From unknown Mon Aug 18 14:25:05 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#8331: UNIX Environment variables get lost in ver23.3 as opposed to 23.2 Resent-From: Vishwajith Singh Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 18:32:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 8331 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 8331@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.130090509312213 (code B ref -1); Wed, 23 Mar 2011 18:32:02 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Mar 2011 18:31:33 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q2SqC-0003Au-KJ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 23 Mar 2011 14:31:33 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q2SjW-00030o-BZ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 23 Mar 2011 14:24:39 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q2SjQ-0005qo-9k for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 23 Mar 2011 14:24:33 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,T_DKIM_INVALID,T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.1 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]:55850) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q2SjQ-0005qj-6T for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 23 Mar 2011 14:24:32 -0400 Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=46548 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Q2SjN-0006Ru-Rz for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Mar 2011 14:24:32 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q2SjM-0005qB-7A for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Mar 2011 14:24:29 -0400 Received: from mail-qy0-f176.google.com ([209.85.216.176]:41165) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q2SjM-0005q3-4i for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Mar 2011 14:24:28 -0400 Received: by qyk30 with SMTP id 30so7858842qyk.0 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2011 11:24:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=B8+mm0fydbBfedlOA9qnAy8B6KqdgLUIU1w6VfXGftM=; b=TUfEoqG/nWJ3XJJkk1P13ZmWDicrPHYrIebLGcg5uNcbdlhuSKhRktnAJC92zi2lfI sDxMI09jb7ha/EwTeIh3QuH1ZtSkUwMmQrpDTX+DLYNdaIFbH4tKtmzKiUwfZqHkr7u4 Slt/bJpZ5WDosrAfVhACXb735s4AK8vjevJSo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=ZtxrUaxvgFXlBjN5UtvoJioVCbAU/nI6dCaQmRaB9HwrMNSZrPm+Ucql62YBbT2BcM 1u84OQZ6pOTwoFqSR74rHupGGm8IWjtKGOnSfV8ytVpfUJEcOKOZia+KJcfOVHeFN7NZ 8npbwmW7VScgwvFEX3lMep6OOuO/zTXj9AjsU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.28.133 with SMTP id m5mr6199402qac.281.1300904667482; Wed, 23 Mar 2011 11:24:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.61.139 with HTTP; Wed, 23 Mar 2011 11:24:27 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 11:24:27 -0700 Message-ID: From: Vishwajith Singh Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015175cb5f897894c049f2a7814 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 199.232.76.165 X-Spam-Score: -5.9 (-----) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 14:31:30 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -5.9 (-----) --0015175cb5f897894c049f2a7814 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I switched to using the latest version of emacs 23.3. and am finding an issue. The issues is that the ENV variables defined in the shell are lost within a buffer. Here's an example: 1) //Define an ENV variable call FOO UNIX setenv FOO FOO_VALUE 2) Open up a file in emacs called junk in the same window 3) In this new file, execute the shell command Ctrl-U Shift-! "echo $FOO" You are basically echoing the value of $FOO into the buffer junk. This works in emacs ver23.2 but fails in ver23.3 with the message "FOO: Undefined variable." Why is this difference of behaviour in the latest version? Can someone suggest a workaround.. Thanks, - V --0015175cb5f897894c049f2a7814 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 I switched to using the latest version of emacs 23.3. and am finding an issue.
The issues is that the ENV variables defined in the shell are lost within a buffer.

Here's an example:
1) //Define an ENV variable call FOO
UNIX setenv FOO FOO_VALUE
2) Open up a file in emacs called junk in the same window
3) In this new file, execute the shell command Ctrl-U Shift-! "echo $FOO"
You are basically echoing the value of $FOO into the buffer junk.

This works in emacs ver23.2 but fails in ver23.3 with the message "FOO: Undefined variable."

Why is this difference of behaviour in the latest version?
Can someone suggest a workaround..

