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31.0.50; doc-view-mode with auto-revert-mode emitting message when it shouldn't

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From: Jake <jforst.mailman <at> gmail.com>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 31.0.50; doc-view-mode with auto-revert-mode emitting message when it
 shouldn't
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2025 03:20:29 +0000

Hello

When a buffer visits a file using doc-view-mode and auto-revert-mode
is enabled in that buffer, Emacs emits the message
"Type C-c C-c to toggle between editing or viewing the document."
every time the file is changed.  The message is not appropriate when
the major mode of the current buffer is not doc-view-mode.

From emacs -Q:
1. Visit a PDF file
2. M-x auto-revert-mode
3. Visit a different buffer like the scratch buffer
4. Cause the PDF file to be changed
5. Observe the message

Thanks
Jake

In GNU Emacs 31.0.50 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version
3.24.43, cairo version 1.18.4)
Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.12101015
System Description: Guix System

Configured using:
 'configure
 CONFIG_SHELL=/gnu/store/nnx8iifrj6jfih4sivivq17cf65aa968-bash-minimal-5.2.37/bin/bash
 SHELL=/gnu/store/nnx8iifrj6jfih4sivivq17cf65aa968-bash-minimal-5.2.37/bin/bash
 --prefix=/gnu/store/khjxdrx5miba6da2lv0748gk4a3dh59w-emacs-next-31.0.50-1.9663c95
 --enable-fast-install --with-cairo --with-modules
 --with-native-compilation=aot 'CFLAGS=-g -O2
 -Wno-error=incompatible-pointer-types' --disable-build-details'

Configured features:
ACL CAIRO DBUS FREETYPE GIF GLIB GMP GNUTLS GPM GSETTINGS HARFBUZZ JPEG
LCMS2 LIBOTF LIBSELINUX LIBSYSTEMD LIBXML2 M17N_FLT MODULES NATIVE_COMP
NOTIFY INOTIFY PDUMPER PNG RSVG SECCOMP SOUND SQLITE3 THREADS TIFF
TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS TREE_SITTER WEBP X11 XDBE XIM XINERAMA XINPUT2 XPM
XRANDR GTK3 ZLIB

Important settings:
  value of $EMACSLOADPATH:
/home/jake/.guix-profile/share/emacs/site-lisp:/gnu/store/khjxdrx5miba6da2lv0748gk4a3dh59w-emacs-next-31.0.50-1.9663c95/share/emacs/31.0.50/lisp
  value of $LANG: en_AU.utf8
  locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix

Major mode: Lisp Interaction

Minor modes in effect:
  tooltip-mode: t
  global-eldoc-mode: t
  eldoc-mode: t
  show-paren-mode: t
  electric-indent-mode: t
  mouse-wheel-mode: t
  tool-bar-mode: t
  menu-bar-mode: t
  file-name-shadow-mode: t
  global-font-lock-mode: t
  font-lock-mode: t
  blink-cursor-mode: t
  minibuffer-regexp-mode: t
  line-number-mode: t
  indent-tabs-mode: t
  transient-mark-mode: t
  auto-composition-mode: t
  auto-encryption-mode: t
  auto-compression-mode: t

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Message #8 received at 79145 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Jake <jforst.mailman <at> gmail.com>, Tassilo Horn <tsdh <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 79145 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#79145: 31.0.50;
 doc-view-mode with auto-revert-mode emitting message when it shouldn't
Date: Sat, 02 Aug 2025 10:10:15 +0300

> From: Jake <jforst.mailman <at> gmail.com>
> Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2025 03:20:29 +0000
> 
> When a buffer visits a file using doc-view-mode and auto-revert-mode
> is enabled in that buffer, Emacs emits the message
> "Type C-c C-c to toggle between editing or viewing the document."
> every time the file is changed.  The message is not appropriate when
> the major mode of the current buffer is not doc-view-mode.
> 
> >From emacs -Q:
> 1. Visit a PDF file
> 2. M-x auto-revert-mode
> 3. Visit a different buffer like the scratch buffer
> 4. Cause the PDF file to be changed
> 5. Observe the message

Thanks.

Tassilo, any comments or suggestions?

