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The docstring for cl-defgeneric reads:

(cl-defgener= ic NAME ARGS [DOC-STRING] [OPTIONS-AND-METHODS...] &rest
DEFAULT-BOD= Y)
[...]
With this implementation the ARGS are currently ignored.
= [...]

However, this is not the case, as seen in this excerpt from an= ielm buffer:

ELISP> (cl-defgeneric foo (x y) (+ x y))
foo
= ELISP> (foo 1 2)
3 (#o3, #x3, ?\C-c)

In GNU Emacs 29.4 (build = 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.24.41,
=C2=A0cairo version 1.18.0= ) of 2025-01-29 built on system76-pc
Windowing system distributor 'T= he X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.12302006
System Description: Ubun= tu 24.04.1 LTS

Configured using:
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Configured features:
CAIRO DBUS FREETYPE= GIF GLIB GMP GNUTLS GSETTINGS HARFBUZZ JPEG JSON
LIBSELINUX LIBXML2 MOD= ULES NOTIFY INOTIFY PDUMPER PNG RSVG SECCOMP SOUND
SQLITE3 THREADS TIFF = TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS TREE_SITTER WEBP X11 XDBE XIM
XINPUT2 XPM GTK3 ZLIB<= br>
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--000000000000050653063bf72abf-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Aug 10 01:13:01 2025 Received: (at 79206) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Aug 2025 05:13:01 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43639 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ukyMe-0004sA-VN for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 10 Aug 2025 01:13:01 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:47710) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ukyMb-0004rs-3k for 79206@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 10 Aug 2025 01:12:59 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ukyMU-00082N-E5; Sun, 10 Aug 2025 01:12:50 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=LlEA1wZqRkEtDuP1OYeSeGTU8hF3ElK8qQ+6RJA2U2I=; b=Cw+oSFDrlvbg F/sVRa/JqQ7GYsYXh+Gcy75dGAf6aM0vnYlvkW1+KxotoDSmfakwOltcAm5VnwnmIkGXL1vUmRLtV f3EMtvRIC/kqEQDODfjuqD/7yiyeMUue4cHBBXHc2vhP+I4+nOPPtb2dI6fvevk1XkqQ9g79T7Ggb kmQLXeCL4rYER6SxzLcg1BvHNA/aZY3TWPtc82RKfNCWFq/x6yxtdwDKoB+yBfPapiXyp66BBneF/ DALzCrAFxKCcvubL9si53Xj9lqP28/f6CBKHXYwHaD6ksZXMnEWxJCLTW+RgGsY3bYnyraDElTcTe PpJv4hBendr6TgCTRzQyug==; Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2025 08:12:46 +0300 Message-Id: <861ppjlpyp.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Sean McAfee , Stefan Monnier In-Reply-To: (message from Sean McAfee on Sat, 9 Aug 2025 16:36:37 -0700) Subject: Re: bug#79206: 29.4; cl-defgeneric docstring is incorrect References: X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 79206 Cc: 79206@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Sean McAfee > Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2025 16:36:37 -0700 > > The docstring for cl-defgeneric reads: > > (cl-defgeneric NAME ARGS [DOC-STRING] [OPTIONS-AND-METHODS...] &rest > DEFAULT-BODY) > [...] > With this implementation the ARGS are currently ignored. > [...] > > However, this is not the case, as seen in this excerpt from an ielm buffer: > > ELISP> (cl-defgeneric foo (x y) (+ x y)) > foo > ELISP> (foo 1 2) > 3 (#o3, #x3, ?\C-c) It also says "A generic function has no body", right? Stefan, I guess that the arguments are ignored if there's no body, is that right? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Aug 10 03:47:15 2025 Received: (at 79206) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Aug 2025 07:47:16 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43839 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ul0lv-0003l9-CL for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 10 Aug 2025 03:47:15 -0400 Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:8857) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ul0lp-0003ks-N4 for 79206@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 10 Aug 2025 03:47:13 -0400 Received: from pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 390D880185; Sun, 10 Aug 2025 03:47:03 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1754812018; bh=5B6JhSOD6XAh1BhPPSdmVzPNtajL5CxYXY4t2PsEIcM=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=MgrzOm8lX9ABH+BPYiPfgRisTJT3ovxjTZDVTVbprTM+j8klwRI5yZHnAokNIPjWc 1oqgv3kIlvFGGkW7Cn/kOBSNtOgquTTRCAaL2C/cInMViESCBqNDpqD2bBhG7ZI2mF dh+L7nSlOthB6LoP4aDigyqTP2iYAr5DoFNxMBqsRRETz11eN4hziM0KG05y1mCCbA oRn64qk3jIS8nLunxMvaeQWpNKq6VViNJ1BOlr8iADFvfGnYyRgluuM7bDdNEMQ4W1 6yxcSKrF2oUsZ9ybtAT4NFyYXZIe20l7bARmDn/jRHkth5sTourO3nde69quLKNyUt d9bHMHlI8qOVA== Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 45E1F805B1; Sun, 10 Aug 2025 03:46:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from asado (dyn.144-85-248-254.dsl.vtx.ch [144.85.248.254]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1C9E312090F; Sun, 10 Aug 2025 03:46:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Stefan Monnier To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#79206: 29.4; cl-defgeneric docstring is incorrect In-Reply-To: <861ppjlpyp.fsf@gnu.org> Message-ID: References: <861ppjlpyp.