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[5.70.205.214]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 5b1f17b1804b1-459e161823esm7490925e9.26.2025.08.04.16.16.39 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Mon, 04 Aug 2025 16:16:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ecls.ithaky.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 1ED593C0240; Mon, 4 Aug 2025 23:55:03 +0100 (BST) From: Reuben Thomas Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2025 23:55:02 +0100 Message-ID: <87v7n24rzt.fsf@sc3d.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::330; envelope-from=rrt@sc3d.org; helo=mail-wm1-x330.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) I=E2=80=99m a bit unsure how to demonstrate this bug in vanilla Emacs. See https://github.com/minad/vertico/discussions/623 for the original context in which I found this problem, using the vertico package. The author assures me this is an Emacs bug, and gives his reasoning there. Also, according to him it is possible that it has already been fixed on master. The problem is that when `tramp-syntax` is set to `simplified`, then `find-file` can produce an empty completion for `completing-read`. (The vertico author=E2=80=99s suggestion is that empty completions are invalid.) Emacs then tries to add a text property to a one-character span of this empty completion candidate, which of course does not work. I give steps to reproduce in the bug report above, but they require the use of vertico, which is obviously not ideal, apologies. It seems that in vanilla Emacs the bug does not have obvious consequences. I can confirm at least that the bug also manifests when the user has no `.ssh/config` file. In GNU Emacs 30.1 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.24.41, cairo version 1.18.0) of 2025-02-25, modified by Debian built on lcy02-amd64-066 Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.12101011 System Description: Ubuntu 24.04.2 LTS Configured using: 'configure --build x86_64-linux-gnu --prefix=3D/usr --sharedstatedir=3D/var/lib --libexecdir=3D/usr/libexec --localstatedir=3D/var/lib --infodir=3D/usr/share/info --mandir=3D/usr/share/man --with-libsystemd --with-pop=3Dyes --enable-locallisppath=3D/etc/emacs:/usr/local/share/emacs/30.1/site-lisp:= /usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/30.1/site-lisp:/usr/share= /emacs/site-lisp --with-sound=3Dalsa --without-gconf --with-mailutils --build x86_64-linux-gnu --prefix=3D/usr --sharedstatedir=3D/var/lib --libexecdir=3D/usr/libexec --localstatedir=3D/var/lib --infodir=3D/usr/share/info --mandir=3D/usr/share/man --with-libsystemd --with-pop=3Dyes 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See > https://github.com/minad/vertico/discussions/623 for the original > context in which I found this problem, using the vertico package. The > author assures me this is an Emacs bug, and gives his reasoning there. Thanks for the bug report. Yes, I could reproduce the problem according to your recipe with Emacs 30. I'm using a recent build from the emacs-30 branch: --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- GNU Emacs 31.0.50 (build 13, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.24.49, cairo version 1.18.2) of 2025-07-22 --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- > Also, according to him it is possible that it has already been fixed on > master. I've modified your recipe slightly in my next test. In package-isolate, I've said vertico-2.4,tramp-2.8.0.1 : --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- ;; - compat-30.1.0.0 (dependency) ;; - seq-2.24 (dependency) ;; - tramp-2.8.0.1 ;; - vertico-2.4 --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- Tramp 2.8 is the version in Emacs' master branch. The same problem appeared. Now a third test, like the first one but using Emacs 31 from the master branch. No error happens. Conclusion: the problem is fixed im Emacs' master branch. Unfortunately, this fix is not in Tramp itself, so it doesn't suffices to use a recent Tramp version from ELPA. So I propose to close your bug. This is unfortune for people using Emacs 30, but I don't know what and how to backport. Best regards, Michael. 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Unfortunately, > this fix is not in Tramp itself, so it doesn't suffices to use a recent > Tramp version from ELPA. NB: This problem is not related to vertico. A simple recipe: --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- emacs -Q -l tramp --eval "(tramp-change-syntax 'simplified)" --eval '(setq debug-on-error t)' C-x C-f / TAB TAB --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- This shows the problem with Emacs 30. With Emacs 31, no problem. > So I propose to close your bug. This is unfortune for people using Emacs > 30, but I don't know what and how to backport. Best regards, Michael. 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Unfortunately, > > this fix is not in Tramp itself, so it doesn't suffices to use a recent > > Tramp version from ELPA. > Many thanks for the rapid confirmation diagnosis. I have a question: presumably the latest version of TRAMP still generates empty completion-read candidates. I think the question still needs answering: is this valid? If not, then whatever has changed in Emacs 31 is just masking a bug that still exists in TRAMP. -- https://rrt.sc3d.org --000000000000a57eeb063b9c16c7 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Tue, 5 Aug 2025 at 09:25, Michael Albinus = <michael.albinus@gmx.de>= ; wrote:
Michael= Albinus <mi= chael.albinus@gmx.de> writes:

