From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Mar 26 16:03:18 2011 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Mar 2011 20:03:19 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q3Zhe-0004IR-50 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 26 Mar 2011 16:03:18 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q3Zhb-0004IA-FV for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 26 Mar 2011 16:03:15 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q3ZhQ-00051k-48 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 26 Mar 2011 16:03:05 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.1 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]:35638) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q3ZhK-0004zY-PZ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 26 Mar 2011 16:03:04 -0400 Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=58466 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Q3ZgR-0006qV-NW for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Mar 2011 16:02:34 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q3ZfX-0004oY-Tv for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Mar 2011 16:01:09 -0400 Received: from rcsinet10.oracle.com ([148.87.113.121]:52174) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q3ZfX-0004oQ-Mf for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Mar 2011 16:01:07 -0400 Received: from acsinet15.oracle.com (acsinet15.oracle.com [141.146.126.227]) by rcsinet10.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.2) with ESMTP id p2QK15Vf005165 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2011 20:01:06 GMT Received: from acsmt358.oracle.com (acsmt358.oracle.com [141.146.40.158]) by acsinet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.1) with ESMTP id p2QK14oS006444 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2011 20:01:04 GMT Received: from abhmt018.oracle.com (abhmt018.oracle.com [141.146.116.27]) by acsmt358.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id p2QK132m013777 for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2011 15:01:04 -0500 Received: from dradamslap1 (/10.159.60.21) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Sat, 26 Mar 2011 13:01:03 -0700 From: "Drew Adams" To: Subject: 24.0.50; wrong bindings for remapped keys Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 13:00:58 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Acvr8IZSVVeo9XvFSDSVuTJk752/AQ== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 X-Source-IP: acsmt358.oracle.com [141.146.40.158] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090202.4D8E4600.0134,ss=1,fgs=0 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 199.232.76.165 X-Spam-Score: -6.4 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.4 (------) (define-key ctl-x-map "f" 'forward-char) C-h w forward-char (says that it is bound to C-x f) (define-key ctl-x-map [remap forward-char] 'backward-char) C-h w forward-char (says that it is still bound to C-x f) C-h w backward-char (says that it is bound to C-x ) (command-remapping 'forward-char nil (list ctl-x-map)) => backward-char C-x f (moves forward, not backward a character; `backward-char' is not invoked) C-x C-h (says C-x f is bound to `forward-char') Looking at (elisp) Remapping Commands I do not see how/why this should be. Seems like this should just work (as the doc indicates). In GNU Emacs 24.0.50.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) of 2011-03-21 on 3249CTO Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600 configured using `configure --with-gcc (4.5) --no-opt --cflags -Ic:/imagesupport/include' From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Mar 27 17:19:31 2011 Received: (at 8350) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Mar 2011 21:19:31 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q3xMx-0006Oi-2Q for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 27 Mar 2011 17:19:31 -0400 Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.183] helo=ironport2-out.pppoe.ca) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q3xMv-0006OX-8X for 8350@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 27 Mar 2011 17:19:30 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvsEAPeoj01MCqRC/2dsb2JhbAClUHjAM4VpBJYF X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.63,252,1299474000"; d="scan'208";a="98275739" Received: from 76-10-164-66.