable-clipboard' to nil. > > Please try: > > (setq select-active-regions nil > mouse-drag-copy-region t > x-select-enable-primary t > x-select-enable-clipboard nil) > (global-set-key [mouse-2] 'mouse-yank-at-click) > > I'm not saying there isn't a real issue, what you describe does sound a bit > similar to a problem that occasionally occurred with the new settings (without > any changes to them) a while back, but please try with the above settings, > which are AFAIK still* (whatever the NEWS file may currently say) the actual > current recipe to restore the old behaviour (except on windows) - if you only > did precisely what you said in your 2., then AFAIK you were running with a > doom-laden mix of old and new settings. You're right. So this is a -- rather insidious -- NEWS bug; fix below. Thanks for setting me straight. Steve Berman *** /data/steve/bzr/emacs/trunk/etc/NEWS 2011-03-30 10:33:51.000000000 +0200 --- /data/steve/bzr/emacs/quickfixes/etc/NEWS 2011-04-01 10:38:09.000000000 +0200 *************** *** 332,337 **** --- 332,338 ---- *** To return to the previous behavior, do the following: + **** Change `select-active-regions' to nil. **** Change `mouse-drag-copy-region' to t. **** Change `x-select-enable-primary' to t (on X only). **** Change `x-select-enable-clipboard' to nil. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Apr 02 20:40:48 2011 Received: (at 8400-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Apr 2011 00:40:48 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q6BN1-0005m2-Id for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 02 Apr 2011 20:40:47 -0400 Received: from vm-emlprdomr-06.its.yale.edu ([130.132.50.147]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q6BMz-0005lk-52 for 8400-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 02 Apr 2011 20:40:45 -0400 Received: from furball ([64.134.67.135]) (authenticated bits=0) by vm-emlprdomr-06.its.yale.edu (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p330edUw019817 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sat, 2 Apr 2011 20:40:39 -0400 Received: by furball (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 0610E1603EB; Sat, 2 Apr 2011 20:40:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Chong Yidong To: Stephen Berman Subject: Re: bug#8400: 24.0.50; Strange selection behavior in Gnus Article buffer References: <87fwq30wvd.fsf@escher.fritz.box> <4D951FDD.1070105@harpegolden.net> <871v1mjr0n.fsf@escher.fritz.box> Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2011 20:40:39 -0400 In-Reply-To: <871v1mjr0n.fsf@escher.fritz.box> (Stephen Berman's message of "Fri, 01 Apr 2011 10:48:56 +0200") Message-ID: <87oc4omak8.fsf@stupidchicken.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.71 on 130.132.50.147 X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 8400-done Cc: 8400-done@debbugs.gnu.org, David De La Harpe Golden X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) Stephen Berman writes: > You're right. So this is a -- rather insidious -- NEWS bug; fix below. Applied; thanks. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Apr 03 14:18:18 2011 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Apr 2011 18:18:18 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q6RsP-0007S7-RT for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Apr 2011 14:18:18 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q6RsN-0007Ru-Dm for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Apr 2011 14:18:15 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q6RsH-0002ft-N2 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Apr 2011 14:18:10 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.1 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]:36062) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q6RsH-0002fp-JJ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Apr 2011 14:18:09 -0400 Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=53161 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Q6RsE-0000Tn-9t for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Apr 2011 14:18:09 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q6Rs9-0002eD-Sv for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Apr 2011 14:18:06 -0400 Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]:59985) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q6Rs9-0002e0-Gz for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Apr 2011 14:18:01 -0400 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0LJ300L009ECRP00@a-mtaout20.012.net.il> for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Apr 2011 21:18:00 +0300 (IDT) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([77.126.47.180]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0LJ300LQI9HXHB50@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Sun, 03 Apr 2011 21:17:58 +0300 (IDT) Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 21:18:02 +0300 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#8400: 24.0.50; Strange selection behavior in Gnus Article buffer In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Message-id: <83pqp3w65h.fsf@gnu.org> References: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (beta) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 199.232.76.165 X-Spam-Score: -4.4 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit Cc: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.4 (----) > From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen > Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 19:37:16 +0200 > > If I have `transient-mark-mode' switched on, and you `M-w' a line from > the article buffer, I get the following: > > (car kill-ring) => > "diff --git a/lisp/ChangeLog b/lisp/ChangeLog > " > > Which is correct. > > (x-selection-value-internal 'CLIPBOARD) => > "diff --git a/lisp/ChangeLog b/lisp/ChangeLog > " > > Which is also correct. > > (x-selection-value-internal 'PRIMARY) => > " > Signed-off-by: Kan-Ru Chen > --- > lisp/ChangeLog | 4 ++++ > lisp/nnir.el | 1 + > 2 files changed, 5 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-) > > " > > Which is WTF?! M-w and other keyboard gestures don't set PRIMARY in Emacs 24. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Apr 03 14:45:12 2011 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Apr 2011 18:45:12 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q6SIS-00082j-43 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Apr 2011 14:45:12 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q6SIO-00082S-Ne for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Apr 2011 14:45:09 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q6SII-0008KQ-6X for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Apr 2011 14:45:03 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.1 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]:55762) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q6SII-0008KM-4J for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Apr 2011 14:45:02 -0400 Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=40635 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Q6SIG-00080j-Ut for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Apr 2011 14:45:01 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q6SIF-0008Ez-6r for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Apr 2011 14:45:00 -0400 Received: from smtp.getmail.no ([84.208.15.66]:40689) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q6SIF-0008Cj-1j; Sun, 03 Apr 2011 14:44:59 -0400 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain Received: from get-mta-scan04.get.basefarm.net ([10.5.16.4]) by get-mta-out01.get.basefarm.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7.0-0.04 64bit (built Jun 20 2008)) with ESMTP id <0LJ300JV8AQVW660@get-mta-out01.get.basefarm.net>; Sun, 03 Apr 2011 20:44:55 +0200 (MEST) Received: from get-mta-scan04.get.basefarm.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Email Security Appliance) with SMTP id 2C5B81EEFF5F_D98C027B; Sun, 03 Apr 2011 18:44:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.getmail.no (unknown [10.5.16.4]) by get-mta-scan04.get.basefarm.net (Sophos Email Appliance) with ESMTP id E957A1EEFF58_D98C026F; Sun, 03 Apr 2011 18:44:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from quimbies.gnus.org ([84.215.51.58]) by get-mta-in03.get.basefarm.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7.0-0.04 64bit (built Jun 20 2008)) with ESMTP id <0LJ300BCKAQUIT00@get-mta-in03.get.basefarm.net>; Sun, 03 Apr 2011 20:44:54 +0200 (MEST) Received: from larsi by quimbies.gnus.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Q6SIA-0000aM-Kx; Sun, 03 Apr 2011 20:44:54 +0200 From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#8400: 24.0.50; Strange selection behavior in Gnus Article buffer In-reply-to: <83pqp3w65h.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 20:44:49 +0200 Message-id: References: <83pqp3w65h.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110016 (No Gnus v0.16) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Now-Playing: Basement Jaxx's _Remedy_: "Yo-Yo" X-Hashcash: 1:23:110403:bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org::wtK06jG5OsHLaHpe:0000000000000000000000000000000000000000Akjj X-Hashcash: 1:23:110403:eliz@gnu.org::Bohj9FPdf6d7sctJ:00001Eqov X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (1203?) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 199.232.76.165 X-Spam-Score: -5.2 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit Cc: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -5.2 (-----) Eli Zaretskii writes: > M-w and other keyboard gestures don't set PRIMARY in Emacs 24. But it's the contents from PRIMARY that ends up in the buffer when you say `C-y', apparently. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/ From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Apr 03 14:57:01 2011 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Apr 2011 18:57:01 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q6STs-0008Hh-Fh for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Apr 2011 14:57:00 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q6STq-0008HU-6Z for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Apr 2011 14:56:58 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q6STk-0002AI-Il for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Apr 2011 14:56:53 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.1 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]:48697) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q6STk-0002A9-Gd for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Apr 2011 14:56:52 -0400 Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=37996 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Q6STj-0006kI-54 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Apr 2011 14:56:52 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q6STh-00029x-TC for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Apr 2011 14:56:51 -0400 Received: from smtp.getmail.no ([84.208.15.66]:47480) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q6STh-00029o-M2; Sun, 03 Apr 2011 14:56:49 -0400 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain Received: from get-mta-scan04.get.basefarm.net ([10.5.16.4]) by get-mta-out01.get.basefarm.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7.0-0.04 64bit (built Jun 20 2008)) with ESMTP id <0LJ300JHPBANW670@get-mta-out01.get.basefarm.net>; Sun, 03 Apr 2011 20:56:47 +0200 (MEST) Received: from get-mta-scan04.get.basefarm.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Email Security Appliance) with SMTP id 2AD3F1EEFE3E_D98C2EFB; Sun, 03 Apr 2011 18:56:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.getmail.no (unknown [10.5.16.4]) by get-mta-scan04.get.basefarm.net (Sophos Email Appliance) with ESMTP id 0E0621EEFE21_D98C2EFF; Sun, 03 Apr 2011 18:56:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from quimbies.gnus.org ([84.215.51.58]) by get-mta-in03.get.basefarm.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7.0-0.04 64bit (built Jun 20 2008)) with ESMTP id <0LJ300BXYBAMIT00@get-mta-in03.get.basefarm.net>; Sun, 03 Apr 2011 20:56:47 +0200 (MEST) Received: from larsi by quimbies.gnus.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Q6STe-0001jk-Qc; Sun, 03 Apr 2011 20:56:46 +0200 From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#8400: 24.0.50; Strange selection behavior in Gnus Article buffer In-reply-to: <83pqp3w65h.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 20:56:45 +0200 Message-id: References: <83pqp3w65h.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110016 (No Gnus v0.16) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Now-Playing: Basement Jaxx's _Remedy_: "Yo-Yo" X-Hashcash: 1:23:110403:bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org::45S/PoPvx8J9K/lf:0000000000000000000000000000000000000000EtBX X-Hashcash: 1:23:110403:eliz@gnu.org::oigzBpUNihwUTDBx:00000sKqA X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (1203?) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 199.232.76.165 X-Spam-Score: -5.2 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit Cc: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -5.2 (-----) Eli Zaretskii writes: > M-w and other keyboard gestures don't set PRIMARY in Emacs 24. But like David De La Harpe Golden said, this may just be because of a bad combination of the (setq select-active-regions nil mouse-drag-copy-region t x-select-enable-primary t x-select-enable-clipboard nil) options. It does seem to affect quite a few people, though, and only in the article buffer (with the automatically updating Date header). Doing the settings above makes the problem disappear, but it's unfortunate that other combination(s) of the options has such a confusing outcome, I think. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/ From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Apr 03 16:59:26 2011 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Apr 2011 20:59:26 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q6UOL-0002TV-Tr for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Apr 2011 16:59:26 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q6UOK-0002TH-4T for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Apr 2011 16:59:24 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q6UOE-0008Pl-9P for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Apr 2011 16:59:19 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.1 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]:60376) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q6UOE-0008Ph-7a for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Apr 2011 16:59:18 -0400 Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=38075 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Q6UOA-0001A7-6E for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Apr 2011 16:59:18 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q6UO5-0008Mq-ML for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Apr 2011 16:59:14 -0400 Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]:52677) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q6UO5-0008Mg-G3 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Apr 2011 16:59:09 -0400 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0LJ300300GR84Q00@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Apr 2011 23:58:10 +0300 (IDT) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([77.126.47.180]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0LJ30033SGWW5E00@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Sun, 03 Apr 2011 23:58:10 +0300 (IDT) Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 23:58:13 +0300 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#8400: 24.0.50; Strange selection behavior in Gnus Article buffer In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Message-id: <83mxk7vyqi.