> Conclusion: the problem is fixed im Emacs' master branch. Unfortun= ately,
> this fix is not in Tramp itself, so it doesn't suffices to use a r= ecent
> Tramp version from ELPA.

Many thanks for the rapid confirmation diagnosis.

I have a question: presuma= bly the latest version of TRAMP still generates empty completion-read candi= dates. I think the question still needs answering: is this valid? If not, t= hen whatever has changed in Emacs 31 is just masking a bug that still exist= s in TRAMP.

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I think the question still > needs answering: is this valid? If not, then whatever has changed in > Emacs 31 is just masking a bug that still exists in TRAMP. Good point. Could you pls check the appended patch? Since this touches a macro, you must recompile first tramp.el, and afterwards tramp-sh.el. Best regards, Michael. --=-=-= Content-Type: text/x-patch Content-Disposition: attachment Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable diff --git a/lisp/net/tramp.el b/lisp/net/tramp.el index e0e080021c7..c72ebf890d5 100644 =2D-- a/lisp/net/tramp.el +++ b/lisp/net/tramp.el @@ -2863,7 +2863,7 @@ tramp-skeleton-file-name-all-completions BODY is the backend specific code." (declare (indent 2) (debug t)) `(ignore-error file-missing - (delete-dups (delq nil + (delete-dups (delq nil (delete "" (let* ((case-fold-search read-file-name-completion-ignore-case) (result (progn ,@body))) ;; Some storage systems do not return "." and "..". @@ -2880,7 +2880,7 @@ tramp-skeleton-file-name-all-completions (dolist (elt completion-regexp-list x) (unless (string-match-p elt x) (throw 'match nil)))))) result) - result)))))) + result))))))) =20 (defvar tramp--last-hop-directory nil "Tracks the directory from which to run login programs.") --=-=-=-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Aug 05 08:21:43 2025 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Aug 2025 12:21:43 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53991 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ujGfm-0002Yz-Uw for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 05 Aug 2025 08:21:43 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.18]:52171) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps 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2025 22:39:51 +0100 X-Gm-Features: Ac12FXxF7QCHj_tRELKGW5gXMrT748u8mmBubDbn9e8-z8wkwxw2V5r18nSTNk4 Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000002b318c063ba511e1" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) --0000000000002b318c063ba511e1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Tue, 5 Aug 2025 at 13:21, Michael Albinus wrote: > > Good point. Could you pls check the appended patch? Since this touches a > macro, you must recompile first tramp.el, and afterwards tramp-sh.el. > Thanks very much for the patch! I installed this patch by first installing tramp 2.8.0.1 in Emacs 30.1 from ELPA, then applying the patch, then starting Emacs and recompiling tramp.sh and tramp-sh.el, then restarting Emacs. This did not quite have the expected effect. The error from vertico was gone, but when I type a single slash at the find-file prompt, I now get prompted to log in to an SSH host. This sounds as though two lists have gotten out of sync: one with the empty entry, and one without. Do let me know if I can do further investigation. -- https://rrt.sc3d.org --0000000000002b318c063ba511e1 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Tue, 5 Aug 2025 at 13:21, Michael Albinus = <michael.albinus@gmx.de>= ; wrote:

Good point. Could you pls check the appended patch? Since this touches a macro, you must recompile first tramp.el, and afterwards tramp-sh.el.