Thanks,
- V




--0015175cb5f897894c049f2a7814-- From unknown Mon Aug 18 14:25:05 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#8331: UNIX Environment variables get lost in ver23.3 as opposed to 23.2 Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 20:43:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 8331 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Vishwajith Singh Cc: 8331@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 8331-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B8331.130091298023397 (code B ref 8331); Wed, 23 Mar 2011 20:43:02 +0000 Received: (at 8331) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Mar 2011 20:43:00 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q2UtQ-00065J-LD for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 23 Mar 2011 16:43:00 -0400 Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.183] helo=ironport2-out.pppoe.ca) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q2UtO-000657-N5 for 8331@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 23 Mar 2011 16:42:59 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvsEAG/4iU1MCqfZ/2dsb2JhbAClRHiITbtBhWkElXg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.63,233,1299474000"; d="scan'208";a="97755379" Received: from 76-10-167-217.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([76.10.167.217]) by ironport2-out.pppoe.ca with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 23 Mar 2011 16:42:53 -0400 Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id F244C591E8; Wed, 23 Mar 2011 16:42:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Stefan Monnier Message-ID: References: Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 16:42:52 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Vishwajith Singh's message of "Wed, 23 Mar 2011 11:24:27 -0700") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) > I switched to using the latest version of emacs 23.3. and am finding > an issue. The issues is that the ENV variables defined in the shell > are lost within a buffer. > Here's an example: > 1) //Define an ENV variable call FOO > UNIX setenv FOO FOO_VALUE > 2) Open up a file in emacs called junk in the same window > 3) In this new file, execute the shell command Ctrl-U Shift-! "echo $FOO" > You are basically echoing the value of $FOO into the buffer junk. Depending on how the `emacs' process is started w.r.t the shell process where you set the env-var, this is perfectly normal. So please show us the *exact* way you set the env var, and the *exact* way you then "open a file in Emacs". Stefan From unknown Mon Aug 18 14:25:05 2025 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.428 (Entity 5.428) X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org From: help-debbugs@gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System) To: Vishwajith Singh Subject: bug#8331: closed (Re: bug#8331: UNIX Environment variables get lost in ver23.3 as opposed to 23.2) Message-ID: References: X-Gnu-PR-Message: they-closed 8331 X-Gnu-PR-Package: emacs X-Gnu-PR-Keywords: moreinfo unreproducible Reply-To: 8331@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 00:38:03 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1332808683-30395-1" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1332808683-30395-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Your bug report #8331: UNIX Environment variables get lost in ver23.3 as opposed to 23.2 which was filed against the emacs package, has been closed. The explanation is attached below, along with your original report. If you require more details, please reply to 8331@debbugs.gnu.org. --=20 8331: http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D8331 GNU Bug Tracking System Contact help-debbugs@gnu.org with problems ------------=_1332808683-30395-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at 8331-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Mar 2012 00:38:02 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40191 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SCKQD-0007u2-7l for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 26 Mar 2012 20:38:01 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:37029) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SCKQB-0007ts-2p; Mon, 26 Mar 2012 20:38:00 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SCJvx-0002X2-Tt; Mon, 26 Mar 2012 20:06:45 -0400 From: Glenn Morris To: 8331-done@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#8331: UNIX Environment variables get lost in ver23.3 as opposed to 23.2 References: X-Spook: Leuken-Baden supercomputer Firewalls JFK munitions INS X-Ran: T1FPCAd$RHs8}{S<,EPluKp:8=kO!f2[PovulIo#F4s|0Hf_&9.jOXvGyQ>b2n/1~2X(1H X-Hue: cyan X-Attribution: GM Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 20:06:45 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Wed, 23 Mar 2011 16:42:52 -0400") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 8331-done X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) tags 8331 wontfix,notabug stop Stefan Monnier wrote: > Depending on how the `emacs' process is started w.r.t the shell process > where you set the env-var, this is perfectly normal. So please show us > the *exact* way you set the env var, and the *exact* way you then "open > a file in Emacs". This bug is being closed because it could not be reproduced and there was no response to a request for more information. If you still see the problem with the latest Emacs release, 23.4, please reply with the requested information and it can be reopened if needed. You can view the whole report at http://debbugs.gnu.org/8331 ------------=_1332808683-30395-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Mar 2011 18:31:33 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q2SqC-0003Au-KJ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 23 Mar 2011 14:31:33 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q2SjW-00030o-BZ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 23 Mar 2011 14:24:39 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q2SjQ-0005qo-9k for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 23 Mar 2011 14:24:33 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,T_DKIM_INVALID,T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.1 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]:55850) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q2SjQ-0005qj-6T for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 23 Mar 2011 14:24:32 -0400 Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=46548 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Q2SjN-0006Ru-Rz for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Mar 2011 14:24:32 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q2SjM-0005qB-7A for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Mar 2011 14:24:29 -0400 Received: from mail-qy0-f176.google.com ([209.85.216.176]:41165) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q2SjM-0005q3-4i for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Mar 2011 14:24:28 -0400 Received: by qyk30 with SMTP id 30so7858842qyk.0 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2011 11:24:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=B8+mm0fydbBfedlOA9qnAy8B6KqdgLUIU1w6VfXGftM=; b=TUfEoqG/nWJ3XJJkk1P13ZmWDicrPHYrIebLGcg5uNcbdlhuSKhRktnAJC92zi2lfI sDxMI09jb7ha/EwTeIh3QuH1ZtSkUwMmQrpDTX+DLYNdaIFbH4tKtmzKiUwfZqHkr7u4 Slt/bJpZ5WDosrAfVhACXb735s4AK8vjevJSo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=ZtxrUaxvgFXlBjN5UtvoJioVCbAU/nI6dCaQmRaB9HwrMNSZrPm+Ucql62YBbT2BcM 1u84OQZ6pOTwoFqSR74rHupGGm8IWjtKGOnSfV8ytVpfUJEcOKOZia+KJcfOVHeFN7NZ 8npbwmW7VScgwvFEX3lMep6OOuO/zTXj9AjsU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.28.133 with SMTP id m5mr6199402qac.281.1300904667482; Wed, 23 Mar 2011 11:24:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.61.139 with HTTP; Wed, 23 Mar 2011 11:24:27 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 11:24:27 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: UNIX Environment variables get lost in ver23.3 as opposed to 23.2 From: Vishwajith Singh To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015175cb5f897894c049f2a7814 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 199.232.76.165 X-Spam-Score: -5.9 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 14:31:30 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -5.9 (-----) --0015175cb5f897894c049f2a7814 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I switched to using the latest version of emacs 23.3. and am finding an issue. The issues is that the ENV variables defined in the shell are lost within a buffer. Here's an example: 1) //Define an ENV variable call FOO UNIX setenv FOO FOO_VALUE 2) Open up a file in emacs called junk in the same window 3) In this new file, execute the shell command Ctrl-U Shift-! "echo $FOO" You are basically echoing the value of $FOO into the buffer junk. This works in emacs ver23.2 but fails in ver23.3 with the message "FOO: Undefined variable." Why is this difference of behaviour in the latest version? Can someone suggest a workaround.. Thanks, - V --0015175cb5f897894c049f2a7814 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 I switched to using the latest version of emacs 23.3. and am finding an issue.
The issues is that the ENV variables defined in the shell are lost within a buffer.