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83pqp3w65h.fsf@gnu.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (beta) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 199.232.76.165 X-Spam-Score: -4.4 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit Cc: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.4 (----) > From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen > Cc: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org > Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 20:44:49 +0200 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > M-w and other keyboard gestures don't set PRIMARY in Emacs 24. > > But it's the contents from PRIMARY that ends up in the buffer when you > say `C-y', apparently. Not by default. C-y should give you the clipboard or the kill-ring. Isn't that what you reported? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Apr 03 17:44:27 2011 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Apr 2011 21:44:27 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q6V5v-00052z-13 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Apr 2011 17:44:27 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q6V5t-00052n-3Q for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Apr 2011 17:44:25 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q6V5m-0008SR-6w for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Apr 2011 17:44:19 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.1 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]:60330) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q6V5m-0008SI-4Z for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Apr 2011 17:44:18 -0400 Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=60380 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Q6V5g-0002lZ-HO for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Apr 2011 17:44:18 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q6V5f-0008Rf-4d for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Apr 2011 17:44:12 -0400 Received: from smtp.getmail.no ([84.208.15.66]:43520) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q6V5e-0008RP-UL; Sun, 03 Apr 2011 17:44:11 -0400 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain Received: from get-mta-scan02.get.basefarm.net ([10.5.16.4]) by get-mta-out02.get.basefarm.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7.0-0.04 64bit (built Jun 20 2008)) with ESMTP id <0LJ300113J1KT600@get-mta-out02.get.basefarm.net>; Sun, 03 Apr 2011 23:44:08 +0200 (MEST) Received: from get-mta-scan02.get.basefarm.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Email Security Appliance) with SMTP id 13F2A1EA588B_D98EA28B; Sun, 03 Apr 2011 21:44:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.getmail.no (unknown [10.5.16.4]) by get-mta-scan02.get.basefarm.net (Sophos Email Appliance) with ESMTP id D86F11EA2DCC_D98EA27F; Sun, 03 Apr 2011 21:44:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from quimbies.gnus.org ([84.215.51.58]) by get-mta-in01.get.basefarm.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7.0-0.04 64bit (built Jun 20 2008)) with ESMTP id <0LJ3009PEJ1IVM00@get-mta-in01.get.basefarm.net>; Sun, 03 Apr 2011 23:44:07 +0200 (MEST) Received: from larsi by quimbies.gnus.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Q6V5a-00013f-Ls; Sun, 03 Apr 2011 23:44:06 +0200 From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#8400: 24.0.50; Strange selection behavior in Gnus Article buffer In-reply-to: <83mxk7vyqi.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 23:44:04 +0200 Message-id: References: <83pqp3w65h.fsf@gnu.org> <83mxk7vyqi.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110016 (No Gnus v0.16) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAGFBMVEX37M4OBgNwUzr+/ewx Gw/f1LW1m3v99t/QrNOdAAACV0lEQVQ4jX2UMY/jIBCFkU7ENSuuTzjia1eKItdGc6mRV+DW58ik tRRl/ffvDZDNVjdFzPAxzMwDIsR/bNvW53AVzbZtQsggfEHsiTy7Vcc3MQQex7SIOp038DGlFMMj 4OuDj81JRKOUApjnNqXPaTCpTTF9nGSyBSDitksLf2HXLpk+gy2EcILFuKzb/XTqLGFei3GTwTOQ qOHOgxkBmrjC7GJpHaVe9y4xYO/swxjGu/dhw07aTV9gOcdweyxxHA9KudZz1xmMXsjx/fwIXa90 W+S4y1Wem+Y9oBKkwvxSdULB0yNFGT4XBsgshhzxARIi/+wACAkGAqjpn+V2bloHYnBQb6MQcSZj rrxgErMztoBJymRI6V8M1tgaBusBZUBRViiDuZ2NMSgLgCIHFNBZY4iOGSg9CcnaZUAGW7UFqL2Q qVeUgWEjkTyDnww0cVVdT44AzMLgbTdbInctOVqaXQUqREPOXmsOLAIwOGOa0GFpEFpp1CHoaI/J pAkhtfOQDeCAVHSRs7G5qiqbSMtBU6+ciJYQMZTtAMwREzCP7IjgGwdjUKpS+wFHyhEjZeMcGfyJ 8K6IGLOrhKrgMlhuECBLYkTIkuheR3RzfebonjlwwaHV8oNB7cMuVhEtf9Wl11MD4GsOAjAGB3hB MzfchrUCaAWRAtLh5EZ+BvWdQitSzltcDKLb6+KXcrW3remJfue3ee+2J1DBHmfXptv2ZaVzvZAz xqXpGyhbJbSI4qbm9dIL4AcMtv/2R/JUt0j8DYSQAfHbVkdfZ70HSC9jkbyU/PkHcFD7Qer8vbQA AAAASUVORK5CYII= X-Now-Playing: Simple Minds's _Sons and Fascination_: "This Earth That You Walk Upon" X-Hashcash: 1:23:110403:bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org::Eu4CoQupyrXxkAk5:0000000000000000000000000000000000000000HRhv X-Hashcash: 1:23:110403:eliz@gnu.org::mqRF0N+Yl64Nanvf:00000POVl X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (1203?) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 199.232.76.165 X-Spam-Score: -5.3 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit Cc: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -5.3 (-----) Eli Zaretskii writes: > Not by default. C-y should give you the clipboard or the kill-ring. > Isn't that what you reported? No, `C-y' gave me PRIMARY, which (with my settings, and has been reported by other users) was different in the article buffer from `kill-ring' and CLIPBOARD (and only in the article buffer). -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/ From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Apr 03 22:48:01 2011 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Apr 2011 02:48:01 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q6Zpg-00033Q-Lu for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Apr 2011 22:48:00 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q6Zpe-00033C-9W for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Apr 2011 22:47:58 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q6ZpY-0004uJ-7o for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Apr 2011 22:47:53 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.1 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]:39953) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q6ZpY-0004uF-4t for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Apr 2011 22:47:52 -0400 Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=38586 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Q6ZpV-0007bj-57 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Apr 2011 22:47:52 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q6ZpQ-0004tV-Lz for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Apr 2011 22:47:48 -0400 Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]:40926) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q6ZpQ-0004tQ-E3 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Apr 2011 22:47:44 -0400 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0LJ300300WYUQV00@a-mtaout20.012.net.il> for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Apr 2011 05:47:34 +0300 (IDT) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([77.126.47.180]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0LJ3003KEX3959A0@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Mon, 04 Apr 2011 05:47:34 +0300 (IDT) Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2011 05:47:38 +0300 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#8400: 24.0.50; Strange selection behavior in Gnus Article buffer In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Message-id: <83ipuuwx4l.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83pqp3w65h.fsf@gnu.org> <83mxk7vyqi.fsf@gnu.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (beta) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 199.232.76.165 X-Spam-Score: -4.4 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit Cc: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.4 (----) > From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen > Cc: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org > Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 23:44:04 +0200 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > Not by default. C-y should give you the clipboard or the kill-ring. > > Isn't that what you reported? > > No, `C-y' gave me PRIMARY, which (with my settings, and has been > reported by other users) was different in the article buffer from > `kill-ring' and CLIPBOARD (and only in the article buffer). So what is the bug? that C-y gave you PRIMARY or that it was different from the kill ring and the clipboard? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Apr 04 07:52:14 2011 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Apr 2011 11:52:14 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q6iKL-000801-Pd for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 04 Apr 2011 07:52:13 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q6iKK-0007zp-5V for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 04 Apr 2011 07:52:12 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q6iKE-0000Ho-Gy for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 04 Apr 2011 07:52:07 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.1 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]:42718) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q6iKE-0000Hj-Bv for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 04 Apr 2011 07:52:06 -0400 Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=47241 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Q6iKB-0007kJ-SC for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Apr 2011 07:52:05 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q6iK6-0000Fn-Gu for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Apr 2011 07:52:03 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:56811) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q6iK6-0000Fi-F6 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Apr 2011 07:51:58 -0400 Received: from eliz by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q6iK5-0005aW-5W; Mon, 04 Apr 2011 07:51:57 -0400 Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2011 07:51:57 -0400 Message-Id: From: Eli Zaretskii To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen In-reply-to: (message from Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen on Mon, 04 Apr 2011 11:24:55 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#8400: 24.0.50; Strange selection behavior in Gnus Article buffer References: <83pqp3w65h.fsf@gnu.org> <83mxk7vyqi.fsf@gnu.