Message #11 received at 79145 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Tassilo Horn <tsdh <at> gnu.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: Jake <jforst.mailman <at> gmail.com>, 79145 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#79145: 31.0.50; doc-view-mode with auto-revert-mode
 emitting message when it shouldn't
Date: Sat, 02 Aug 2025 09:30:13 +0200

Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes:

Hi Eli,

>> When a buffer visits a file using doc-view-mode and auto-revert-mode
>> is enabled in that buffer, Emacs emits the message "Type C-c C-c to
>> toggle between editing or viewing the document."  every time the file
>> is changed.  The message is not appropriate when the major mode of
>> the current buffer is not doc-view-mode.
>> 
>> >From emacs -Q:
>> 1. Visit a PDF file
>> 2. M-x auto-revert-mode
>> 3. Visit a different buffer like the scratch buffer
>> 4. Cause the PDF file to be changed
>> 5. Observe the message
>
> Tassilo, any comments or suggestions?

Jake's observation is certainly true but it's not really doc-view
specific.  A similar case is shown by this recipe:

1. open dired for /tmp and enable dired-omit-mode and auto-revert-mode
2. visit a different buffer
3. touch /tmp/foo in a terminal
4. observe the message "Omitting XX lines in /tmp"

So Jake's request can be broadened to something like "buffer-bound modes
should suppress messages when their buffer is not visible".  I'm not
sure if I'd want that.  And how to implement it.  I guess we certainly
don't want to visit each (message...) in Emacs to check if it's
appropriate to show in the "buffer not visible" case...

Bye,
Tassilo

Message #14 received at 79145 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Jake <jforst.mailman <at> gmail.com>
To: Tassilo Horn <tsdh <at> gnu.org>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>, 79145 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#79145: 31.0.50; doc-view-mode with auto-revert-mode emitting
 message when it shouldn't
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2025 17:30:02 +0930

[Message part 1 (text/plain, inline)]

Hi Tassilo

Thanks for looking into this!

> So Jake's request can be broadened to something like "buffer-bound modes
should suppress messages when their buffer is not visible".  I'm not
sure if I'd want that.

Is it necessary to broaden it?  I don’t think it’s a problem in general to
get updates about other buffers.  It is an issue in this case because of
the content of the message.

Cheers
Jake

On Sat, 2 Aug 2025 at 5:00 pm, Tassilo Horn <tsdh <at> gnu.org> wrote:

> Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes:
>
> Hi Eli,
>
> >> When a buffer visits a file using doc-view-mode and auto-revert-mode
> >> is enabled in that buffer, Emacs emits the message "Type C-c C-c to
> >> toggle between editing or viewing the document."  every time the file
> >> is changed.  The message is not appropriate when the major mode of
> >> the current buffer is not doc-view-mode.
> >>
> >> >From emacs -Q:
> >> 1. Visit a PDF file
> >> 2. M-x auto-revert-mode
> >> 3. Visit a different buffer like the scratch buffer
> >> 4. Cause the PDF file to be changed
> >> 5. Observe the message
> >
> > Tassilo, any comments or suggestions?
>
> Jake's observation is certainly true but it's not really doc-view
> specific.  A similar case is shown by this recipe:
>
> 1. open dired for /tmp and enable dired-omit-mode and auto-revert-mode
> 2. visit a different buffer
> 3. touch /tmp/foo in a terminal
> 4. observe the message "Omitting XX lines in /tmp"
>
> So Jake's request can be broadened to something like "buffer-bound modes
> should suppress messages when their buffer is not visible".  I'm not
> sure if I'd want that.  And how to implement it.  I guess we certainly
> don't want to visit each (message...) in Emacs to check if it's
> appropriate to show in the "buffer not visible" case...
>
> Bye,
> Tassilo
>

[Message part 2 (text/html, inline)]

Message #17 received at 79145 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Tassilo Horn <tsdh <at> gnu.org>, Michael Albinus <michael.albinus <at> gmx.de>
Cc: jforst.mailman <at> gmail.com, 79145 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#79145: 31.0.50; doc-view-mode with auto-revert-mode
 emitting message when it shouldn't
Date: Sat, 02 Aug 2025 11:04:14 +0300

