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Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.72.192.78; envelope-from=michael_heerdegen@web.de; helo=mout.web.de X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H5=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_RPBL_BLOCKED=0.001, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_SAFE_BLOCKED=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Hello, unless I'm somehow confused... the docstring of dired-find-subdir says: | If non-nil, Dired always finds a directory in a buffer of its own. | If nil, Dired finds the directory as a subdirectory in some other buffer | if it is present as one. But if you look at `dired-find-buffer-nocreate', you see that it's exactly the other way round. Also the plain name suggests the opposite meaning. Look: In 0a44133e626 "(dired-find-subdir): Doc fix." (Richard M. Stallman 1994-10-26) this part of the docstring has been changed, the docstring version before that commit started with | *If non-nil, Dired does not make a new buffer for a directory if it | can be found (perhaps as subdir) in some existing Dired buffer. which was correct. The new version looks like a typo. Or I just don't understand the words of the recent version. TIA, Michael. From unknown Thu Sep 18 21:16:30 2025 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.505 (Entity 5.505) X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org From: help-debbugs@gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System) To: michael_heerdegen@web.de Subject: bug#79440: closed (Re: bug#79440: 31.0.50; Docstring of dired-find-subdir confuses the values) Message-ID: References: <868qiir5ln.fsf@gnu.org> <87348qvpx9.fsf@web.de> X-Gnu-PR-Message: they-closed 79440 X-Gnu-PR-Package: emacs Reply-To: 79440@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2025 10:49:02 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1757760542-5228-1" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1757760542-5228-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Your bug report #79440: 31.0.50; Docstring of dired-find-subdir confuses the values which was filed against the emacs package, has been closed. The explanation is attached below, along with your original report. If you require more details, please reply to 79440@debbugs.gnu.org. --=20 79440: https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D79440 GNU Bug Tracking System Contact help-debbugs@gnu.org with problems ------------=_1757760542-5228-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at 79440-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Sep 2025 10:48:15 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53891 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1uxNni-0001K3-Pf for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 13 Sep 2025 06:48:15 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:52342) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1uxNng-0001JR-01 for 79440-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 13 Sep 2025 06:48:12 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1uxNna-0007xF-K0; Sat, 13 Sep 2025 06:48:06 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=XrlMmGEqkYDIK6voKOh+85bShZmZJWGBFyPCXpSTS80=; b=GFOr9x2PeqT1 yLKCu+sB4GnFlIqWXvHu9JT/l3LEPR9cTO/Mv5E7ILTqaVfArof2GFW1vVTZQ/4GGkxSwOsDFv0Mm MPYqbNLp3Q3SodMGrDhWgQ54QUkhPt/oIhZaCliG2m5ml+/RJeIweT7m9paUk02yudnWvlTHIuyyY 2U+kjdkBY99GVK68HpimMxQTajeEmwEeQ0jfbX5s5dWDkv88wI0n5VeQJCrWMSlkJMi+ALSSX62ms jbh3sk+L8FhlKu5h1LY3xA2q28a7JpdASbWu4e1yGCIV+nYm1koFtdHWrLpywhnyKYsJ1Nu+e1WCW vlSn25mvmCwR9FCSzHlMnQ==; Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2025 13:48:04 +0300 Message-Id: <868qiir5ln.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: michael_heerdegen@web.de In-Reply-To: <87348qvpx9.fsf@web.de> (bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org) Subject: Re: bug#79440: 31.0.50; Docstring of dired-find-subdir confuses the values References: <87348qvpx9.fsf@web.de> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 79440-done Cc: 79440-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2025 08:15:30 +0200 > From: Michael Heerdegen via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, > the Swiss army knife of text editors" > > > Hello, > > unless I'm somehow confused... > > the docstring of dired-find-subdir says: > > | If non-nil, Dired always finds a directory in a buffer of its own. > | If nil, Dired finds the directory as a subdirectory in some other buffer > | if it is present as one. > > But if you look at `dired-find-buffer-nocreate', you see that it's > exactly the other way round. Also the plain name suggests the opposite > meaning. Look: In > > 0a44133e626 "(dired-find-subdir): Doc fix." (Richard M. Stallman 1994-10-26) > > this part of the docstring has been changed, the docstring version > before that commit started with > > | *If non-nil, Dired does not make a new buffer for a directory if it > | can be found (perhaps as subdir) in some existing Dired buffer. > > which was correct. The new version looks like a typo. Or I just don't > understand the words of the recent version. 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RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_RPBL_BLOCKED=0.001, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_SAFE_BLOCKED=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: michael_heerdegen@web.de Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Hello, unless I'm somehow confused... the docstring of dired-find-subdir says: | If non-nil, Dired always finds a directory in a buffer of its own. | If nil, Dired finds the directory as a subdirectory in some other buffer | if it is present as one. But if you look at `dired-find-buffer-nocreate', you see that it's exactly the other way round. Also the plain name suggests the opposite meaning. Look: In 0a44133e626 "(dired-find-subdir): Doc fix." (Richard M. Stallman 1994-10-26) this part of the docstring has been changed, the docstring version before that commit started with | *If non-nil, Dired does not make a new buffer for a directory if it | can be found (perhaps as subdir) in some existing Dired buffer. which was correct. The new version looks like a typo. Or I just don't understand the words of the recent version. 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"Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) Eli Zaretskii writes: > Thanks, fixed on the emacs-30 branch, and closing the bug. LGTM, thank you. Michael.