From unknown Mon Aug 18 11:31:06 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#8118: 24.0.50; `eval-minibuffer' should show message "Evaluating..." 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Fri, 25 Feb 2011 18:59:29 GMT Received: from acsmt354.oracle.com (acsmt354.oracle.com [141.146.40.154]) by rcsinet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.1) with ESMTP id p1PGZ351029472 for ; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 18:59:28 GMT Received: from abhmt015.oracle.com by acsmt354.oracle.com with ESMTP id 1038885821298660285; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 10:58:05 -0800 Received: from dradamslap1 (/10.159.35.130) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 10:58:04 -0800 From: "Drew Adams" Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 10:58:06 -0800 Message-ID: <688C63B78156440BB665B695EE59BED0@us.oracle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 Thread-Index: AcvVHe+ICuTx35d1RuettCaaxmGeMw== X-Source-IP: acsmt354.oracle.com [141.146.40.154] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090206.4D67FC10.00CF:SCFMA4539814,ss=1,fgs=0 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 199.232.76.165 X-Spam-Score: -6.4 (------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.4 (------) M-: (eval-minibuffer "Sexp: ") Type: global-map RET As you can see from this example, it would be good if we showed some feedback to let users know that Emacs is thinking. ;-) In GNU Emacs 24.0.50.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) of 2011-02-14 on 3249CTO Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600 configured using `configure --with-gcc (4.4) --no-opt --cflags -Ic:/imagesupport/include' From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jul 14 14:42:17 2011 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Jul 2011 18:42:17 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QhQrY-0002TS-7O for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 14:42:16 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QhQrV-0002TD-Lb for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 14:42:14 -0400 Received: from cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no ([84.215.51.58] helo=quimbies.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QhQrK-0006cS-VM for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 20:42:03 +0200 Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 20:42:02 +0200 Message-Id: To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #8118 X-MailScanner-ID: 1QhQrK-0006cS-VM X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1311273723.07553@gid1aCTyc77y/eRlFXlKWA X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) tags 8118 notabug close 8118 From unknown Mon Aug 18 11:31:06 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#8118: 24.0.50; `eval-minibuffer' should show message "Evaluating..." Resent-From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 18:48:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 8118 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: notabug To: "Drew Adams" Cc: 8118@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 8118-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B8118.131066923713282 (code B ref 8118); Thu, 14 Jul 2011 18:48:03 +0000 Received: (at 8118) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Jul 2011 18:47:17 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QhQwO-0003SB-GI for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 14:47:16 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QhQwL-0003RQ-TX for 8118@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 14:47:14 -0400 Received: from cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no ([84.215.51.58] helo=quimbies.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QhQw8-0006iQ-Vg; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 20:47:01 +0200 From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen In-Reply-To: <688C63B78156440BB665B695EE59BED0@us.oracle.com> (Drew Adams's message of "Fri, 25 Feb 2011 10:58:06 -0800") Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 20:41:58 +0200 Message-ID: References: <688C63B78156440BB665B695EE59BED0@us.oracle.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Now-Playing: Joni Mitchell's _Don Juan's Reckless Daughter_: "Talk to Me" X-Hashcash: 1:23:110714:8118@debbugs.gnu.org::m9eZ1NX+hrWCmDXm:00000000000000000000000000000000000000000i8fU X-Hashcash: 1:23:110714:drew.adams@oracle.com::o4uf3p8QBZQ78fM/:00000000000000000000000000000000000000010+xN MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1QhQw8-0006iQ-Vg X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1311274021.12196@/zgJSyXqPnz6/0+ZIyEitA X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) "Drew Adams" writes: > M-: (eval-minibuffer "Sexp: ") > Type: global-map RET > > As you can see from this example, it would be good if we showed some > feedback to let users know that Emacs is thinking. ;-) No, I disagree. That would be very annoying, in my opinion, so I'm closing this report. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/ From unknown Mon Aug 18 11:31:06 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#8118: 24.0.50; `eval-minibuffer' should show message "Evaluating..." Resent-From: "Drew Adams" Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 20:59:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 8118 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: notabug To: "'Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen'" Cc: 8118@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 8118-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B8118.13106771242667 (code B ref 8118); Thu, 14 Jul 2011 20:59:01 +0000 Received: (at 8118) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Jul 2011 20:58:44 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QhSzb-0000gy-4E for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 16:58:43 -0400 Received: from acsinet15.oracle.com ([141.146.126.227]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QhSzY-0000gk-Sw for 8118@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 16:58:41 -0400 Received: from rtcsinet21.oracle.com (rtcsinet21.oracle.com [66.248.204.29]) by acsinet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.4/Switch-3.4.4) with ESMTP id p6EKwW18032433 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Thu, 14 Jul 2011 20:58:34 GMT Received: from acsmt357.oracle.com (acsmt357.oracle.com [141.146.40.157]) by rtcsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p6EKwVgC000982 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 14 Jul 2011 20:58:32 GMT Received: from abhmt119.oracle.com (abhmt119.oracle.com [141.146.116.71]) by acsmt357.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id p6EKwQJJ027263; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 15:58:26 -0500 Received: from dradamslap1 (/130.35.178.194) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 13:58:25 -0700 From: "Drew Adams" References: <688C63B78156440BB665B695EE59BED0@us.oracle.com> Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 13:58:25 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: AcxCVnS75rC6tPMdSjOOCAsMjDVYNAAEYCsQ X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6109 X-Source-IP: rtcsinet21.oracle.com [66.248.204.29] X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A02020A.4E1F587A.00E4:SCFSTAT5015188, ss=1, re=-4.000, fgs=0 X-Spam-Score: -4.3 (----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.3 (----) > > M-: (eval-minibuffer "Sexp: ") > > Type: global-map RET > > > > As you can see from this example, it would be good if we showed some > > feedback to let users know that Emacs is thinking. ;-) > > No, I disagree. That would be very annoying, in my opinion, so I'm > closing this report. Why would it be annoying? It is standard Emacs UI practice to show such a progress message: Loading foo.el... Loading foo.el...done From unknown Mon Aug 18 11:31:06 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#8118: 24.0.50; `eval-minibuffer' should show message "Evaluating..." Resent-From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 16:47:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 8118 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: notabug To: "Drew Adams" Cc: 8118@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 8118-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B8118.131083479723507 (code B ref 8118); Sat, 16 Jul 2011 16:47:02 +0000 Received: (at 8118) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Jul 2011 16:46:37 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qi80i-000676-RV for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 12:46:37 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qi80e-00066h-2L for 8118@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 12:46:32 -0400 Received: from cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no ([84.215.51.58] helo=quimbies.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Qi80S-00025R-C0; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 18:46:20 +0200 From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen In-Reply-To: (Drew Adams's message of "Thu, 14 Jul 2011 13:58:25 -0700") Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 18:46:09 +0200 Message-ID: References: <688C63B78156440BB665B695EE59BED0@us.oracle.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Now-Playing: Joni Mitchell's _Turbulent Indigo_: "Last Chance Lost" X-Hashcash: 1:23:110716:drew.adams@oracle.com::s08TdcL0+EeIb4Ni:00000000000000000000000000000000000000005OEl X-Hashcash: 1:23:110716:8118@debbugs.gnu.org::32mB5lWMLm9F4c7C:00000000000000000000000000000000000000000ZujM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1Qi80S-00025R-C0 X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1311439581.0516@cV9YTJpHTxvjHUBpyHA8Ow X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) "Drew Adams" writes: >> No, I disagree. That would be very annoying, in my opinion, so I'm >> closing this report. > > Why would it be annoying? > It is standard Emacs UI practice to show such a progress message: > > Loading foo.el... > > Loading foo.el...done Because `eval-minibuffer' displays the result in the minibuffer, and having it flash stuff there just before displaying would not be good. I'm closing this report again. If the emacs maintainers wish to reopen it again, they can do so. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/ From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jul 16 12:46:32 2011 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Jul 2011 16:46:33 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qi80e-00066s-4C for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 12:46:32 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qi80a-00066b-IJ for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 12:46:29 -0400 Received: from cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no ([84.215.51.58] helo=quimbies.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Qi80O-00025H-W4 for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 18:46:17 +0200 Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 18:46:16 +0200 Message-Id: To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #8118 X-MailScanner-ID: 1Qi80O-00025H-W4 X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1311439577.20058@PNbjbVCSKO4CszgGTTxGUQ X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) close 8118