From unknown Mon Aug 18 04:41:56 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#8382: tramp needs ability to be turned off Resent-From: Perry Smith Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 15:56:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 8382 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 8382@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.130150052914324 (code B ref -1); Wed, 30 Mar 2011 15:56:01 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Mar 2011 15:55:29 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q4xk0-0003iz-Og for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 30 Mar 2011 11:55:29 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q4x6o-0002ow-Az for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 30 Mar 2011 11:14:58 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q4x6h-0001ly-VQ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 30 Mar 2011 11:14:52 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW, T_DKIM_INVALID, T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL, URI_HEX autolearn=no version=3.3.1 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]:45991) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q4x6h-0001lu-Sz for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 30 Mar 2011 11:14:51 -0400 Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=50294 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Q4x6h-0006HH-0R for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Mar 2011 11:14:51 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q4x6g-0001lG-0m for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Mar 2011 11:14:50 -0400 Received: from mail-iy0-f169.google.com ([209.85.210.169]:46887) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q4x6f-0001l1-Rx for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Mar 2011 11:14:49 -0400 Received: by iyf13 with SMTP id 13so1784527iyf.0 for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2011 08:14:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:from:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :subject:date:message-id:to:mime-version:x-mailer; bh=wnTW6NDe2kdgX3AGoS+FA365YODjPhPY70MuUWRLLJQ=; b=MUT9SdXQmQhofLw/J7xs+zuy9ZPrOgvuO9fDuQPsMzIsi+0yuIXfADWJvPg+4dhM1V ghNLZlHhy+9U2BTOb3DIl02MsVjsdtAgqT+qtaCjGhKAkzsY//dW7Q3o0jo8aTIF1teT oOnuGqYPKZFwC2fKCE4urlm+YOAPM8QjXzZRo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:subject:date:message-id :to:mime-version:x-mailer; b=TF6VtwHJcW8ScIQxBPvKkHwqNA9YxI7uPFx6yfB1+OdDPhzzcutgLyDJXYsXjrszcw oO5yDx0Is80N9VLLnsGsDc97wFyNJZGT108wv2UGuysJL9r/+WYVM9T0/2CAjltRCloN W6FHK+o0kKTm4lRiK79d/ScqwxrfZJ87LGB4U= Received: by 10.231.154.196 with SMTP id p4mr1475870ibw.11.1301498089150; Wed, 30 Mar 2011 08:14:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [9.41.100.55] ([32.97.110.54]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id i20sm102092iby.14.2011.03.30.08.14.47 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 30 Mar 2011 08:14:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Perry Smith Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 10:14:46 -0500 Message-Id: <3DEA3695-03B2-49CE-8D55-BABA299AA9B5@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 199.232.76.165 X-Spam-Score: -5.5 (-----) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 11:55:28 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -5.5 (-----) When I do rlogin inside emacs, each time I do a cd (change directory), = tramp tries to ssh to the same system. ssh isn't set up on that system = so I have to ^G out of the sequence. It would be nice if tramp was off = by default and enabled upon request. If not that, at least give me a = way to turn it off easily. Perhaps in the menu that is asking for ssh = credentials, give a way to say "not for this host at this time". I am using Emacs 22.3 in one case and on my Mac I have: GNU Emacs 23.3.1 (x86_64-apple-darwin10.7.1, Carbon Version 1.6.0 AppKit = 1038.35) of 2011-03-22 on magicbook-009041100055.austin.ibm.com The 22.3 version seems a little less hostile than the 23.3 version. From unknown Mon Aug 18 04:41:56 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#8382: tramp needs ability to be turned off Resent-From: Michael Albinus Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2011 13:28:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 8382 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Perry Smith Cc: 8382@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 8382-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B8382.130175082429523 (code B ref 8382); Sat, 02 Apr 2011 13:28:02 +0000 Received: (at 8382) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Apr 2011 13:27:04 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q60r1-0007g8-IU for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 02 Apr 2011 09:27:03 -0400 Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net ([213.165.64.22]) by debbugs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q60qu-0007fV-QY for 8382@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 02 Apr 2011 09:27:02 -0400 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 02 Apr 2011 13:26:49 -0000 Received: from p57BB8112.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (EHLO detlef.gmx.de) [87.187.129.18] by mail.gmx.net (mp040) with SMTP; 02 Apr 2011 15:26:49 +0200 X-Authenticated: #3708877 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+YiQErjAmYoZ1m3YCA+sUuClIPm8CESjOSX4YDPH Ry3MbuBd3ZyCdy From: Michael Albinus References: <3DEA3695-03B2-49CE-8D55-BABA299AA9B5@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2011 15:26:48 +0200 In-Reply-To: <3DEA3695-03B2-49CE-8D55-BABA299AA9B5@gmail.com> (Perry Smith's message of "Wed, 30 Mar 2011 10:14:46 -0500") Message-ID: <871v1khjhj.fsf@gmx.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) Perry Smith writes: > When I do rlogin inside emacs, each time I do a cd (change directory), > tramp tries to ssh to the same system. ssh isn't set up on that > system so I have to ^G out of the sequence. It would be nice if tramp > was off by default and enabled upon request. If not that, at least > give me a way to turn it off easily. Perhaps in the menu that is > asking for ssh credentials, give a way to say "not for this host at > this time". > > I am using Emacs 22.3 in one case and on my Mac I have: > > GNU Emacs 23.3.1 (x86_64-apple-darwin10.7.1, Carbon Version 1.6.0 > AppKit 1038.35) of 2011-03-22 on magicbook-009041100055.austin.ibm.com > > The 22.3 version seems a little less hostile than the 23.3 version. Unless Tramp's file name syntax is used, it shouldn't be visible. Starting with Emacs 24 (which you don't use yet), Tramp is loaded only with minimal functionality at startup, loading its internal modules when needed only. See bug#1529, bug#5448, bug#5705. Disabling Tramp is described in its manual: (info "(tramp) Frequently Asked Questions") It summarizes the options to disable Tramp, discussed also in the help-gnu-emacs mailing list on the respective thread. Best regards, Michael. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Apr 02 20:52:12 2011 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Apr 2011 00:52:12 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q6BY4-00067H-Bs for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 02 Apr 2011 20:52:12 -0400 Received: from vm-emlprdomr-05.its.yale.edu ([130.132.50.146]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q6BY2-000673-Is for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 02 Apr 2011 20:52:10 -0400 Received: from furball ([64.134.67.135]) (authenticated bits=0) by vm-emlprdomr-05.its.yale.edu (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p330q46q016656 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 2 Apr 2011 20:52:05 -0400 Received: by furball (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 145571603EB; Sat, 2 Apr 2011 20:52:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Chong Yidong To: control@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: close 8382 Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2011 20:52:05 -0400 Message-ID: <87d3l440ne.fsf@stupidchicken.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.71 on 130.132.50.146 X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) close 8382 thaks