Here's an example:
1) //Define an ENV variable call FOO
UNIX setenv FOO FOO_VALUE
2) Open up a file in emacs called junk in the same window
3) In this new file, execute the shell command Ctrl-U Shift-! "echo $FOO"
You are basically echoing the value of $FOO into the buffer junk.

This works in emacs ver23.2 but fails in ver23.3 with the message "FOO: Undefined variable."

Why is this difference of behaviour in the latest version?
Can someone suggest a workaround..

Thanks,
- V




--0015175cb5f897894c049f2a7814-- ------------=_1332808683-30395-1-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Mar 26 20:38:21 2012 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Mar 2012 00:38:21 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40193 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SCKQD-0007u8-Sr for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 26 Mar 2012 20:38:21 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:37029) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SCKQB-0007ts-2p; Mon, 26 Mar 2012 20:38:00 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SCJvx-0002X2-Tt; Mon, 26 Mar 2012 20:06:45 -0400 From: Glenn Morris To: 8331-done@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#8331: UNIX Environment variables get lost in ver23.3 as opposed to 23.2 References: X-Spook: Leuken-Baden supercomputer Firewalls JFK munitions INS X-Ran: T1FPCAd$RHs8}{S<,EPluKp:8=kO!f2[PovulIo#F4s|0Hf_&9.jOXvGyQ>b2n/1~2X(1H X-Hue: cyan X-Attribution: GM Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 20:06:45 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Wed, 23 Mar 2011 16:42:52 -0400") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) tags 8331 wontfix,notabug stop Stefan Monnier wrote: > Depending on how the `emacs' process is started w.r.t the shell process > where you set the env-var, this is perfectly normal. So please show us > the *exact* way you set the env var, and the *exact* way you then "open > a file in Emacs". This bug is being closed because it could not be reproduced and there was no response to a request for more information. If you still see the problem with the latest Emacs release, 23.4, please reply with the requested information and it can be reopened if needed. You can view the whole report at http://debbugs.gnu.org/8331