GNU bug report logs - #79412
30.2; `define-globalized-minor-mode' does not respect `:variable'

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Package: emacs;

Reported by: inet0 <at> qq.com

Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2025 02:01:03 UTC

Severity: normal

Found in version 30.2

Done: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>

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From: help-debbugs <at> gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System)
To: inet0 <at> qq.com
Subject: bug#79412: closed (Re: bug#79412: 30.2; `define-globalized-minor-mode'
 does not respect `:variable')
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2025 19:25:02 +0000
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Your bug report

#79412: 30.2; `define-globalized-minor-mode' does not respect `:variable'

which was filed against the emacs package, has been closed.

The explanation is attached below, along with your original report.
If you require more details, please reply to 79412 <at> debbugs.gnu.org.

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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: inet0 <at> qq.com, 79412-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#79412: 30.2; `define-globalized-minor-mode' does not
 respect `:variable'
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2025 22:24:25 +0300
> From: Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca>
> Cc: inet0 <at> qq.com,  79412 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2025 13:50:25 -0400
> 
> >> > So you mean this:
> >> >
> >> > diff --git a/lisp/emacs-lisp/easy-mmode.el b/lisp/emacs-lisp/easy-mmode.el
> >> > index ca92130..de77eb3 100644
> >> > --- a/lisp/emacs-lisp/easy-mmode.el
> >> > +++ b/lisp/emacs-lisp/easy-mmode.el
> >> > @@ -570,7 +570,7 @@ define-globalized-minor-mode
> >> >  	 (dolist (buf (buffer-list))
> >> >  	   (with-current-buffer buf
> >> >               (if ,global-mode (funcall ,turn-on-function)
> >> > -               (when ,mode (,mode -1)))))
> >> > +               (when ,mode (,MODE-variable -1)))))
> >> >           ,@body)
> >> >  
> >> >         ,(when predicate
> >> 
> >> No, like
> >> 
> >>     (when ,MODE-variable (,mode -1))
> >
> > And what about this one:
> >
> > 	 ;; Go through existing buffers.
> > 	 (dolist (buf (buffer-list))
> > 	   (with-current-buffer buf
> >              (if ,global-mode (funcall ,turn-on-function)
> >                (when ,mode (,MODE-variable -1)))))
> >          ,@body)
> 
> Hmm... actually this is the same as the one further above.
> AFAICT there's only one such piece of code in `easy-mmode.el`.

Thanks, I hope I've fixed this now.

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From: inet0 <at> qq.com
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 30.2; `define-globalized-minor-mode' does not respect `:variable'
Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2025 03:40:36 +0800
Hi there,

I am using Emacs as a GUI application on Android (distributed by F-Droid
if that matters) so `emacs -Q' is not an option, but the symptoms should
be reproduced by

(1) evaluating the program segments below, then

(2) typing `C-c b' twice.

(define-minor-mode bidi-display-reordering-mode
  nil
  :variable bidi-display-reordering)

(define-globalized-minor-mode global-bidi-display-reordering-mode
  bidi-display-reordering-mode
  (lambda () (bidi-display-reordering-mode 1))
  :variable bidi-display-reordering)

(keymap-global-set "C-c b" 'global-bidi-display-reordering-mode)

Buffer *Messages*:

Loading gnus...done
For information about GNU Emacs and the GNU system, type C-h C-a.
Global Bidi-Display-Reordering mode enabled
if: Symbol’s value as variable is void: bidi-display-reordering-mode

Buffer *Backtrace*:

Debugger entered--Lisp error: (void-variable bidi-display-reordering-mode)
  (if bidi-display-reordering-mode (progn (bidi-display-reordering-mode -1)))
  (if global-bidi-display-reordering-mode (bidi-display-reordering-mode 1) (if bidi-display-reordering-mode (progn (bidi-display-reordering-mode -1))))
  (save-current-buffer (set-buffer buf) (if global-bidi-display-reordering-mode (bidi-display-reordering-mode 1) (if bidi-display-reordering-mode (progn (bidi-display-reordering-mode -1)))))
  (let ((buf (car tail))) (save-current-buffer (set-buffer buf) (if global-bidi-display-reordering-mode (bidi-display-reordering-mode 1) (if bidi-display-reordering-mode (progn (bidi-display-reordering-mode -1))))) (setq tail (cdr tail)))
  (while tail (let ((buf (car tail))) (save-current-buffer (set-buffer buf) (if global-bidi-display-reordering-mode (bidi-display-reordering-mode 1) (if bidi-display-reordering-mode (progn (bidi-display-reordering-mode -1))))) (setq tail (cdr tail))))
  (let ((tail (buffer-list))) (while tail (let ((buf (car tail))) (save-current-buffer (set-buffer buf) (if global-bidi-display-reordering-mode (bidi-display-reordering-mode 1) (if bidi-display-reordering-mode (progn (bidi-display-reordering-mode -1))))) (setq tail (cdr tail)))))
  (let ((last-message (current-message))) (progn (set-default 'global-bidi-display-reordering-mode (cond ((eq arg 'toggle) (not (default-value 'global-bidi-display-reordering-mode))) ((and (numberp arg) (< arg 1)) nil) (t t)))) (if (boundp 'global-minor-modes) (progn (setq global-minor-modes (delq 'global-bidi-display-reordering-mode global-minor-modes)) (if (default-value 'global-bidi-display-reordering-mode) (progn (setq global-minor-modes (cons 'global-bidi-display-reordering-mode global-minor-modes)))))) (if global-bidi-display-reordering-mode (add-hook 'after-change-major-mode-hook #'global-bidi-display-reordering-mode-enable-in-buffer) (remove-hook 'after-change-major-mode-hook #'global-bidi-display-reordering-mode-enable-in-buffer)) (let ((tail (buffer-list))) (while tail (let ((buf (car tail))) (save-current-buffer (set-buffer buf) (if global-bidi-display-reordering-mode (bidi-display-reordering-mode 1) (if bidi-display-reordering-mode (progn (bidi-display-reordering-mode -1))))) (setq tail (cdr tail))))) (run-hooks 'global-bidi-display-reordering-mode-hook (if (default-value 'global-bidi-display-reordering-mode) 'global-bidi-display-reordering-mode-on-hook 'global-bidi-display-reordering-mode-off-hook)) (if (called-interactively-p 'any) (progn (customize-mark-as-set 'global-bidi-display-reordering-mode) (if (and (current-message) (not (equal last-message (current-message)))) nil (let ((local "")) (message "%s %sabled%s" "Global Bidi-Display-Reordering mode" (if (default-value 'global-bidi-display-reordering-mode) "en" "dis") local))))))
  global-bidi-display-reordering-mode(toggle)
  funcall-interactively(global-bidi-display-reordering-mode toggle)
  call-interactively(global-bidi-display-reordering-mode nil nil)
  command-execute(global-bidi-display-reordering-mode)

One would expect a line `Global Glyphless-Display mode disabled' in
buffer *Messages*, but Emacs only complains about the variable
`bidi-display-reordering-mode' being void, and the corresponding
buffer-local mode is not disabled either.

After searching on the Internet and on the GNU Bug Tracker, I came
across this related bug report:

https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=29081

Notice the use of keyword `:variable' in the form
`define-globalized-minor-mode' whose paired value, according to info
node `(elisp)Defining Minor Modes', should match that of the same
keyword in the corresponding form `define-minor-mode'.

With that in mind, I suspect that the buffer-local mode name is
mistakenly referenced instead of the name specified by keyword
`:variable', thus causing a void-variable error. I have found something
suspicious at source code `lisp/emacs-lisp/easy-mmode.el:569:23':

	 ;; Go through existing buffers.
	 (dolist (buf (buffer-list))
	   (with-current-buffer buf
             (if ,global-mode (funcall ,turn-on-function)
               (when ,mode (,mode -1)))))

It seems that `mode' at the predicate position of `when' should really
be `MODE-variable'!

As an aside, the docstring of `define-globalized-minor-mode' is a bit
off the description in the ELisp manual. (Jumping between `C-h f' and
`C-h i m el i' is annoying, isn't it?)

The manual says:

     By default, the buffer-local minor mode variable that says whether
     the mode is switched on or off is the same as the name of the mode
     itself.  Use ‘:variable VARIABLE’ if that’s not the case–some minor
     modes use a different variable to store this state information.

While in docstring:

Other keywords have the same meaning as in ‘define-minor-mode’,
which see.

Clearly, `:variable' in `define-globalized-minor-mode' does not have the
same meaning as in `define-minor-mode', otherwise you would be
specifying the mode variable of the global mode, which is not the case.


In GNU Emacs 30.2 (build 1, aarch64-unknown-linux-android22) of
 2025-08-18 built on bookworm
Repository revision: 636f166cfc86aa90d63f592fd99f3fdd9ef95ebd
Repository branch: HEAD
Windowing system distributor 'Xiaomi', version 33.0.0
System Description: Redmi/alioth/alioth:13/TKQ1.220829.002/V14.0.8.0.TKHCNXM:user/release-keys

Configured using:
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