From unknown Fri Sep 05 20:56:03 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#8285 <8285@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#8285 <8285@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: 24.0.50; doc of `imenu-generic-expression' and `imenu--generic-function' Reply-To: bug#8285 <8285@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2025 03:56:03 +0000 retitle 8285 24.0.50; doc of `imenu-generic-expression' and `imenu--generic= -function' reassign 8285 emacs submitter 8285 "Drew Adams" severity 8285 minor thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Mar 18 12:10:06 2011 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Mar 2011 16:10:07 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q0cFZ-0002qf-SJ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 18 Mar 2011 12:10:06 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q0cFX-0002q5-T3 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 18 Mar 2011 12:10:04 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q0cFR-00060l-U9 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 18 Mar 2011 12:09:58 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.1 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]:53937) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q0cFR-00060d-Q3 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 18 Mar 2011 12:09:57 -0400 Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=56781 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Q0cFQ-00009k-Ek for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Mar 2011 12:09:57 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q0cFN-0005zN-7p for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Mar 2011 12:09:56 -0400 Received: from rcsinet10.oracle.com ([148.87.113.121]:41080) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q0cFN-0005yt-2d for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Mar 2011 12:09:53 -0400 Received: from rcsinet15.oracle.com (rcsinet15.oracle.com [148.87.113.117]) by rcsinet10.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.2) with ESMTP id p2IG9mc4020434 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2011 16:09:50 GMT Received: from acsmt356.oracle.com (acsmt356.oracle.com [141.146.40.156]) by rcsinet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.1) with ESMTP id p2IG9m9i013358 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2011 16:09:48 GMT Received: from abhmt004.oracle.com (abhmt004.oracle.com [141.146.116.13]) by acsmt356.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id p2IG9lKN026825 for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2011 11:09:47 -0500 Received: from dradamslap1 (/10.159.39.7) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Fri, 18 Mar 2011 09:09:47 -0700 From: "Drew Adams" To: Subject: 24.0.50; doc of `imenu-generic-expression' and `imenu--generic-function' Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 09:09:47 -0700 Message-ID: <6CAA58C0292943D68651BC3DB49A62C0@us.oracle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Acvlhub14h8AcWc4T++my/J0wlsoOA== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 X-Source-IP: acsmt356.oracle.com [141.146.40.156] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090205.4D8383CC.0148,ss=1,fgs=0 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 199.232.76.165 X-Spam-Score: -6.4 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.4 (------) 1. In the doc string of `imenu--generic-function', these terms are completely undefined and unexplained: POSITION-MARKER, INDEX-NAME, FUNCTION, ARGUMENTS, INDEX-POSITION, and INDEX-ALIST. Please define/explain these undefined terms. If you don't understand the problem, change these names to UU, VV, WW, XX, YY, and ZZ, and see if you understand the doc. 2. Seems a bit odd that this internal-only function (judging by its name, which contains `--') has all of the important doc for `imenu-generic-expression'. In the past, the latter's doc string described the format. Now the format is described (only) in the doc string of an internal function. This state, which seems inappropriate, was introduced in Emacs 22. In GNU Emacs 24.0.50.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) of 2011-03-07 on 3249CTO Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600 configured using `configure --with-gcc (4.5) --no-opt --cflags -Ic:/imagesupport/include' From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Mar 18 12:41:52 2011 Received: (at 8285) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Mar 2011 16:41:52 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q0ckJ-0003Xl-PQ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 18 Mar 2011 12:41:52 -0400 Received: from rcsinet10.oracle.com ([148.87.113.121]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q0ckH-0003XY-0Z for 8285@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 18 Mar 2011 12:41:49 -0400 Received: from rcsinet13.oracle.com (rcsinet13.oracle.com [148.87.113.125]) by rcsinet10.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.2) with ESMTP id p2IGffsu015810 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for <8285@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 18 Mar 2011 16:41:43 GMT Received: from acsmt356.oracle.com (acsmt356.oracle.com [141.146.40.156]) by rcsinet13.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.1) with ESMTP id p2IGffC6015301 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for <8285@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 18 Mar 2011 16:41:41 GMT Received: from abhmt008.oracle.com (abhmt008.oracle.com [141.146.116.17]) by acsmt356.