> From: Tassilo Horn <tsdh <at> gnu.org>
> Cc: Jake <jforst.mailman <at> gmail.com>,   79145 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Sat, 02 Aug 2025 09:30:13 +0200
> 
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes:
> 
> Hi Eli,
> 
> >> When a buffer visits a file using doc-view-mode and auto-revert-mode
> >> is enabled in that buffer, Emacs emits the message "Type C-c C-c to
> >> toggle between editing or viewing the document."  every time the file
> >> is changed.  The message is not appropriate when the major mode of
> >> the current buffer is not doc-view-mode.
> >> 
> >> >From emacs -Q:
> >> 1. Visit a PDF file
> >> 2. M-x auto-revert-mode
> >> 3. Visit a different buffer like the scratch buffer
> >> 4. Cause the PDF file to be changed
> >> 5. Observe the message
> >
> > Tassilo, any comments or suggestions?
> 
> Jake's observation is certainly true but it's not really doc-view
> specific.  A similar case is shown by this recipe:
> 
> 1. open dired for /tmp and enable dired-omit-mode and auto-revert-mode
> 2. visit a different buffer
> 3. touch /tmp/foo in a terminal
> 4. observe the message "Omitting XX lines in /tmp"
> 
> So Jake's request can be broadened to something like "buffer-bound modes
> should suppress messages when their buffer is not visible".  I'm not
> sure if I'd want that.  And how to implement it.  I guess we certainly
> don't want to visit each (message...) in Emacs to check if it's
> appropriate to show in the "buffer not visible" case...

Perhaps some revert-mode specific variable that modes could bind to
suppress these messages?  Michael, any suggestions?

Message #20 received at 79145 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus <at> gmx.de>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: jforst.mailman <at> gmail.com, 79145 <at> debbugs.gnu.org,
 Tassilo Horn <tsdh <at> gnu.org>
Subject: Re: bug#79145: 31.0.50; doc-view-mode with auto-revert-mode
 emitting message when it shouldn't
Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2025 11:36:26 +0200

Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes:

Hi Eli,

>> >> When a buffer visits a file using doc-view-mode and auto-revert-mode
>> >> is enabled in that buffer, Emacs emits the message "Type C-c C-c to
>> >> toggle between editing or viewing the document."  every time the file
>> >> is changed.  The message is not appropriate when the major mode of
>> >> the current buffer is not doc-view-mode.
>> >>
>> >> >From emacs -Q:
>> >> 1. Visit a PDF file
>> >> 2. M-x auto-revert-mode
>> >> 3. Visit a different buffer like the scratch buffer
>> >> 4. Cause the PDF file to be changed
>> >> 5. Observe the message
>> >
>> > Tassilo, any comments or suggestions?
>>
>> Jake's observation is certainly true but it's not really doc-view
>> specific.  A similar case is shown by this recipe:
>>
>> 1. open dired for /tmp and enable dired-omit-mode and auto-revert-mode
>> 2. visit a different buffer
>> 3. touch /tmp/foo in a terminal
>> 4. observe the message "Omitting XX lines in /tmp"
>>
>> So Jake's request can be broadened to something like "buffer-bound modes
>> should suppress messages when their buffer is not visible".  I'm not
>> sure if I'd want that.  And how to implement it.  I guess we certainly
>> don't want to visit each (message...) in Emacs to check if it's
>> appropriate to show in the "buffer not visible" case...
>
> Perhaps some revert-mode specific variable that modes could bind to
> suppress these messages?  Michael, any suggestions?

In auto-revert-handler, we have the user option auto-revert-verbose. But
this is responsible only for the global "Reverting buffer `buffer'"
message.

The other messages are emitted by the respective mode-specific revert
functions. So they must be suppressed there.

In the dired case, the "Omitting ..." message could be suppressed by
let-binding dired-omit-verbose in dired-omit-expunge like

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
(dired-omit-verbose (and dired-omit-verbose (eq (get-buffer-window) (selected-window))))
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

In dov-view, there must be a similar check in doc-view-minor-mode before
emitting the message accused by this bug report.

If we want to have a general mechanism, we need a new variable
auto-revert-buffer-in-progress-p which could be consulted by the several
mode-specific revert functions implementations. Or we extend the meaning
of revert-buffer-in-progress-p to the values nil, t, and `auto'. The
latter indicates, that the revert process has been started by
auto-revert.

Best regards, Michael.