Thanks very much for the = patch!

I installed thi= s patch by first installing tramp 2.8.0.1 in Emacs 30.1 from ELPA, then app= lying the patch, then starting Emacs and recompiling tramp.sh and tramp-sh.= el, then restarting Emacs.

This did not quite have the expected effect.
<= br>
The error from vertico was gone, but when I typ= e a single slash at the find-file prompt, I now get prompted to log in to a= n SSH host. This sounds as though two lists have gotten out of sync: one wi= th the empty entry, and one without. Do let me know if I can do further inv= estigation.

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charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Reuben Thomas writes: Hi Reuben, > I installed this patch by first installing tramp 2.8.0.1 in Emacs 30.1 > from ELPA, then applying the patch, then starting Emacs and > recompiling tramp.sh and tramp-sh.el, then restarting Emacs. > > This did not quite have the expected effect. > > The error from vertico was gone, but when I type a single slash at the > find-file prompt, I now get prompted to log in to an SSH host. This > sounds as though two lists have gotten out of sync: one with the empty > entry, and one without. Do let me know if I can do further > investigation. Same here with vertico. This now seems a vertico error. The backtrace is as follows: --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- backtrace() tramp-error((tramp-file-name #("scp" 0 3 (tramp-default t)) nil nil "infe= mpbln01.int.infinit-services.com" nil "" nil) file-error #("Tramp failed to= connect. If this happens repeatedly, try\n =E2=80=98M-x tramp-cleanup-= this-connection=E2=80=99" 63 96 (font-lock-face help-key-binding face help-= key-binding))) apply(tramp-error (tramp-file-name #("scp" 0 3 (tramp-default t)) nil nil= "infempbln01.int.infinit-services.com" nil "" nil) file-error #("Tramp fai= led to connect. If this happens repeatedly, try\n =E2=80=98M-x tramp-cl= eanup-this-connection=E2=80=99" 63 96 (font-lock-face help-key-binding face= help-key-binding)) nil) tramp-process-actions(# (tramp-file-name #("scp" 0 3 (tramp-default t)) nil nil "infempbln= 01.int.infinit-services.com" nil "" nil) 1 ((tramp-login-prompt-regexp tram= p-action-login) (tramp-password-prompt-regexp tramp-action-password) (tramp= -otp-password-prompt-regexp tramp-action-otp-password) (tramp-fingerprint-p= rompt-regexp tramp-action-fingerprint) (tramp-wrong-passwd-regexp tramp-act= ion-permission-denied) (shell-prompt-pattern tramp-action-succeed) (tramp-s= hell-prompt-pattern tramp-action-succeed) (tramp-yesno-prompt-regexp tramp-= action-yesno) (tramp-yn-prompt-regexp tramp-action-yn) (tramp-terminal-prom= pt-regexp tramp-action-terminal) (tramp-antispoof-regexp tramp-action-confi= rm-message) (tramp-security-key-confirm-regexp tramp-action-show-and-confir= m-message) (tramp-security-key-pin-regexp tramp-action-otp-password) (tramp= -process-alive-regexp tramp-action-process-alive)) 60) tramp-maybe-open-connection((tramp-file-name #("scp" 0 3 (tramp-default t= )) nil nil "infempbln01.int.infinit-services.com" nil "" nil)) tramp-send-command((tramp-file-name #("scp" 0 3 (tramp-default t)) nil ni= l "infempbln01.int.infinit-services.com" nil "" nil) "echo ~ 2>/dev/null; e= cho tramp_exit_status $?") tramp-send-command-and-check((tramp-file-name #("scp" 0 3 (tramp-default = t)) nil nil "infempbln01.int.infinit-services.com" nil "" nil) "echo ~") tramp-sh-handle-get-home-directory((tramp-file-name #("scp" 0 3 (tramp-de= fault t)) nil nil "infempbln01.int.infinit-services.com" nil "" nil) "") tramp-sh-file-name-handler(tramp-get-home-directory (tramp-file-name #("s= cp" 0 3 (tramp-default t)) nil nil "infempbln01.int.infinit-services.com" n= il "" nil) "") apply(tramp-sh-file-name-handler tramp-get-home-directory ((tramp-file-na= me #("scp" 0 3 (tramp-default t)) nil nil "infempbln01.int.infinit-services= .com" nil "" nil) "")) tramp-file-name-handler(tramp-get-home-directory (tramp-file-name #("scp"= 0 3 (tramp-default t)) nil nil "infempbln01.int.infinit-services.com" nil = "" nil) "") tramp-get-home-directory((tramp-file-name #("scp" 0 3 (tramp-default t)) = nil nil "infempbln01.int.infinit-services.com" nil "" nil) "") tramp-sh-handle-expand-file-name("/infempbln01.int.infinit-services.com:"= nil) tramp-sh-file-name-handler(expand-file-name "/infempbln01.int.infinit-ser= vices.com:" nil) apply(tramp-sh-file-name-handler expand-file-name ("/infempbln01.int.infi= nit-services.com:" nil)) tramp-file-name-handler(expand-file-name "/infempbln01.int.infinit-servic= es.com:" nil) file-name-all-completions("" "/infempbln01.int.infinit-services.com:") completion-file-name-table("/infempbln01.int.infinit-services.com:" file-= exists-p