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id p2IGfeFb024133 for <8285@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 18 Mar 2011 11:41:40 -0500 Received: from dradamslap1 (/10.159.39.7) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Fri, 18 Mar 2011 09:41:40 -0700 From: "Drew Adams" To: <8285@debbugs.gnu.org> References: <6CAA58C0292943D68651BC3DB49A62C0@us.oracle.com> Subject: RE: bug#8285: 24.0.50; doc of `imenu-generic-expression' and `imenu--generic-function' Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 09:41:40 -0700 Message-ID: <379CCD82B1314006AE660732170C57C2@us.oracle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <6CAA58C0292943D68651BC3DB49A62C0@us.oracle.com> Thread-Index: Acvlhub14h8AcWc4T++my/J0wlsoOAABAIdQ X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 X-Source-IP: acsmt356.oracle.com [141.146.40.156] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090201.4D838B45.0163,ss=1,fgs=0 X-Spam-Score: -6.4 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 8285 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.4 (------) Even worse: In emacs -Q, `C-h v imenu-generic-expression' shows you the variable's doc, but that just refers you to `imenu--generic-function' (see original bug report). And that function has not been loaded, so (a) its name is not linked to any doc and (2) `C-h f' does not accept its name. Result, `C-h v imenu-generic-expression' gives you no info about the format of the variable value. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Mar 18 14:22:53 2011 Received: (at 8285) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Mar 2011 18:22:53 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q0eK5-0006aq-0Y for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 18 Mar 2011 14:22:53 -0400 Received: from mtaout23.012.net.il ([80.179.55.175]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q0eK2-0006ad-6F for 8285@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 18 Mar 2011 14:22:51 -0400 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout23.012.net.il by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0LI900200MVIN200@a-mtaout23.012.net.il> for 8285@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 18 Mar 2011 20:22:43 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([77.124.131.120]) by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0LI9002G5N1TM320@a-mtaout23.012.net.il>; Fri, 18 Mar 2011 20:22:43 +0200 (IST) Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 20:22:46 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#8285: 24.0.50; doc of `imenu-generic-expression' and `imenu--generic-function' In-reply-to: <6CAA58C0292943D68651BC3DB49A62C0@us.oracle.com> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: Drew Adams Message-id: <838vwcs2yx.fsf@gnu.org> References: <6CAA58C0292943D68651BC3DB49A62C0@us.oracle.com> X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 8285 Cc: 8285@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) > From: "Drew Adams" > Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 09:09:47 -0700 > Cc: > > If you don't understand the problem, change these names to UU, VV, > WW, XX, YY, and ZZ, and see if you understand the doc. This argument is bogus: names of symbols can and should bear significant semantic information that helps to understand their roles, and if that information is descriptive enough, there's no need for any further definitions. As an extreme example, consider: (defun call-func (function &rest arguments) "Call FUNCTION with ARGUMENTS." I see no need to explain the arguments in this example. I'm not saying that the doc string in question could not use some improvement. But since imenu is about creating indices of functions in a program source file, at least FUNCTION and ARGUMENTS do not need any further explanations, IMO. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Mar 18 14:56:49 2011 Received: (at 8285) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Mar 2011 18:56:50 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q0eqv-0007LF-8T for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 18 Mar 2011 14:56:49 -0400 Received: from rcsinet10.oracle.com ([148.87.113.121]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q0eqt-0007L3-2Q for 8285@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 18 Mar 2011 14:56:47 -0400 Received: from acsinet15.oracle.com (acsinet15.oracle.com [141.146.126.227]) by rcsinet10.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.2) with ESMTP id p2IIudmT018557 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Fri, 18 Mar 2011 18:56:41 GMT Received: from acsmt358.oracle.com (acsmt358.oracle.com [141.146.40.158]) by acsinet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.1) with ESMTP id p2IIucV1031531 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 18 Mar 2011 18:56:38 GMT Received: from abhmt020.oracle.com (abhmt020.oracle.com [141.146.116.29]) by acsmt358.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id p2IIubu4023413; Fri, 18 Mar 2011 13:56:38 -0500 Received: from dradamslap1 (/10.159.39.7) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Fri, 18 Mar 2011 11:56:37 -0700 From: "Drew Adams" To: "'Eli Zaretskii'" References: <6CAA58C0292943D68651BC3DB49A62C0@us.oracle.com> <838vwcs2yx.fsf@gnu.org> Subject: RE: bug#8285: 24.0.50; doc of `imenu-generic-expression' and `imenu--generic-function' Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 11:56:38 -0700 Message-ID: <703782B6511042C395D1CD2BB6E97E2C@us.oracle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <838vwcs2yx.fsf@gnu.org> Thread-Index: AcvlmXs0XcNq6jAETvaNbYK+cKKD9QAAZuYg X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 X-Source-IP: acsmt358.oracle.com [141.146.40.158] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090207.4D83AAE7.003E,ss=1,fgs=0 X-Spam-Score: -6.4 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 8285 Cc: 8285@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.4 (------) > > If you don't understand the problem, change these names to UU, VV, > > WW, XX, YY, and ZZ, and see if you understand the doc. > > This argument is bogus: names of symbols can and should bear > significant semantic information that helps to understand their roles, > and if that information is descriptive enough, there's no need for any > further definitions. This doc is bogus. Using good names helps - always. It is typically not sufficient, including in this case. > As an extreme example, consider: > (defun call-func (function &rest arguments) > "Call FUNCTION with ARGUMENTS." Sorry, not interested in your "extreme example". Speak to the specific case reported, please. The