Message #23 received at 79145 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus <at> gmx.de>
Cc: jforst.mailman <at> gmail.com, 79145 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, tsdh <at> gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#79145: 31.0.50; doc-view-mode with auto-revert-mode
 emitting message when it shouldn't
Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2025 16:24:52 +0300

> From: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus <at> gmx.de>
> Cc: Tassilo Horn <tsdh <at> gnu.org>,  jforst.mailman <at> gmail.com,
>   79145 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2025 11:36:26 +0200
> 
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes:
> 
> Hi Eli,
> 
> >> >> When a buffer visits a file using doc-view-mode and auto-revert-mode
> >> >> is enabled in that buffer, Emacs emits the message "Type C-c C-c to
> >> >> toggle between editing or viewing the document."  every time the file
> >> >> is changed.  The message is not appropriate when the major mode of
> >> >> the current buffer is not doc-view-mode.
> >> >>
> >> >> >From emacs -Q:
> >> >> 1. Visit a PDF file
> >> >> 2. M-x auto-revert-mode
> >> >> 3. Visit a different buffer like the scratch buffer
> >> >> 4. Cause the PDF file to be changed
> >> >> 5. Observe the message
> >> >
> >> > Tassilo, any comments or suggestions?
> >>
> >> Jake's observation is certainly true but it's not really doc-view
> >> specific.  A similar case is shown by this recipe:
> >>
> >> 1. open dired for /tmp and enable dired-omit-mode and auto-revert-mode
> >> 2. visit a different buffer
> >> 3. touch /tmp/foo in a terminal
> >> 4. observe the message "Omitting XX lines in /tmp"
> >>
> >> So Jake's request can be broadened to something like "buffer-bound modes
> >> should suppress messages when their buffer is not visible".  I'm not
> >> sure if I'd want that.  And how to implement it.  I guess we certainly
> >> don't want to visit each (message...) in Emacs to check if it's
> >> appropriate to show in the "buffer not visible" case...
> >
> > Perhaps some revert-mode specific variable that modes could bind to
> > suppress these messages?  Michael, any suggestions?
> 
> In auto-revert-handler, we have the user option auto-revert-verbose. But
> this is responsible only for the global "Reverting buffer `buffer'"
> message.
> 
> The other messages are emitted by the respective mode-specific revert
> functions. So they must be suppressed there.
> 
> In the dired case, the "Omitting ..." message could be suppressed by
> let-binding dired-omit-verbose in dired-omit-expunge like
> 
> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
> (dired-omit-verbose (and dired-omit-verbose (eq (get-buffer-window) (selected-window))))
> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
> 
> In dov-view, there must be a similar check in doc-view-minor-mode before
> emitting the message accused by this bug report.
> 
> If we want to have a general mechanism, we need a new variable
> auto-revert-buffer-in-progress-p which could be consulted by the several
> mode-specific revert functions implementations. Or we extend the meaning
> of revert-buffer-in-progress-p to the values nil, t, and `auto'. The
> latter indicates, that the revert process has been started by
> auto-revert.

I think I'd prefer the general-mechanism solution.  Would someone like
to work on a patch along those lines?

Message #26 received at 79145 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus <at> gmx.de>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: jforst.mailman <at> gmail.com, 79145 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, tsdh <at> gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#79145: 31.0.50; doc-view-mode with auto-revert-mode
 emitting message when it shouldn't
Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2025 19:43:47 +0200

Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes:

Hi Eli,

>> If we want to have a general mechanism, we need a new variable
>> auto-revert-buffer-in-progress-p which could be consulted by the several
>> mode-specific revert functions implementations. Or we extend the meaning
>> of revert-buffer-in-progress-p to the values nil, t, and `auto'. The
>> latter indicates, that the revert process has been started by
>> auto-revert.
>
> I think I'd prefer the general-mechanism solution.  Would someone like
> to work on a patch along those lines?

I could work on the general mechanism. Which variant do you prefer,
extending revert-buffer-in-progress-p or a new auto-revert-buffer-in-progress-p?

Best regards, Michael.