t) completion-pcm--all-completions("/infempbln01.int.infinit-services.com:" = nil completion-file-name-table file-exists-p) completion-pcm--find-all-completions("/i-:" completion-file-name-table fi= le-exists-p 4) completion-pcm-all-completions("/i-:" completion-file-name-table file-exi= sts-p 4) #f(compiled-function (style) #)(partial-comp= letion) #f(compiled-function (elt) #)(partial-comple= tion) mapc(#f(compiled-function (elt) #) (basic pa= rtial-completion emacs22)) seq-do(#f(compiled-function (elt) #) (basic = partial-completion emacs22)) seq-some(#f(compiled-function (style) #) (ba= sic partial-completion emacs22)) completion--nth-completion(2 "~/src/emacs-30//i-:" read-file-name-interna= l file-exists-p 19 (metadata (category . file) (completion--unquote-requote= . t))) completion-all-completions("~/src/emacs-30//i-:" read-file-name-internal = file-exists-p 19 (metadata (category . file) (completion--unquote-requote .= t))) vertico--filter-completions("~/src/emacs-30//i-:" read-file-name-internal= file-exists-p 19 (metadata (category . file) (completion--unquote-requote = . t))) vertico--recompute(19 "~/src/emacs-30//i-:") vertico--update(interruptible) #() #f(compiled-function () #)() handler-bind-1(#f(compiled-function () #) (error= ) vertico--debug) vertico--protect(#) vertico--exhibit() #("Find file: " read-file-name-internal fil= e-exists-p confirm-after-completion "~/src/emacs-30/" file-name-history "~/= src/emacs-30/" nil) apply((# "Find file: " read-file-name-inter= nal file-exists-p confirm-after-completion "~/src/emacs-30/" file-name-hist= ory "~/src/emacs-30/" nil)) vertico--advice(# "Find file: " read-file-n= ame-internal file-exists-p confirm-after-completion "~/src/emacs-30/" file-= name-history "~/src/emacs-30/" nil) apply(vertico--advice # ("Find file: " read= -file-name-internal file-exists-p confirm-after-completion "~/src/emacs-30/= " file-name-history "~/src/emacs-30/" nil)) completing-read-default("Find file: " read-file-name-internal file-exists= -p confirm-after-completion "~/src/emacs-30/" file-name-history "~/src/emac= s-30/" nil) read-file-name-default("Find file: " nil "~/src/emacs-30/" confirm-after-= completion nil nil) read-file-name("Find file: " nil "~/src/emacs-30/" confirm-after-completi= on) find-file-read-args("Find file: " confirm-after-completion) byte-code("\300\301\302 \"\207" [find-file-read-args "Find file: " confir= m-nonexistent-file-or-buffer] 3) command-execute(find-file) --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- As we see, there is --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- completion-pcm--all-completions("/infempbln01.int.infinit-services.com:" = nil completion-file-name-table file-exists-p) completion-pcm--find-all-completions("/i-:" completion-file-name-table fi= le-exists-p 4) completion-pcm-all-completions("/i-:" completion-file-name-table file-exi= sts-p 4) ... vertico--filter-completions("~/src/emacs-30//i-:" read-file-name-internal= file-exists-p 19 (metadata (category . file) (completion--unquote-requote = . t))) --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- This is OK, "infempbln01.int.infinit-services.com" is a valid completion for "/i-:". However, vertico must not trigger to open that host. This can be achieved by let-binding minibuffer-completing-file-name, for example by the following patch in vertico.el: --=-=-= Content-Type: text/x-patch Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable *** /home/albinus/.emacs.d/elpa/vertico-2.4/vertico.el.~1~ 2025-08-05 09:4= 4:34.923858379 +0200 =2D-- /home/albinus/.emacs.d/elpa/vertico-2.4/vertico.el 2025-08-06 09:21:= 14.376181020 +0200 *************** *** 211,217 **** =20 (defun vertico--filter-completions (&rest args) "Compute all completions for ARGS with lazy highlighting." ! (dlet ((completion-lazy-hilit t) (completion-lazy-hilit-fn nil)) (static-if (>=3D emacs-major-version 30) (cons (apply #'completion-all-completions args) completion-lazy-= hilit-fn) (cl-letf* ((orig-pcm (symbol-function #'completion-pcm--hilit-comm= onality)) =2D-- 211,217 ---- =20 (defun vertico--filter-completions (&rest args) "Compute all completions for ARGS with lazy highlighting." ! 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I have notified the vertico > maintainer. > The vertico maintainer does not believe the patch for vertico is correct: https://github.com/minad/vertico/discussions/623#discussioncomment-14023927 I just wanted to ensure that this doesn't affect the diagnosis of and the patch to TRAMP. -- https://rrt.sc3d.org --000000000000b4d7c4063bb625af Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Wed, 6 Aug 2025 at 18:21, Reuben Thomas &l= t;rrt@sc3d.org> wrote:

