From unknown Sat Aug 16 23:46:27 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#79189: Open-file-dialog not properly installed (MacOS) Resent-From: Konrad Podczeck Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2025 11:56:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 79189 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 79189@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.175456771312366 (code B ref -1); Thu, 07 Aug 2025 11:56:02 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Aug 2025 11:55:13 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33894 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ujzDE-0003DC-Js for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2025 07:55:12 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:470:142::17]:41766) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ujzDB-0003C1-1v for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2025 07:55:10 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ujzD3-0001XD-Nu for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2025 07:55:01 -0400 Received: from grace.univie.ac.at ([2001:62a:4:25::25:115]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ujzD0-0002eL-Jy for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2025 07:55:00 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=univie.ac.at; s=rev4; h=To:Date:Message-Id:Subject:Mime-Version: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:From:Sender:Reply-To:Cc:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References; bh=+VJ4LHA3rVCb3Qwn/XkRJyQVxaLLfmTklgTOzwo6J8E=; b=FkNJNwHxl2ZUoLciHQGAvsL72u k2/+rg0JWkQNlXFo4IKJdvjKgRQRIo20t8BQond+moPWYH63VXTQls8LecSSc0eTA3232nejqzyvO m5/caqkjQLYkv76866CJDDV+tRTtfjrkW7FojWUKVoSq6cP76fvGV4friwtlU3PVWNWD/QLoQQEWS ucaUZh6Hc8piybGIA3PzhA8jXO5ueHiO545YAVclZPS7/aNcvhFikLsxrO+L9UMLYDX7ux7oCoTk3 UN0NFJBuEfPxXgLRrGSWhikX1HGN7w2bYFUpgHC/VId5470jffWTLiixqCe5Q2oFZx8ONpgNfojlt UR+MyyeQ==; Received: from jarvis.univie.ac.at ([131.130.3.112] helo=jarvis.univie.ac.at) by grace.univie.ac.at with esmtps (TLS1.3:TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.98.2) (envelope-from ) id 1ujzCq-00000008DwC-1M7Q for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2025 13:54:48 +0200 Received: from [2a04:9546:2e18:e001:48:b39:819f:f8e4] (helo=smtpclient.apple) by jarvis.univie.ac.at with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.98.2) (envelope-from ) id 1ujzCp-00000003Jta-43yb for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2025 13:54:48 +0200 From: Konrad Podczeck Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3826.700.81\)) Message-Id: <8578FF53-5A43-4287-8D51-00C358D09DFB@univie.ac.at> Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2025 13:54:37 +0200 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3826.700.81) X-Univie-Virus-Scan: scanned by ClamAV on jarvis.univie.ac.at Received-SPF: none client-ip=2001:62a:4:25::25:115; envelope-from=konrad.podczeck@univie.ac.at; helo=grace.univie.ac.at X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Issuing menu>file>open file ..., the open file dialog pops up but, = scrolling down and then for a fraction of a second, I see the file names = in the Systems font for intangible text before I can see it in the = Systems default. 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Konrad From unknown Sat Aug 16 23:46:27 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#79189: Open-file-dialog not properly installed (MacOS) Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2025 12:57:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 79189 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Konrad Podczeck Cc: 79189@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 79189-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B79189.175457140823973 (code B ref 79189); Thu, 07 Aug 2025 12:57:02 +0000 Received: (at 79189) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Aug 2025 12:56:48 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34015 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1uk0Aq-0006Ea-Em for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2025 08:56:48 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:48854) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1uk0Ao-0006EO-MU for 79189@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2025 08:56:47 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1uk0Ah-0005Pf-Hr; Thu, 07 Aug 2025 08:56:39 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=uMonU9AEdRherImB2J+y0mTOAmyQApyL9s4P0g0pfAE=; b=bOz5B7Cb5C9v FT/44t0aOVB9nunxleBiXeMYbxfRKs/kLV/MKwdwCkUKJisspo1k/eVOd5ZMjp/hk/iJkdrAM/W9Q 0WvD9wG+YVWghxCgPHkmx7Z98aPDf3KGvMxcCp/5cvxTILFaGIvdLH6pQlT9foWJPyJuGXej8xyea 0TZpA46ZW7JeBL34XIyQxwf03mz/IKuYz0Ztxf5Eh5AnSXEEzcvKV8hejgKdus1We2LDLfDqovCF3 socHF1NMys5laTvS9WW9VozjzpAClmOkJtlD89m1ZCTXtPoGkj1m6xytRC54lbpXfQmgWVUV26gZ4 JfIaGmwiYwlPxKbHB07C7Q==; Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2025 15:56:37 +0300 Message-Id: <86ldnvqohm.