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([76.10.164.66]) by ironport2-out.pppoe.ca with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 27 Mar 2011 17:19:22 -0400 Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 90F8E58EBD; Sun, 27 Mar 2011 17:19:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Stefan Monnier To: "Drew Adams" Subject: Re: bug#8350: 24.0.50; wrong bindings for remapped keys Message-ID: References: Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 17:19:22 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Drew Adams's message of "Sat, 26 Mar 2011 13:00:58 -0700") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 8350 Cc: 8350@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) > (define-key ctl-x-map [remap forward-char] 'backward-char) [...] > (command-remapping 'forward-char nil (list ctl-x-map)) > => backward-char But ctl-x-map is never used as one of the active maps, it's always limited to being a prefix map bound to C-x, so the define-key above will have pretty much no effect. Stefan From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Mar 27 17:52:01 2011 Received: (at 8350) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Mar 2011 21:52:01 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q3xsO-000787-UE for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 27 Mar 2011 17:52:01 -0400 Received: from rcsinet10.oracle.com ([148.87.113.121]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q3xsN-00077w-AW for 8350@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 27 Mar 2011 17:51:59 -0400 Received: from rcsinet13.oracle.com (rcsinet13.oracle.com [148.87.113.125]) by rcsinet10.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.2) with ESMTP id p2RLpqxF003232 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Sun, 27 Mar 2011 21:51:53 GMT Received: from acsmt358.oracle.com (acsmt358.oracle.com [141.146.40.158]) by rcsinet13.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.1) with ESMTP id p2RLppjs005235 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 27 Mar 2011 21:51:51 GMT Received: from abhmt016.oracle.com (abhmt016.oracle.com [141.146.116.25]) by acsmt358.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id p2RLpoHR021026; Sun, 27 Mar 2011 16:51:51 -0500 Received: from dradamslap1 (/10.159.60.136) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Sun, 27 Mar 2011 14:51:50 -0700 From: "Drew Adams" To: "'Stefan Monnier'" References: Subject: RE: bug#8350: 24.0.50; wrong bindings for remapped keys Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 14:51:52 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: AcvsxKXSwkTL1hh+SSOy99zUb7xNqQAAKRZg X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 X-Source-IP: acsmt358.oracle.com [141.146.40.158] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090209.4D8FB178.0012,ss=1,fgs=0 X-Spam-Score: -6.4 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 8350 Cc: 8350@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.4 (------) > > (define-key ctl-x-map [remap forward-char] 'backward-char) > > C-x C-h (says C-x f is bound to `forward-char') > > But ctl-x-map is never used as one of the active maps, it's always > limited to being a prefix map bound to C-x, so the define-key > above will have pretty much no effect. It was a simplified example. And whether `ctl-x-map' is used as an active map is irrelevant, I think, to the bugged behavior wrt `PREFIX-KEY C-h' described here. In any case, in my own use, where I uncovered this, the keymap is not `ctl-x-map', just as the commands are not `forward-char' and `backward-char'. In my use, `bmkp-this-buffer-jump', for example, is remapped to `icicle-bookmark-this-buffer' in `icicle-mode-map' (a minor mode map). And the remapping works as expected - `icicle-bookmark-this-buffer' gets called. And all of the help output is correct - except for `PREFIX-KEY C-h'. `C-h w bmkp-this-buffer-jump' says: "bmkp-this-buffer-jump is remapped to icicle-bookmark-this-buffer which is on C-x j ." `C-h w icicle-bookmark-this-buffer' says: "icicle-bookmark-this-buffer is on C-x j ." `C-h f bmkp-this-buffer-jump' says it is remapped to etc., etc. All of the help output is correct. Except the output from `C-x j C-h', which shows this: "C-x j . bmkp-this-buffer-jump" The code defining the initial binding of `bmkp-this-buffer-jump' includes this: (define-prefix-command 'bmkp-jump-map) (define-key ctl-x-map "j" bmkp-jump-map) (define-key bmkp-jump-map "." 'bmkp-this-buffer-jump) From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Mar 28 10:22:46 2011 Received: (at 8350) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Mar 2011 14:22:48 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q4DLB-0005vQ-7c for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 28 Mar 2011 10:22:45 -0400 Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.183] helo=ironport2-out.pppoe.ca) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q4DL8-0005v6-TR; Mon, 28 Mar 2011 10:22:43 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvsEACSZkE1MCqRC/2dsb2JhbAClPniIa7lqhWkElgU X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.63,255,1299474000"; d="scan'208";a="98349394" Received: from 76-10-164-66.