Many thanks for the analysis and patch. I have notifie= d the vertico maintainer.

The vertico maintainer does not believe the patch for = vertico is correct: https://github.com/minad/vertico/discussio= ns/623#discussioncomment-14023927

I just wanted to ensure that this doesn't affect the di= agnosis of and the patch to TRAMP.

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https://github.com/minad/vertico/discussions/623#discussioncomment-14023927 > > I just wanted to ensure that this doesn't affect the diagnosis of and > the patch to TRAMP. I've pushed the Tramp patch to the repositories. Will be available with Emacs 31. And it will be also be part of the next GNU ELPA release, Tramp 2.8.0.2. I've tried your scenario, again, with the recompiled Emacs 31. I cannot reproduce the error any longer. Could you, pls, check? Best regards, Michael. 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Will be available with > Emacs 31. And it will be also be part of the next GNU ELPA release, > Tramp 2.8.0.2. > > I've tried your scenario, again, with the recompiled Emacs 31. I cannot > reproduce the error any longer. Could you, pls, check? > I think there may be some confusion here. I am using Emacs 30, and have never tested Emacs 31. I applied your patch to Tramp 2.8.0.1, and found the different error, which you diagnosed as a vertico bug, in Emacs 30. Since you say that with your TRAMP patch the problem ought not to arise in Emacs 30, I was trying to understand whether the remaining problem is indeed in vertico, or not (there may be some disagreement between you and the vertico maintainer on this). As to Emacs 31, it appears that other changes there may have concealed one or more bugs, but since the fixes are in TRAMP and/or vertico, it doesn't seem that there are any further implications for Emacs 31. -- https://rrt.sc3d.org --000000000000267d62063bc5102e Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Thu, 7 Aug 2025 at 08:36, Michael Albinus = <michael.albinus@gmx.de>= ; wrote:

I've pushed the Tramp patch to the repositories. Will be available with=
Emacs 31. And it will be also be part of the next GNU ELPA release,
Tramp 2.8.0.2.

