GNU bug report logs - #8149
23.2; Docs: "in a separate process"

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Package: emacs;

Reported by: Dave Abrahams <dave <at> boostpro.com>

Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 23:30:03 UTC

Severity: minor

Found in version 23.2

Done: Chong Yidong <cyd <at> stupidchicken.com>

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From: Dave Abrahams <dave <at> boostpro.com>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 23.2; Docs: "in a separate process"
Date: Tue, 01 Mar 2011 18:28:53 -0500
`37.3 Creating a Synchronous Process' sez, repeatedly, that the
synchronous processes created are called "in a separate process."

Now, either that is obvious, since when you create a process it is of
course a separate process from Emacs, or it means something that I can't
guess at.  It's confusing because shell-command-to-string conspicuously
leaves out the words "in a separate process," leading me to wonder if
it's doing something fundamentally difference and to think maybe I can't
really replace invocations of shell-command-to-string with
(appropriately reformulated) invocations of call-process-shell-command,
as I plan to.




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Message #8 received at 8149 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>
To: Dave Abrahams <dave <at> boostpro.com>
Cc: 8149 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#8149: 23.2; Docs: "in a separate process"
Date: Tue, 01 Mar 2011 21:58:32 -0500
Dave Abrahams wrote:

> Now, either that is obvious, since when you create a process it is of
> course a separate process from Emacs, or it means something that I can't
> guess at.  It's confusing because shell-command-to-string conspicuously
> leaves out the words "in a separate process," leading me to wonder if
> it's doing something fundamentally difference and to think maybe I can't
> really replace invocations of shell-command-to-string with
> (appropriately reformulated) invocations of call-process-shell-command,
> as I plan to.

I'm not sure there is any special significance to the "separate process"
thing, it might just be a turn of phrase that was copied from some
original description as more of these call-process etc functions were
added.

If you look at how shell-command-to-string and
call-process-shell-command are actually implemented, both use
`call-process', just in different ways.




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From: Chong Yidong <cyd <at> stupidchicken.com>
To: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>
Cc: Dave Abrahams <dave <at> boostpro.com>, 8149 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#8149: 23.2; Docs: "in a separate process"
Date: Sat, 05 Mar 2011 15:46:26 -0500
Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org> writes:

> I'm not sure there is any special significance to the "separate process"
> thing, it might just be a turn of phrase that was copied from some
> original description as more of these call-process etc functions were
> added.

I've tweaked the places that use this phrase to make it clearer.




bug closed, send any further explanations to 8149 <at> debbugs.gnu.org and Dave Abrahams <dave <at> boostpro.com> Request was from Chong Yidong <cyd <at> stupidchicken.com> to control <at> debbugs.gnu.org. (Sat, 05 Mar 2011 22:03:05 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

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Message #16 received at 8149 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Dave Abrahams <dave <at> boostpro.com>
To: Chong Yidong <cyd <at> stupidchicken.com>
Cc: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>, 8149 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#8149: 23.2; Docs: "in a separate process"
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 11:10:49 -0500
Many, many thanks for your responsive improvements!

On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 3:46 PM, Chong Yidong <cyd <at> stupidchicken.com> wrote:
> Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org> writes:
>
>> I'm not sure there is any special significance to the "separate process"
>> thing, it might just be a turn of phrase that was copied from some
>> original description as more of these call-process etc functions were
>> added.
>
> I've tweaked the places that use this phrase to make it clearer.
>



-- 
Dave Abrahams
BoostPro Computing
http://www.boostpro.com




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