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO ceviche.home) ([76.10.164.66]) by ironport2-out.pppoe.ca with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 28 Mar 2011 10:22:29 -0400 Received: by ceviche.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id A639C660F8; Mon, 28 Mar 2011 10:22:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Stefan Monnier To: "Drew Adams" Subject: Re: bug#8350: 24.0.50; wrong bindings for remapped keys Message-ID: References: Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 10:22:28 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Drew Adams's message of "Sun, 27 Mar 2011 14:51:52 -0700") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 8350 Cc: 8350@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) forcemerge 6882 8350 thanks >> > (define-key ctl-x-map [remap forward-char] 'backward-char) >> > C-x C-h (says C-x f is bound to `forward-char') >> But ctl-x-map is never used as one of the active maps, it's always >> limited to being a prefix map bound to C-x, so the define-key >> above will have pretty much no effect. > It was a simplified example. And whether `ctl-x-map' is used as an > active map is irrelevant, Well, since the `remap' is in ctl-x-map it is of crucial importance. > I think, to the bugged behavior wrt `PREFIX-KEY C-h' described here. That problem is in bug#6881 and bug#8351 so I don't think it needs a third bug report. Stefan From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Mar 28 11:04:14 2011 Received: (at 8350) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Mar 2011 15:04:14 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q4DzJ-0007gf-Rs for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 28 Mar 2011 11:04:14 -0400 Received: from rcsinet10.oracle.com ([148.87.113.121]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q4DzH-0007gR-MD for 8350@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 28 Mar 2011 11:04:12 -0400 Received: from rcsinet15.oracle.com (rcsinet15.oracle.com [148.87.113.117]) by rcsinet10.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.2) with ESMTP id p2SF44qM003750 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 28 Mar 2011 15:04:05 GMT Received: from acsmt357.oracle.com (acsmt357.oracle.com [141.146.40.157]) by rcsinet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.1) with ESMTP id p2SF42Ju006050 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 28 Mar 2011 15:04:02 GMT Received: from abhmt004.oracle.com (abhmt004.oracle.com [141.146.116.13]) by acsmt357.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id p2SF42Qr005856; Mon, 28 Mar 2011 10:04:02 -0500 Received: from dradamslap1 (/130.35.178.194) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Mon, 28 Mar 2011 08:04:01 -0700 From: "Drew Adams" To: "'Stefan Monnier'" References: Subject: RE: bug#8350: 24.0.50; wrong bindings for remapped keys Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 08:04:00 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-reply-to: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 Thread-Index: AcvtU5gYFGQXQ16RRiWI9MEgRMK3ZgABTGrw X-Source-IP: acsmt357.oracle.com [141.146.40.157] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090204.4D90A363.00C3,ss=1,fgs=0 X-Spam-Score: -6.4 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 8350 Cc: 8350@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.4 (------) > That problem is in bug#6881 and bug#8351 so I don't think it needs > a third bug report. Granted, 8351 refers to the C-h part of this bug. If you don't think the rest of 8350 (apart from C-h) represents a bug, OK. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Mar 28 20:31:25 2011 Received: (at 8350) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Mar 2011 00:31:26 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q4MqD-0004qF-09 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 28 Mar 2011 20:31:25 -0400 Received: from pruche.dit.umontreal.ca ([132.204.246.22]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q4MqB-0004pi-PP for 8350@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 28 Mar 2011 20:31:24 -0400 Received: from ceviche.home (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by pruche.dit.umontreal.ca (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id p2T0VHiU014096; Mon, 28 Mar 2011 20:31:18 -0400 Received: by ceviche.