meanings of the names I cited are _not_ self-evident. > I see no need to explain the arguments in this example. Which example? Yours? Agreed. But irrelevant. Or the example reported in this bug report? This report is not immediately about explaining the argument to `imenu--generic-function'. That argument, PATTERNS, _is_ described. But it is described in terms of undefined terms, so it is not described well enough. It is the explanations of those terms that are missing, not a description of the argument, PATTERNS. > I'm not saying that the doc string in question could not use some > improvement. But since imenu is about creating indices of functions > in a program source file, Oh no it is NOT. Imenu is used for indexing _lots_ of things besides just functions: variables, types, keys,... Nearly anything you want, in fact. > at least FUNCTION and ARGUMENTS do not need > any further explanations, IMO. If their meanings are obvious to you then surely you can explain what they are. Please add the explanation to the doc string so the rest of us can understand. What are they? Sure, from their names one can understand that they refer to some function and some arguments (maybe even arguments to function FUNCTION), respectively. But which function? Which arguments to which function? What's more (forgot to mention), we see this: "with FUNCTION and ARGUMENTS copied from PATTERNS" as the explanation (!) of these two terms. PATTERNS is the argument to `imenu--generic-function'. But how are FUNCTION and ARGUMENTS "copied" from PATTERNS? What does that even mean? The doc already describes the elements of alist PATTERNS, and FUNCTION and ARGUMENTS occur inside one type of element. How are they "copied" from PATTERNS? None of the terms I mentioned are explained. The meanings of none of them are clear based only on their names. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Aug 26 11:50:03 2021 Received: (at 8285) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Aug 2021 15:50:03 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50194 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mJHdi-0002TU-QY for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 26 Aug 2021 11:50:03 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:48626) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mJHdg-0002Sj-GI for 8285@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 26 Aug 2021 11:50:01 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=iNzkhHvrxlhTDxEbMAp4GLePWHuEpv2dF/+SiqGxLvA=; b=jCsdoyIyspE93lvVn0De5pQblr oiumTtCkQV1M7uCJz4RYpNg72gvdfhjl1DfmsZ5xFmqjn2eDHCLNNYU1l/AW3pn1vWtAwtUw9TtiL RLopGJz8+9gso81swSeBqoPA1FSPqp9WVyfggnuG3HiroSgeSF+x2c/qpeg2epraaSAU=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=elva) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mJHdV-0002Wc-JH; Thu, 26 Aug 2021 17:49:53 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: "Drew Adams" Subject: Re: bug#8285: 24.0.50; doc of `imenu-generic-expression' and `imenu--generic-function' References: <6CAA58C0292943D68651BC3DB49A62C0@us.oracle.com> Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2021 17:49:49 +0200 In-Reply-To: <6CAA58C0292943D68651BC3DB49A62C0@us.oracle.com> (Drew Adams's message of "Fri, 18 Mar 2011 09:09:47 -0700") Message-ID: <87eeagyzmq.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: "Drew Adams" writes: > 1. In the doc string of `imenu--generic-function', these terms are > completely undefined and unexplained: POSITION-MARKER, INDEX-NAME, > FUNCTION, ARGUMENTS, INDEX-POSITION, and INDEX-ALIST. Please [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 8285 Cc: 8285@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) "Drew Adams" writes: > 1. In the doc string of `imenu--generic-function', these terms are > completely undefined and unexplained: POSITION-MARKER, INDEX-NAME, > FUNCTION, ARGUMENTS, INDEX-POSITION, and INDEX-ALIST. Please > define/explain these undefined terms. Eli answered this one... > 2. Seems a bit odd that this internal-only function (judging by its > name, which contains `--') has all of the important doc for > `imenu-generic-expression'. In the past, the latter's doc string > described the format. Now the format is described (only) in the doc > string of an internal function. This state, which seems inappropriate, > was introduced in Emacs 22. This was fixed in: commit b7ccbdc2e39ff834a03a7f30516b71cd98e84a44 Author: Chong Yidong AuthorDate: Sun Aug 5 22:14:54 2012 +0800 So I'm closing this bug report. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Aug 26 11:50:06 2021 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Aug 2021 15:50:06 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50197 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mJHdm-0002Tp-56 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 26 Aug 2021 11:50:06 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:48640) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mJHdk-0002Su-CT for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 26 Aug 2021 11:50:04 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Subject:From:To:Message-Id:Date:Sender:Reply-To:Cc: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=XmSu+suBOmnj0/ag9OvAz/FiOGHRA8+o0NxvcDPlLk8=; b=hbOhDo3vwLrkY0EDHyslPj8hqH 4/MQ7mHOtwrQNPIkWWf6PCWnFS5E2tetw1tcHsFDZw9dHr/EGd1/tZNV4K1KcVazEWpGc6SVDBc2/ 7apmeAiPWJEKKxpueQfFveueW6XD8b8gJ1WzL/mgntrm33MqJeDtLICreTRW7BQdcF4Y=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=elva) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mJHdc-0002Wl-7q for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 26 Aug 2021 17:49:58 +0200 Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2021 17:49:55 +0200 Message-Id: <87czq0yzmk.fsf@gnus.org> To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #8285 X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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Content preview: close 8285 quit Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) close 8285 quit From unknown Fri Sep 05 20:56:03 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. 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