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: <8578FF53-5A43-4287-8D51-00C358D09DFB@univie.ac.at> (message from Konrad Podczeck on Thu, 7 Aug 2025 13:54:37 +0200) References: <8578FF53-5A43-4287-8D51-00C358D09DFB@univie.ac.at> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Konrad Podczeck > Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2025 13:54:37 +0200 > > Issuing menu>file>open file ..., the open file dialog pops up but, scrolling down and then for a fraction of a second, I see the file names in the Systems font for intangible text before I can see it in the Systems default. To see this, you need a directory containing many files. In case it matters, I use the NS-port of the Emacs-master branch. Thanks. What you describe seems NS-specific, so I hope users of macOS could try reproducing this and report back. From unknown Sat Aug 16 23:46:27 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#79189: Open-file-dialog not properly installed (MacOS) Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2025 10:43:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 79189 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: konrad.podczeck@univie.ac.at, Alan Third , Gerd =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=B6llmann?= Cc: 79189@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 79189-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B79189.175534092628889 (code B ref 79189); Sat, 16 Aug 2025 10:43:01 +0000 Received: (at 79189) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Aug 2025 10:42:06 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41210 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1unEMQ-0007Vq-Be for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 16 Aug 2025 06:42:06 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:43162) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1unEMN-0007VK-K9 for 79189@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 16 Aug 2025 06:42:04 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1unEME-0005NT-NB; Sat, 16 Aug 2025 06:41:54 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=IzOBqEWKsK9ats/EEpClhHkb6+W8bFK/3/F891JcrEg=; b=NwWz6wsJyITMN8JNg7vc S7aJNH+NdHzoVQWDfeJ4efsQPb8lhbrfj/B/AS/DzSiX30a2pZMbTFT02ytkmqDaGCHMNxVZ21Hjl 8H6hPMEZ29j3cqQOPOY3t+XkIgSe8PNbgRpSJUTW2XGWrZm1oIp2z2+m/55rNd/iEc+AnFEiHDo/L ysSNaM2FIybaD767FAK6ApTAP2RK/YkeH5JF8oWj2YMKKUlgFeyl6xeYfMbSZ9vorDASzCs7lQ6qn Q9Sl7y25MvsL0moNNbrBDWHMUGRMxUpHxcgWGCHgOODIh/dhYC6jtBt9bToHYuD9iHW3uWoo70Pkg tQZG50x2pLRvhw==; Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2025 13:41:52 +0300 Message-Id: <86wm73k0pb.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: <86ldnvqohm.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Thu, 07 Aug 2025 15:56:37 +0300) References: <8578FF53-5A43-4287-8D51-00C358D09DFB@univie.ac.at> <86ldnvqohm.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Cc: 79189@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2025 15:56:37 +0300 > From: Eli Zaretskii > > > From: Konrad Podczeck > > Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2025 13:54:37 +0200 > > > > Issuing menu>file>open file ..., the open file dialog pops up but, scrolling down and then for a fraction of a second, I see the file names in the Systems font for intangible text before I can see it in the Systems default. To see this, you need a directory containing many files. In case it matters, I use the NS-port of the Emacs-master branch. > > Thanks. What you describe seems NS-specific, so I hope users of macOS > could try reproducing this and report back. Alan and Gerd, do you see this problem on macOS? 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[2003:e0:b72a:fd00:c93:af86:78da:11fb]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id ffacd0b85a97d-3bb93862fe7sm5217521f8f.64.2025.08.16.04.03.50 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Sat, 16 Aug 2025 04:03:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Gerd =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=B6llmann?= In-Reply-To: <86wm73k0pb.fsf@gnu.org> References: <8578FF53-5A43-4287-8D51-00C358D09DFB@univie.ac.at> <86ldnvqohm.fsf@gnu.org> <86wm73k0pb.