From unknown Sat Sep 13 13:16:22 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#79421 <79421@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#79421 <79421@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: 30.1; display-timer Reply-To: bug#79421 <79421@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2025 20:16:22 +0000 retitle 79421 30.1; display-timer reassign 79421 emacs submitter 79421 Francesco Potort=C3=AC severity 79421 normal thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Sep 10 07:32:33 2025 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Sep 2025 11:32:33 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36617 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1uwJ3u-0007FI-0J for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 10 Sep 2025 07:32:33 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:470:142::17]:43198) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1uwJ3n-0007EL-OU for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 10 Sep 2025 07:32:27 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1uwJ3c-0002Ul-Ks for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 10 Sep 2025 07:32:13 -0400 Received: from plesklin7.if2.ehiweb.it ([79.98.45.17] helo=plesklin7.ehiweb.it) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1uwJ3W-0006U5-2M for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 10 Sep 2025 07:32:12 -0400 Received: from tucano.isti.cnr.it (tucano.isti.cnr.it [146.48.81.102]) by plesklin7.ehiweb.it (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4DB241C2319 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2025 13:31:58 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=potorti.it; s=default; t=1757503918; bh=g5g44xMixMm/RqrYw91M1cQ5HT6Zg2L8i5cq2rXm45Q=; h=Received:From:To:Subject; b=s2nLCF6I77NGl9cDuzdG0oU8Gipu/8tTUfiGunHlNJRRFKl4xHgZ0bNja8jtOC32n Nd3o2U81QffuD5YYzJXXO7IC95s0kjQzu84H2nvPIu0GMgZL7OniQduM8IBxq0lgn5 yisFeyKFEW982ClUkHZD/1eWwHWouvo3e+fIBEfs= Authentication-Results: plesklin7.ehiweb.it; spf=pass (sender IP is 146.48.81.102) smtp.mailfrom=pot@potorti.it smtp.helo=tucano.isti.cnr.it Received-SPF: pass (plesklin7.ehiweb.it: connection is authenticated) Received: from pot by tucano.isti.cnr.it with local (Exim 4.98.2) (envelope-from ) id 1uwJ3O-00000005eqq-0Qk2 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 10 Sep 2025 13:31:58 +0200 From: =?utf-8?Q?Francesco_Potort=C3=AC?= Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2025 13:31:58 +0200 To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 30.1; display-timer X-Debbugs-Cc: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-fingerprint: 4B02 6187 5C03 D6B1 2E31 7666 09DF 2DC9 BE21 6115 Message-Id: X-PPP-Message-ID: <175750391843.1003644.1047875663935274317@plesklin7.ehiweb.it> X-PPP-Vhost: potorti.it Received-SPF: pass client-ip=79.98.45.17; envelope-from=pot@potorti.it; helo=plesklin7.ehiweb.it X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_RPBL_BLOCKED=0.001, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_SAFE_BLOCKED=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) When I read mail with Rmail, I sometimes get a message "timer--activate: Ti= mer already activate", which I supose is linked to display-time. Even if rarely, I had situations in which the mail status in the mode line = was not updated and I cured that using M-x display-time RET I suspect the two above issues are related. This time I had a look at list-timers and played with it, by hitting 'g' re= peatedly until I saw this: -1d 23h 59m 59.0s 1m display-time-event-handler 59.0s 1m appt-check 48m 57.2s 1h url-cookie-write-file 17h 7m 59.0s 1d diary 17h 8m 59.0s 1d sunrise-sunset * 0.1s t csv-field-index * 0.1s t show-paren-function * 0.5s t # * 2.0s 2.0s garbage-collect * 30.0s - desktop-auto-save * 1m 0.0s t bibtex-parse-buffers-stealthily I have no idea if the negative time is normal, but at first sight it does n= ot look so, and I though it was nice to report. Note that I have written a display-time-mail-function which is heavier than= the standerd one: rather than looking for files existence it counts the nu= mber of "^From " patterns by calling grep, do not know if this could nake t= hings more complex. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D ;; Display status of mailboxes on the mode line. ;; The mailboxes are those contained in ~/.emacs.d/mail (defun display-time-mail-files () "This function builds the mail indicator on the modeline. It should be assigned to `display-time-mail-function' which, when returning non-nil, makes the string in display-time-mail-string to be shown. Always returns non-nil." (let ((separator "|") (mail-dir "~/.emacs.d/mail")) (setq display-time-mail-string ;; Create a string like c|c|c|c where | is a separator and c is a charac= ter ;; indicating how many emails are in mail-file, for all mail files in ma= il-dir ;; Files are sorted alphabetically, the third character of their name is= that ;; file's indicator mail-char in the created string. (mapconcat (lambda (mail-file) (let ((mail-num (string-to-number (shell-command-to-string (concat "grep --count '^From ' " mail-fil= e)))) (mail-char (substring mail-file 26 27))) (pcase mail-num (0 (downcase mail-char)) ((pred (> 10)) (number-to-string mail-num)) ; ((pred (> 10)) "=E2=96=81") ; ((pred (> 20)) "=E2=96=82") ((pred (> 20)) "=E2=96=83") ((pred (> 35)) "=E2=96=84") ((pred (> 50)) "=E2=96=85") ; ((pred (> 100)) "=E2=96=86") ; ((pred (> 200)) "=E2=96=87") ; ((pred (> 400)) "=E2=96=88") (_ (upcase mail-char))))) (directory-files mail-dir t "^[0-9]+\.") separator)))) (setopt display-time-mail-function 'display-time-mail-files) ; display-time-mail-directory "~/Mail/Emacs-check-mail" =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D In GNU Emacs 30.1 (build 2, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, X toolkit, cairo version 1= .18.4, Xaw3d scroll bars) 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Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36765 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1uwJLD-00005N-Uc for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 10 Sep 2025 07:50:24 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:42860) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1uwJL9-0008TR-RW for 79421@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 10 Sep 2025 07:50:21 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1uwJKz-00017G-59; Wed, 10 Sep 2025 07:50:09 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=mAKomslrGGD9HSq/XSSdjMCL++58vB5QMC2W81iUM14=; b=INe3GZ/QK8gjyRNKnBGN JDRZJJNY7t0H3/Ej0BfjlPB9gHAHMoajeDrVRh+XMCkbbzjZb1ZEgLwq7kJfdQJNgpAjIh8J2M4V0 SZaHvQU2BL8oRp9CmcSTzmy0KZrlEqmitW2W8hHBKb0ZnvFY7EROxw9uqYio0aAmO+b0WzCcRsx33 gPOP3o9aDEw3ZFtsI/xgnYY4lwnyUXtsaIoW+WiVp7Fa89vni2HN2b1tRjd8ktY+wiH6tmJznqEgz kLjqombGp4rvBE6/G5Uu+xkD0DDT+qIjC3Fa7NleHbrKcnZHpdB6NWVDMnjZVAsw/1ltxo/AW9fdM sQqyUKYedWStyw==; Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2025 14:50:06 +0300 Message-Id: <86tt1abk7l.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Francesco =?utf-8?Q?Potort=C3=AC?= In-Reply-To: (message from Francesco =?utf-8?Q?Potort=C3=AC?= on Wed, 10 Sep 2025 13:31:58 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#79421: 30.1; display-timer References: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 79421 Cc: 79421@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Francesco Potortì > Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2025 13:31:58 +0200 > > When I read mail with Rmail, I sometimes get a message "timer--activate: Timer already activate", which I supose is linked to display-time. I have display-time running in my production sessions, but never saw such a message, FWIW. But then my setup doesn't check for email as part of display-time, it only updates the time and the system load shown on the mode line. > Even if rarely, I had situations in which the mail status in the mode line was not updated and I cured that using M-x display-time RET > > I suspect the two above issues are related. I'm not sure. How about running with debug-on-message set to catch this message, and when it does, show the backtrace? > This time I had a look at list-timers and played with it, by hitting 'g' repeatedly until I saw this: > > -1d 23h 59m 59.0s 1m display-time-event-handler > 59.0s 1m appt-check > 48m 57.2s 1h url-cookie-write-file > 17h 7m 59.0s 1d diary > 17h 8m 59.0s 1d sunrise-sunset > * 0.1s t csv-field-index > * 0.1s t show-paren-function > * 0.5s t # > * 2.0s 2.0s garbage-collect > * 30.0s - desktop-auto-save > * 1m 0.0s t bibtex-parse-buffers-stealthily > > I have no idea if the negative time is normal, but at first sight it does not look so, and I though it was nice to report. A timer with a negative time will never fire. Does your system ever go to sleep? If so, could it be that these negative values appear after the system is awaken? And what is your value of timer-max-repeats? If nothing else help, try writing a function which will periodically check this value, and tell you when it becomes negative. Then maybe you could figure out what causes it, and we can take it from there. > Note that I have written a display-time-mail-function which is heavier than the standerd one: rather than looking for files existence it counts the number of "^From " patterns by calling grep, do not know if this could nake things more complex. Not a very good idea, IMO: functions run off timers should not be expensive, because they delay the Emacs response to input.