I've tried your scenario, again, with the recompiled Emacs 31. I cannot=
reproduce the error any longer. Could you, pls, check?

I think there may be some confusion here= . I am using Emacs 30, and have never tested Emacs 31. I applied your patch= to Tramp 2.8.0.1, and found the different error, which you diagnosed as a = vertico bug, in Emacs 30.

Since you say that with your TRAMP patch the problem ought not to arise= in Emacs 30, I was trying to understand whether the remaining problem is i= ndeed in vertico, or not (there may be some disagreement between you and th= e vertico maintainer on this).

As to Emacs 31, it appears that other changes there may have conce= aled one or more bugs, but since the fixes are in TRAMP and/or vertico, it = doesn't seem that there are any further implications for Emacs 31.
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I am using Emacs 30, and > have never tested Emacs 31. I applied your patch to Tramp 2.8.0.1, and > found the different error, which you diagnosed as a vertico bug, in > Emacs 30. After I've sent my message, I've realized that I should test with Emacs 30. So I did. I've transformed you recipe into the shell command --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- # ~/src/emacs-30/src/emacs -Q -l ~/.emacs.d/elpa/compat-30.1.0.0/compat-autoloads.el -l ~/.emacs.d/elpa/seq-2.24/seq-autoloads.el -l ~/.emacs.d/elpa/vertico-2.4/vertico-autoloads.el -L /home/albinus/src/tramp/lisp -l tramp --eval "(tramp-change-syntax 'simplified)" -f vertico-mode --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- /home/albinus/src/tramp is the master branch of Tramp, including the patch. This is what will be Tramp 2.8.0.2. Typing 'C-x C-f /' works as expected. Best regards, Michael. 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So I did. I've transformed you recipe into the shell command > > --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- > # ~/src/emacs-30/src/emacs -Q -l > ~/.emacs.d/elpa/compat-30.1.0.0/compat-autoloads.el -l > ~/.emacs.d/elpa/seq-2.24/seq-autoloads.el -l > ~/.emacs.d/elpa/vertico-2.4/vertico-autoloads.el -L > /home/albinus/src/tramp/lisp -l tramp --eval "(tramp-change-syntax > 'simplified)" -f vertico-mode > --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- > > /home/albinus/src/tramp is the master branch of Tramp, including the > patch. This is what will be Tramp 2.8.0.2. > > Typing 'C-x C-f /' works as expected. > Great, I can confirm this works for me too, also with my standard setup. -- https://rrt.sc3d.org --000000000000d16999063bc75237 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Thu, 7 Aug 2025 at 13:48, Michael Albinus = <michael.albinus@gmx.de>= ; wrote:

After I've sent my message, I've realized that I should test with E= macs
30. So I did. I've transformed you recipe into the shell command

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
# ~/src/emacs-30/src/emacs -Q -l ~/.emacs.d/elpa/compat-30.1.0.0/compat-aut= oloads.el -l ~/.emacs.d/elpa/seq-2.24/seq-autoloads.el -l ~/.emacs.d/elpa/v= ertico-2.4/vertico-autoloads.el -L /home/albinus/src/tramp/lisp -l tramp --= eval "(tramp-change-syntax 'simplified)" -f vertico-mode
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

/home/albinus/src/tramp is the master branch of Tramp, including the
patch. This is what will be Tramp 2.8.0.2.

Typing 'C-x C-f /' works as expected.

Great, I can confirm this works for me too, also = with my standard setup.
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--000000000000d16999063bc75237-- From unknown Sat Aug 16 21:21:53 2025 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.505 (Entity 5.505) X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org From: help-debbugs@gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System) To: Reuben Thomas Subject: bug#79173: closed (Re: bug#79173: 30.1; TRAMP simplified syntax produces empty completing-read candidates) Message-ID: References: <87ikiz9oiw.fsf@gmx.de> <87v7n24rzt.fsf@sc3d.org> X-Gnu-PR-Message: they-closed 79173 X-Gnu-PR-Package: emacs X-Gnu-PR-Keywords: patch Reply-To: 79173@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2025 14:49:02 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1754578142-14046-1" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1754578142-14046-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Your bug report #79173: 30.1; TRAMP simplified syntax produces empty completing-read candid= ates which was filed against the emacs package, has been closed. 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Thanks for the feedback. So I'm closing this bug for "Emacs 30.3". I don't know whether this release will happen, but the current release under test, Emacs 30.2, won't get this patch. 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[5.70.205.214]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 5b1f17b1804b1-459e161823esm7490925e9.26.2025.08.04.16.16.39 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Mon, 04 Aug 2025 16:16:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ecls.ithaky.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 1ED593C0240; Mon, 4 Aug 2025 23:55:03 +0100 (BST) From: Reuben Thomas To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 30.1; TRAMP simplified syntax produces empty completing-read candidates X-Debbugs-Cc: Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2025 23:55:02 +0100 Message-ID: <87v7n24rzt.fsf@sc3d.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::330; envelope-from=rrt@sc3d.org; helo=mail-wm1-x330.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) I=E2=80=99m a bit unsure how to demonstrate this bug in vanilla Emacs. See https://github.com/minad/vertico/discussions/623 for the original context in which I found this problem, using the vertico package. The author assures me this is an Emacs bug, and gives his reasoning there. Also, according to him it is possible that it has already been fixed on master. The problem is that when `tramp-syntax` is set to `simplified`, then `find-file` can produce an empty completion for `completing-read`. (The vertico author=E2=80=99s suggestion is that empty completions are invalid.) Emacs then tries to add a text property to a one-character span of this empty completion candidate, which of course does not work. I give steps to reproduce in the bug report above, but they require the use of vertico, which is obviously not ideal, apologies. It seems that in vanilla Emacs the bug does not have obvious consequences. I can confirm at least that the bug also manifests when the user has no `.ssh/config` file. 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MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <87v7n24rzt.fsf@sc3d.org> <87y0rychiv.fsf@gmx.de> <87tt2mch08.fsf@gmx.de> <87ectqc62t.fsf@gmx.de> <87qzxoc3fd.fsf@gmx.de> <87y0rva8hq.fsf@gmx.de> <87ms8b9u2e.fsf@gmx.de> <87ikiz9oiw.fsf@gmx.de> In-Reply-To: <87ikiz9oiw.fsf@gmx.de> From: Reuben Thomas Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2025 17:33:09 +0100 X-Gm-Features: Ac12FXzSBzf3IJNZi3glnoogyIUAND0Ly6clCnnt6vTT_nr5cd7I8NDcueoJYJU Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000e85f86063bc90370" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) --000000000000e85f86063bc90370 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Thu, 7 Aug 2025 at 15:48, Michael Albinus wrote: > > > Great, I can confirm this works for me too, also with my standard > > setup. > After some more testing, I can still reproduce the problem where with the patched TRAMP 2.8.0.1, and using vertico 2.4, Emacs 30.1 tries to log into a remote host when I type C-x C-f / I have been unable to find the cause. On one machine, the problem occurs, on the other it doesn't. They are using the same build of Emacs on the same version of Ubuntu. I made my .emacs.d and .ssh directories diff-identical, just to be sure. The only thing I could discover was that when I change the contents of my ~/.ssh/known_hosts file, the remote machine that Emacs tries to log into changes. Making ~/.ssh/known_hosts empty did not help, it merely caused Emacs to select a different remote host than the one it chose with my original known_hosts file. In all cases, the remote host Emacs was trying to connect to was one mentioned in my ~/.ssh/config file, but this identical file is present on the machine where I cannot reproduce the problem. In any case, the contents of my SSH configuration should not really causing a problem! -- https://rrt.sc3d.org --000000000000e85f86063bc90370 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Thu, 7 Aug 2025 at 15:48, Michael Albinus = <michael.albinus@gmx.de>= ; wrote:

> Great, I can confirm this works for me too, also with my standard
> setup.

