From unknown Thu Aug 14 20:50:47 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#7958 <7958@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#7958 <7958@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: Unresponsive visual bell on OSX Reply-To: bug#7958 <7958@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2025 03:50:47 +0000 retitle 7958 Unresponsive visual bell on OSX reassign 7958 emacs submitter 7958 Neil Conway severity 7958 normal tag 7958 moreinfo unreproducible thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Feb 01 23:46:38 2011 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Feb 2011 04:46:38 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PkUc1-0000zP-FM for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 01 Feb 2011 23:46:37 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PkUTb-0000mX-Tk for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 01 Feb 2011 23:37:56 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PkUbj-0004LT-MB for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 01 Feb 2011 23:46:20 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.1 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]:43766) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PkUbj-0004Ku-9Q for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 01 Feb 2011 23:46:19 -0500 Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=46069 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PkUba-0008HK-DK for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Feb 2011 23:46:17 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PkUVV-0003Ez-09 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Feb 2011 23:39:55 -0500 Received: from gateway0.eecs.berkeley.edu ([169.229.60.87]:58458) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PkUVU-0003Ei-NG for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Feb 2011 23:39:52 -0500 Received: from mail-qw0-f41.google.com (mail-qw0-f41.google.com [209.85.216.41]) (authenticated bits=0) by gateway0.EECS.Berkeley.EDU (8.14.4/8.13.5) with ESMTP id p124dmm5004579 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2011 20:39:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by qwa26 with SMTP id 26so7271544qwa.0 for ; Tue, 01 Feb 2011 20:39:47 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.233.74 with SMTP id jx10mr6124624qcb.97.1296621587765; Tue, 01 Feb 2011 20:39:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.229.230.138 with HTTP; Tue, 1 Feb 2011 20:39:47 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 20:39:47 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Unresponsive visual bell on OSX From: Neil Conway To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 9 X-Received-From: 169.229.60.87 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 199.232.76.165 X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 01 Feb 2011 23:46:37 -0500 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) I'm using Emacs 23.2 (from MacPorts) on OSX 10.6.6. My .emacs includes "(setq visible-bell t)", but when I do something that causes the bell to be triggered, Emacs becomes very unresponsive (sometimes hanging for 3 or 4 seconds, usually (much) longer). Steps to repro: 1. Set visual bell to true 2. Run Emacs in console mode; I've tested using Terminal.app and iTerm2 3. Open a reasonably-sized file (e.g., 10 lines) and scroll past the end of the file, e.g., using C-v Instead of a visual bell, emacs instead refuses to respond to user input for a lengthy period of time. If I attach with gdb, a typical call stack looks like: #0 0x00007fff88c81fca in __semwait_signal () #1 0x00007fff88c81e59 in nanosleep () #2 0x0000000100544fe5 in napms () #3 0x00000001005494fb in delay_output () #4 0x0000000100549738 in tputs () #5 0x0000000100067007 in tty_ring_bell () #6 0x0000000100005ae5 in Fding () #7 0x00000001000f3713 in Feval () [...] I can actually get emacs to operate normally by forcing the bottom few stack frames to return via "ret". If I remove (setq visual-bell t) from my .emacs, I don't see this behavior. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Feb 02 14:39:37 2011 Received: (at 7958) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Feb 2011 19:39:37 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PkiYC-0006su-U0 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 02 Feb 2011 14:39:37 -0500 Received: from smtprelay-h21.telenor.se ([195.54.99.196]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PkiYA-0006sf-MW for 7958@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 02 Feb 2011 14:39:35 -0500 Received: from ipb4.telenor.se (ipb4.telenor.se [195.54.127.167]) by smtprelay-h21.telenor.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D14EC93B for <7958@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 2 Feb 2011 20:47:59 +0100 (CET) X-SENDER-IP: [85.225.45.100] X-LISTENER: [smtp.bredband.net] X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AmQ4AINDSU1V4S1kPGdsb2JhbACIYJw8DAEBAQE1L7wahVMEjwuIOA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.60,415,1291590000"; d="scan'208";a="1711352088" Received: from c-642de155.25-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se (HELO coolsville.localdomain) ([85.225.45.100]) by ipb4.telenor.se with ESMTP; 02 Feb 2011 20:47:59 +0100 Received: from [172.20.199.13] (zeplin [172.20.199.13]) by coolsville.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DB58C7FA05A; Wed, 2 Feb 2011 20:47:58 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4D49B4EE.60701@swipnet.se> Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2011 20:47:58 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jan_Dj=E4rv?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; sv-SE; rv:1.9.2.14) Gecko/20110123 Thunderbird/3.1.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Neil Conway Subject: Re: bug#7958: Unresponsive visual bell on OSX References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 7958 Cc: 7958@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) I can't reproduce this, starting from -Q and evalling (setq visible-bell t) and making the bell ding. This on trunk and the emacs-23 branch. Can you reproduce this when starting with -Q? Jan D. Neil Conway skrev 2011-02-02 05.39: > I'm using Emacs 23.2 (from MacPorts) on OSX 10.6.6. My .emacs includes > "(setq visible-bell t)", but when I do something that causes the bell > to be triggered, Emacs becomes very unresponsive (sometimes hanging > for 3 or 4 seconds, usually (much) longer). > > Steps to repro: > 1. Set visual bell to true > 2. Run Emacs in console mode; I've tested using Terminal.app and iTerm2 > 3. Open a reasonably-sized file (e.g., 10 lines) and scroll past the > end of the file, e.g., using C-v > > Instead of a visual bell, emacs instead refuses to respond to user > input for a lengthy period of time. If I attach with gdb, a typical > call stack looks like: > > #0 0x00007fff88c81fca in __semwait_signal () > #1 0x00007fff88c81e59 in nanosleep () > #2 0x0000000100544fe5 in napms () > #3 0x00000001005494fb in delay_output () > #4 0x0000000100549738 in tputs () > #5 0x0000000100067007 in tty_ring_bell () > #6 0x0000000100005ae5 in Fding () > #7 0x00000001000f3713 in Feval () > [...] > > I can actually get emacs to operate normally by forcing the bottom few > stack frames to return via "ret". > > If I remove (setq visual-bell t) from my .emacs, I don't see this behavior. > > From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Feb 03 18:48:13 2014 Received: (at 7958) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Feb 2014 23:48:13 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48445 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WATFM-0002sQ-OL for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 03 Feb 2014 18:48:12 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:35899) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WATFJ-0002sF-92 for 7958@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 03 Feb 2014 18:48:10 -0500 Received: from [204.14.154.233] (helo=building.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WATF4-0001Tg-45; Tue, 04 Feb 2014 00:47:54 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Jan =?iso-8859-1?Q?Dj=E4rv?= Subject: Re: bug#7958: Unresponsive visual bell on OSX References: <4D49B4EE.60701@swipnet.se> Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2014 15:46:55 -0800 In-Reply-To: <4D49B4EE.60701@swipnet.se> ("Jan \=\?iso-8859-1\?Q\?Dj\=E4rv\=22's\?\= message of "Wed, 02 Feb 2011 20:47:58 +0100") Message-ID: <87ob2n21zk.fsf@building.gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13001 (Ma Gnus v0.10) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MailScanner-ID: 1WATF4-0001Tg-45 X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1392076074.97557@DKOc9iL2kx883HIVNmzFsg X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 7958 Cc: Neil Conway , 7958@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Jan Dj=E4rv writes: > I can't reproduce this, starting from -Q and evalling (setq > visible-bell t) and making the bell ding. This on trunk and the > emacs-23 branch. > > Can you reproduce this when starting with -Q? More information was requested three years ago, but no further progress has been made, so I'm closing this bug report. If this problem is still present, please reopen the bug report. --=20 (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/ From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Feb 03 18:48:16 2014 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Feb 2014 23:48:16 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48448 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WATFQ-0002sg-1W for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 03 Feb 2014 18:48:16 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:35906) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WATFO-0002sY-QD for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 03 Feb 2014 18:48:15 -0500 Received: from [204.14.154.233] (helo=building.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WATFA-0001Tn-Sy for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 04 Feb 2014 00:48:01 +0100 Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2014 15:47:03 -0800 Message-Id: <87mwi721zc.fsf@building.gnus.org> To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #7958 X-MailScanner-ID: 1WATFA-0001Tn-Sy X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1392076081.46793@b+RcjbRdsUAZPZ4QVD2tRA X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) close 7958 From unknown Thu Aug 14 20:50:47 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. 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