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2025 13:03:49 +0200 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Eli Zaretskii writes: >> Cc: 79189@debbugs.gnu.org >> Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2025 15:56:37 +0300 >> From: Eli Zaretskii >> >> > From: Konrad Podczeck >> > Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2025 13:54:37 +0200 >> > >> > Issuing menu>file>open file ..., the open file dialog pops up but, >> > scrolling down and then for a fraction of a second, I see the file >> > names in the Systems font for intangible text before I can see it >> > in the Systems default. To see this, you need a directory >> > containing many files. In case it matters, I use the NS-port of >> > the Emacs-master branch. >> >> Thanks. What you describe seems NS-specific, so I hope users of macOS >> could try reproducing this and report back. > > Alan and Gerd, do you see this problem on macOS? I don't use NS anymore, sorry. From unknown Sat Aug 16 23:46:27 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#79189: Open-file-dialog not properly installed (MacOS) Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2025 11:53:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 79189 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Gerd =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=B6llmann?= Cc: alan@idiocy.org, 79189@debbugs.gnu.org, konrad.podczeck@univie.ac.at Received: via spool by 79189-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B79189.175534516021465 (code B ref 79189); Sat, 16 Aug 2025 11:53:02 +0000 Received: (at 79189) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Aug 2025 11:52:40 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41421 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1unFSi-0005a9-1y for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 16 Aug 2025 07:52:40 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:36266) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1unFSd-0005Zp-MD for 79189@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 16 Aug 2025 07:52:36 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1unFST-0000xj-9X; Sat, 16 Aug 2025 07:52:25 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=pivsVwxYMF5eZtPbooB5Rqhv9j97NmqY6AUCIRtQFmE=; b=J75h8gSifb5SmAs6gZvs wsSD0WKGbkvz7ASrKby5kFhl0SCQ5DA8Y3pdnLmXVwHeM9r1x3TUUHxz64qxcCzwjwz+o1bsFrM7d aCMGa6xTaANfV75Hh5/9MfUwwD5Bxlih39r+1jGKy8+r9hmN7c7KIuHuzFENy7ZC9K+8CpPJy4rWN UAbn8Yba8Lx/NJa6TnbybRjvO3conjhcY1ZirJvrQgM8Pv+lSlMYojchDNg4PL67cajvTEOb+0XGF WuIxWVN1paBiMDEQXLdIhSGoeHmb64cI96p4tKukbGDzkze78WzCrSo+uUx6UP1OKQNZLU52KGO+t Q1A6UqdxWritVw==; Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2025 14:52:19 +0300 Message-Id: <86ldnjjxfw.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: (message from Gerd =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=B6llmann?= on Sat, 16 Aug 2025 13:03:49 +0200) References: <8578FF53-5A43-4287-8D51-00C358D09DFB@univie.ac.at> <86ldnvqohm.fsf@gnu.org> <86wm73k0pb.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Gerd Möllmann > Cc: konrad.podczeck@univie.ac.at, Alan Third , > 79189@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2025 13:03:49 +0200 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > >> Cc: 79189@debbugs.gnu.org > >> Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2025 15:56:37 +0300 > >> From: Eli Zaretskii > >> > >> > From: Konrad Podczeck > >> > Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2025 13:54:37 +0200 > >> > > >> > Issuing menu>file>open file ..., the open file dialog pops up but, > >> > scrolling down and then for a fraction of a second, I see the file > >> > names in the Systems font for intangible text before I can see it > >> > in the Systems default. To see this, you need a directory > >> > containing many files. In case it matters, I use the NS-port of > >> > the Emacs-master branch. > >> > >> Thanks. What you describe seems NS-specific, so I hope users of macOS > >> could try reproducing this and report back. > > > > Alan and Gerd, do you see this problem on macOS? > > I don't use NS anymore, sorry. And in other macOS builds, which you do use, this problem doesn't happen? 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[2003:e0:b72a:fd00:c93:af86:78da:11fb]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 5b1f17b1804b1-45a1c6bd172sm100552105e9.6.2025.08.16.05.23.43 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Sat, 16 Aug 2025 05:23:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Gerd =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=B6llmann?= In-Reply-To: <86ldnjjxfw.fsf@gnu.org> References: <8578FF53-5A43-4287-8D51-00C358D09DFB@univie.ac.at> <86ldnvqohm.fsf@gnu.org> <86wm73k0pb.fsf@gnu.org> <86ldnjjxfw.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2025 14:23:42 +0200 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Eli Zaretskii writes: > And in other macOS builds, which you do use, this problem doesn't > happen? FWIW, I don't see anything noteworthy with mac. But I must add that I normally don't use the menu-bar at all, and in addition I have set-file-dialog nil in my init.el.