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2025 03:46:54 -0400 User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-SPAM-INFO: Spam detection results: 0 ALL_TRUSTED -1 Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP AWL 0.004 Adjusted score from AWL reputation of From: address BAYES_00 -1.9 Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% DKIM_SIGNED 0.1 Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid DKIM_VALID -0.1 Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature DKIM_VALID_AU -0.1 Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from author's domain DKIM_VALID_EF -0.1 Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from envelope-from domain X-SPAM-LEVEL: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 79206 Cc: Sean McAfee , 79206@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Stefan, I guess that the arguments are ignored if there's no body, is > that right? That's right. Stefan From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Aug 10 04:46:50 2025 Received: (at 79206-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Aug 2025 08:46:50 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43941 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ul1hZ-0006VI-TR for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 10 Aug 2025 04:46:50 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:50514) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ul1hW-0006V3-P9 for 79206-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 10 Aug 2025 04:46:47 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ul1hR-0002cO-Dl; Sun, 10 Aug 2025 04:46:41 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=IJLej5zAOB2yVtCj9/msj5Yw9T5aXBvAbYBEymtTnKM=; b=Ia2zXzoHT6xw JmSbdBZT6xye6EhpAoOZeNfyapNMoXWavXi1NKU7qRtAyUKTudMLblev+NMb4yTf473z+5uAjeV1e hYaEFcMzTnjO9gCln45p3WXOkrVBmTZD1m0zKNzGvUZ3u88IsgxwlPUownqCYIqpGgqIbuFvzTfz0 WVwCYjJRHMHMQkl1wrxk1KYe55E4cX3dQ4w4/Nu+0BelSkXGxmzphNYGry7FZlux9dEsy5ye97WVk kSSZF+YJ/FB3rdHLVYON9R/boQSxEAcN3yN1NiZK0K/SyJQ9jE1cNldQ6UUs8BwwemOlPKwEYjRmD hVlWEn2WC1ouA1Q7S0nvWw==; Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2025 11:46:39 +0300 Message-Id: <86pld3k1hs.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Stefan Monnier In-Reply-To: (message from Stefan Monnier on Sun, 10 Aug 2025 03:46:54 -0400) Subject: Re: bug#79206: 29.4; cl-defgeneric docstring is incorrect References: <861ppjlpyp.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 79206-done Cc: 79206-done@debbugs.gnu.org, eefacm@gmail.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Stefan Monnier > Cc: Sean McAfee , 79206@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2025 03:46:54 -0400 > > > Stefan, I guess that the arguments are ignored if there's no body, is > > that right? > > That's right. Thanks, I've now fixed the doc string on the emacs-30 release branch to say that, and I'm therefore closing this bug. 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I just sent this reply to Eli only. Resending... On Sun, Aug 10, 2025 at 1:46=E2=80=AFAM Eli Zaretskii wrote: > Thanks, I've now fixed the doc string on the emacs-30 release branch > to say that, and I'm therefore closing this bug. > Actually, I notice now that even without a DEFAULT-BODY, ARGS is type-checked: ELISP> (cl-defgeneric foo 0) *** Eval error *** Wrong type argument: sequencep, 0 ELISP> (cl-defgeneric foo "") *** Eval error *** Unrecognized usage format ELISP> (cl-defgeneric foo []) *** Eval error *** Wrong type argument: listp, [] But: ELISP> (cl-defgeneric foo nil) nil ELISP> (cl-defgeneric bar 'bar) nil (I dunno why that last one passes.) So ARGS is not really ignored, even if its value is not used. --000000000000f14868063c0863db Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Oops!=C2=A0 I just sent this reply to Eli only.=C2=A0= Resending...

On Sun, Aug 10, 2025 at 1:46= =E2=80=AFAM Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org<= /a>> wrote:
T= hanks, I've now fixed the doc string on the emacs-30 release branch
to say that, and I'm therefore closing this bug.
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ELISP> (cl-defgeneric bar = 9;bar)
nil

(I dunno why that last one passe= s.)

Oh, I gue= ss it's because 'bar becomes (quote bar).=C2=A0 Never mind!

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