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 05E5766468; Mon, 28 Mar 2011 13:43:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Stefan Monnier To: "Drew Adams" Subject: Re: bug#8350: 24.0.50; wrong bindings for remapped keys Message-ID: References: Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 13:43:30 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Drew Adams's message of "Mon, 28 Mar 2011 08:04:00 -0700") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-NAI-Spam-Flag: NO X-NAI-Spam-Threshold: 5 X-NAI-Spam-Score: 0 X-NAI-Spam-Rules: 1 Rules triggered RV3810=0 X-NAI-Spam-Version: 2.2.0.9286 : core <3810> : streams <614376> : uri <837528> X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 8350 Cc: 8350@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) >> That problem is in bug#6881 and bug#8351 so I don't think it needs >> a third bug report. > Granted, 8351 refers to the C-h part of this bug. > If you don't think the rest of 8350 (apart from C-h) represents a bug, OK. All the rest is explained by the fact that you put the `remap' thing on a non-top-level keymap, AFAICT. If not, then please submit a new report that focuses on the new misbehavior. Stefan From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Mar 29 00:16:25 2011 Received: (at 8350) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Mar 2011 04:16:25 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q4QLx-0002uG-Df for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 29 Mar 2011 00:16:25 -0400 Received: from rcsinet10.oracle.com ([148.87.113.121]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q4QLw-0002u5-6n for 8350@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 29 Mar 2011 00:16:24 -0400 Received: from rcsinet15.oracle.com (rcsinet15.oracle.com [148.87.113.117]) by rcsinet10.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.2) with ESMTP id p2T4GHLC012830 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Tue, 29 Mar 2011 04:16:18 GMT Received: from acsmt358.oracle.com (acsmt358.oracle.com [141.146.40.158]) by rcsinet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.1) with ESMTP id p2T4GGww020536 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 29 Mar 2011 04:16:17 GMT Received: from abhmt008.oracle.com (abhmt008.oracle.com [141.146.116.17]) by acsmt358.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id p2T4GGWc032644; Mon, 28 Mar 2011 23:16:16 -0500 Received: from dradamslap1 (/10.159.58.135) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Mon, 28 Mar 2011 21:16:15 -0700 From: "Drew Adams" To: "'Stefan Monnier'" References: Subject: RE: bug#8350: 24.0.50; wrong bindings for remapped keys Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 21:16:14 -0700 Message-ID: <83ADE0967B3F46A08C6DA8914291AD68@us.oracle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: AcvtqKPiBbWoDFV2QFiquJshpvb4MAAHy4Xw X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 X-Source-IP: acsmt358.oracle.com [141.146.40.158] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090203.4D915D11.0048,ss=1,fgs=0 X-Spam-Score: -6.4 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 8350 Cc: 8350@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.4 (------) > >> That problem is in bug#6881 and bug#8351 so I don't think it needs > >> a third bug report. > > > > Granted, 8351 refers to the C-h part of this bug. > > If you don't think the rest of 8350 (apart from C-h) > > represents a bug, OK. > > All the rest is explained by the fact that you put the > `remap' thing on a non-top-level keymap, AFAICT. Yes, I already agreed with you about that. The question is whether the symptoms constitute a bug. It's fine with me if you feel they do not. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Mar 29 09:58:26 2011 Received: (at 8350) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Mar 2011 13:58:27 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q4ZRC-00086W-OF for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 29 Mar 2011 09:58:26 -0400 Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.183] helo=ironport2-out.pppoe.ca) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q4ZRA-00086L-Qo for 8350@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 29 Mar 2011 09:58:25 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvsEANPkkU1MCqRC/2dsb2JhbAClTHiIebwghWoElhA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.63,262,1299474000"; d="scan'208";a="98500253" Received: from 76-10-164-66.