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 199.232.76.165 X-Spam-Score: -6.5 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit Cc: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.5 (------) > From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen > Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.bug > Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2011 11:24:55 +0200 > Mail-Copies-To: never > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > So what is the bug? that C-y gave you PRIMARY or that it was different > > from the kill ring and the clipboard? > > The bug is that `C-y' gives me a text I didn't `M-w'. That's the documented effect of setting x-select-enable-primary to a non-nil value, AFAIK. I think we can close this bug, then. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Apr 04 10:27:46 2011 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Apr 2011 14:27:46 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q6kkr-0002v7-UM for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 04 Apr 2011 10:27:46 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q6kkp-0002uu-6I for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 04 Apr 2011 10:27:43 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q6kkf-0001br-Cj for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 04 Apr 2011 10:27:38 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.1 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]:59876) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q6kkf-0001aa-6R for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 04 Apr 2011 10:27:33 -0400 Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=51072 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Q6kkb-0006f6-Kx for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Apr 2011 10:27:30 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q6kkT-0001XG-RB for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Apr 2011 10:27:28 -0400 Received: from harpegolden.net ([65.99.215.13]:57105) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q6kkT-0001X3-O3; Mon, 04 Apr 2011 10:27:21 -0400 Received: from [87.198.55.209] (87-198-55-209.ptr.magnet.ie [87.198.55.209]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "David De La Harpe Golden", Issuer "David De La Harpe Golden Personal CA rev 3" (verified OK)) by harpegolden.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C48EE683D9; Mon, 4 Apr 2011 15:27:19 +0100 (IST) Message-ID: <4D99D546.6080607@harpegolden.net> Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2011 15:27:18 +0100 From: David De La Harpe Golden User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.16) Gecko/20110307 Icedove/3.0.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#8400: 24.0.50; Strange selection behavior in Gnus Article buffer References: <83pqp3w65h.fsf@gnu.org> <83mxk7vyqi.fsf@gnu.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 199.232.76.165 X-Spam-Score: -4.4 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit Cc: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, Stephen Berman , Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.4 (----) On 04/04/11 12:51, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen >> Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.bug >> Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2011 11:24:55 +0200 >> Mail-Copies-To: never >> >> Eli Zaretskii writes: >> >>> So what is the bug? that C-y gave you PRIMARY or that it was different >>> from the kill ring and the clipboard? >> >> The bug is that `C-y' gives me a text I didn't `M-w'. > > That's the documented effect of setting x-select-enable-primary to a > non-nil value, AFAIK. I think we can close this bug, then. > Yeah. If x-select-enable-primary is non-nil, then as well as C-y getting from primary, C-w/M-w also set primary. However, if you've also asked for primary to be set by some other means and used those other means, then C-y will sometimes quite correctly give you the text from primary that got there by means other than M-w. I still haven't quite convinced myself that the text Stephen Berman was getting with his mix of settings was the expected one even given those settings. But on the whole, I think the main bug here was the docs bug. From unknown Mon Jun 23 16:45:35 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Tue, 03 May 2011 11:24:04 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator