GNU bug report logs - #79485
31.0.50; Loaded files inherit read-symbol-shorthands

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Package: emacs;

Reported by: "David J. Rosenbaum" <djr7c4 <at> gmail.com>

Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2025 23:59:01 UTC

Severity: normal

Found in version 31.0.50

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Message #20 received at 79485 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: João Távora <joaotavora <at> gmail.com>
To: David Rosenbaum <djr7c4 <at> gmail.com>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>, 79485 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#79485: 31.0.50; Loaded files inherit read-symbol-shorthands
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2025 18:29:43 +0100
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On Mon, Sep 22, 2025 at 6:04 PM David Rosenbaum <djr7c4 <at> gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Also they were designed to abbreviate prefixes, not full symbol names,
so the db idea is probably not going to work. As far as I remember, these
things were well explained in the manual...
>
> Intended or not, shorthands are being used this way by packages authors.
For example, see cond-let and llama.


Are these packages even in Emacs?

> > By the way, I understand the problem easily now. The symbol 'dbus' has
the prefix 'db' and when the example file is read 'dbus' becomes
'cl-destructuring-bindus'. This happens at read-time well before evaluation
or byte-compilation.
>
> (require 'dbus) isn't in the example file though. It's in tramp-gvfs
which was precompiled when emacs was built. It is tramp-gvfs that is
required from the example file.

I see the problem and have reproduced it.  It's a bug.  And I don't
understand it.  The `tramp-gvfs` file should have been read long before the
shorthand was established in in the example file.
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