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([76.10.164.66]) by ironport2-out.pppoe.ca with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 29 Mar 2011 09:58:19 -0400 Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id E08E058EBD; Tue, 29 Mar 2011 09:58:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Stefan Monnier To: "Drew Adams" Subject: Re: bug#8350: 24.0.50; wrong bindings for remapped keys Message-ID: References: <83ADE0967B3F46A08C6DA8914291AD68@us.oracle.com> Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 09:58:18 -0400 In-Reply-To: <83ADE0967B3F46A08C6DA8914291AD68@us.oracle.com> (Drew Adams's message of "Mon, 28 Mar 2011 21:16:14 -0700") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 8350 Cc: 8350@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) > Yes, I already agreed with you about that. The question is whether > the symptoms constitute a bug. It's fine with me if you feel they > do not. I don't know what symptoms you're talking about. Stefan From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Mar 29 10:18:27 2011 Received: (at 8350) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Mar 2011 14:18:27 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q4ZkX-00006R-Lv for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 29 Mar 2011 10:18:26 -0400 Received: from rcsinet10.oracle.com ([148.87.113.121]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q4ZkV-00006E-AS for 8350@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 29 Mar 2011 10:18:23 -0400 Received: from rcsinet13.oracle.com (rcsinet13.oracle.com [148.87.113.125]) by rcsinet10.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.2) with ESMTP id p2TEIFZT000822 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Tue, 29 Mar 2011 14:18:17 GMT Received: from acsmt356.oracle.com (acsmt356.oracle.com [141.146.40.156]) by rcsinet13.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.1) with ESMTP id p2TEID1c020852 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 29 Mar 2011 14:18:14 GMT Received: from abhmt018.oracle.com (abhmt018.oracle.com [141.146.116.27]) by acsmt356.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id p2TEIDuQ003117; Tue, 29 Mar 2011 09:18:13 -0500 Received: from dradamslap1 (/10.159.58.135) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Tue, 29 Mar 2011 07:18:12 -0700 From: "Drew Adams" To: "'Stefan Monnier'" References: <83ADE0967B3F46A08C6DA8914291AD68@us.oracle.com> Subject: RE: bug#8350: 24.0.50; wrong bindings for remapped keys Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 07:18:10 -0700 Message-ID: <042D191B819B4B56AB0E816332C44935@us.oracle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: AcvuGV15IAjFctm7QJC0TuGTH/BKGQAAhksA X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 X-Source-IP: acsmt356.oracle.com [141.146.40.156] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090202.4D91EA26.00F9,ss=1,fgs=0 X-Spam-Score: -6.4 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 8350 Cc: 8350@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.4 (------) > > Yes, I already agreed with you about that. The question is whether > > the symptoms constitute a bug. It's fine with me if you feel they > > do not. > > I don't know what symptoms you're talking about. The behavior described in the bug report, of course. The symptoms you explained are manifested because of using `remap' with a non-top-level keymap. IOW, what you called "all the rest": >>> All the rest is explained by the fact that you put the >>> `remap' thing on a non-top-level keymap, AFAICT. If that behavior doesn't constitute a bug in your eyes, as I say, that's fine with me. You might nevertheless consider documenting it. There is nothing in the doc for `remap' that suggests this, I believe. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun May 29 15:01:05 2011 Received: (at 8350) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 May 2011 19:01:05 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QQlEW-0006gt-KI for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 29 May 2011 15:01:04 -0400 Received: from vm-emlprdomr-03.its.yale.edu ([130.132.50.144]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QQlEV-0006gQ-8Y for 8350@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 29 May 2011 15:01:03 -0400 Received: from furball ([64.134.101.122]) (authenticated bits=0) by vm-emlprdomr-03.its.yale.edu (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p4TJ0vXx011458 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sun, 29 May 2011 15:00:57 -0400 Received: by furball (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 2B62916087D; Sun, 29 May 2011 15:00:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Chong Yidong To: "Drew Adams" Subject: Re: bug#8350: 24.0.50; wrong bindings for remapped keys Date: Sun, 29 May 2011 15:00:54 -0400 Message-ID: <87hb8dbac9.fsf@stupidchicken.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.71 on 130.132.50.144 X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 8350 Cc: 8350@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) > If that behavior doesn't constitute a bug in your eyes, as I say, > that's fine with me. You might nevertheless consider documenting it. > There is nothing in the doc for `remap' that suggests this, I believe. I've edited the Lisp manually to specifically mention this. 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