After so= me more testing, I can still reproduce the problem where with the patched T= RAMP 2.8.0.1, and using vertico 2.4, Emacs 30.1 tries to log into a remote = host when I type C-x C-f /

I have been unable to find the cause. On one machine, the problem occu= rs, on the other it doesn't. They are using the same build of Emacs on = the same version of Ubuntu. I made my .emacs.d and .ssh directories diff-id= entical, just to be sure.

The only thing I could discover was that when I change the contents of = my ~/.ssh/known_hosts file, the remote machine that Emacs tries to log into= changes.

Making ~/.ss= h/known_hosts empty did not help, it merely caused Emacs to select a differ= ent remote host than the one it chose with my original known_hosts file.

In all cases, the remote= host Emacs was trying to connect to was one mentioned in my ~/.ssh/config = file, but this identical file is present on the machine where I cannot repr= oduce the problem.

In = any case, the contents of my SSH configuration should not really causing a = problem!
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On Thu, 7 Aug 2025 at 17:33, Reuben Thomas &l= t;rrt@sc3d.org> wrote:

After some more testing, I can still reproduce the pro= blem where with the patched TRAMP 2.8.0.1, and using vertico 2.4, Emacs 30.= 1 tries to log into a remote host when I type C-x C-f /

Something of a brea= kthrough: I still have the problem when I disable vertico-mode. Stand down,= Daniel!

Still no = idea why it happens on one machine and not another with an identical config= uration. And it definitely doesn't happen when I run Emacs with a minim= al configuration.

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On Thu, 7 Aug 2025 at 17:47, Reuben Thomas &l= t;rrt@sc3d.org> wrote:
On Thu, 7 Aug 2025 a= t 17:33, Reuben Thomas <rrt@sc3d.org> wrote:

After some mo= re testing, I can still reproduce the problem where with the patched TRAMP = 2.8.0.1, and using vertico 2.4, Emacs 30.1 tries to log into a remote host = when I type C-x C-f /

Further, I can reproduce with Ema= cs 31 (git master at the time of writing). I'll bisect my config.

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I'll bisect my config. Pls try to provide a recipe starting with 'emacs -Q', like the one I have shown in my last message. This makes it much more convenient to hunt a bug. Best regards, Michael. 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This makes it much more convenient to > hunt a bug. > In the end, the problem turned out to be some advice for completion-file-table-name I picked up from Stack Exchange: https://emacs.stackexchange.com/a/45246/13004 to ignore dot files unless they are explicitly asked for in file-find. I don't propose to try to delve into it; most likely, the bug is in that code, and the reason that everything worked on one machine and not another has to do with different disk contents. Many thanks again for your help. -- https://rrt.sc3d.org --00000000000039cf49063bcab57e Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Thu, 7 Aug 2025 at 18:41, Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@g= mx.de> wrote:

Pls try to provide a recipe starting with 'emacs -Q', like the one = I
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In the e= nd, the problem turned out to be some advice for completion-file-table-name= I picked up from Stack Exchange: https://emacs.stackexchange.com/a/45246/13004

to ignore dot files unless the= y are explicitly asked for in file-find.

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I don't propose to try to delve into it; most likely= , the bug is in that code, and the reason that everything worked on one mac= hine and not another has to do with different disk contents.
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the end, the problem turned out to be some advice for > completion-file-table-name I picked up from Stack Exchange: > https://emacs.stackexchange.com/a/45246/13004 > > to ignore dot files unless they are explicitly asked for in file-find. Good to know there's no slumbering bug here in Emacs or Vertico. =20 > Many thanks again for your help. Best regards, Michael.