Message #29 received at 79145 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus <at> gmx.de>
Cc: jforst.mailman <at> gmail.com, 79145 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, tsdh <at> gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#79145: 31.0.50; doc-view-mode with auto-revert-mode
 emitting message when it shouldn't
Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2025 21:33:56 +0300

> From: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus <at> gmx.de>
> Cc: tsdh <at> gnu.org,  jforst.mailman <at> gmail.com,  79145 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2025 19:43:47 +0200
> 
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes:
> 
> Hi Eli,
> 
> >> If we want to have a general mechanism, we need a new variable
> >> auto-revert-buffer-in-progress-p which could be consulted by the several
> >> mode-specific revert functions implementations. Or we extend the meaning
> >> of revert-buffer-in-progress-p to the values nil, t, and `auto'. The
> >> latter indicates, that the revert process has been started by
> >> auto-revert.
> >
> > I think I'd prefer the general-mechanism solution.  Would someone like
> > to work on a patch along those lines?
> 
> I could work on the general mechanism. Which variant do you prefer,
> extending revert-buffer-in-progress-p or a new auto-revert-buffer-in-progress-p?

The latter, I think.  It looks simpler, and a new variable cannot
possibly cause any backward incompatibilities.

Thanks.

Message #32 received at 79145 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Tassilo Horn <tsdh <at> gnu.org>
To: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus <at> gmx.de>
Cc: jforst.mailman <at> gmail.com, Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>,
 79145 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#79145: 31.0.50; doc-view-mode with auto-revert-mode
 emitting message when it shouldn't
Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2025 20:42:19 +0200

Michael Albinus <michael.albinus <at> gmx.de> writes:

Hi chaps,

>>> If we want to have a general mechanism, we need a new variable
>>> auto-revert-buffer-in-progress-p which could be consulted by the
>>> several mode-specific revert functions implementations. Or we extend
>>> the meaning of revert-buffer-in-progress-p to the values nil, t, and
>>> `auto'. The latter indicates, that the revert process has been
>>> started by auto-revert.
>>
>> I think I'd prefer the general-mechanism solution.  Would someone
>> like to work on a patch along those lines?
>
> I could work on the general mechanism. Which variant do you prefer,
> extending revert-buffer-in-progress-p or a new
> auto-revert-buffer-in-progress-p?

I have the feeling that such a solution would be overkill.  Let me
explain:

As Jake has clarified, he's not strictly opposing all messages relating
to non-current buffers but this doc-view message is problematic
especially because it advertises a key-binding which only has the
advertised effect in a doc-view buffer.  So I guess we could simply
guard that message with something like

  (when (get-buffer-window (current-buffer) (selected-frame))
    (message ...))

or probably better

  (let ((inhibit-message (get-buffer-window
                          (current-buffer) (selected-frame))))
    (message ...))

so that it's still logged in *Messages* which would be a less drastical
change.

If we'd really like to have an option which says "don't bother me with
messages relating to buffers which are not current (or visible)", then
auto-revert is just one out of several possible causes.  Timers are
another one, e.g., messages from Gnus fetching mail.  Or modes doing
asynchronous communication.  And then one probably wants to be able to
define that certain messages are fine although the corresponding buffer
isn't current/visible ("You have 3 new mails", "The compilation of foo
has finished") but others not...

Bye,
Tassilo

Message #35 received at 79145 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Tassilo Horn <tsdh <at> gnu.org>
Cc: jforst.mailman <at> gmail.com, 79145 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, michael.albinus <at> gmx.de
Subject: Re: bug#79145: 31.0.50; doc-view-mode with auto-revert-mode
 emitting message when it shouldn't
Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2025 21:55:56 +0300

> From: Tassilo Horn <tsdh <at> gnu.org>
> Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>,   jforst.mailman <at> gmail.com,
>    79145 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2025 20:42:19 +0200
> 
> >> I think I'd prefer the general-mechanism solution.  Would someone
> >> like to work on a patch along those lines?
> >
> > I could work on the general mechanism. Which variant do you prefer,
> > extending revert-buffer-in-progress-p or a new
> > auto-revert-buffer-in-progress-p?
> 
> I have the feeling that such a solution would be overkill.

How can a single variable be overkill?

> Let me explain:
> 
> As Jake has clarified, he's not strictly opposing all messages relating
> to non-current buffers but this doc-view message is problematic
> especially because it advertises a key-binding which only has the
> advertised effect in a doc-view buffer.  So I guess we could simply
> guard that message with something like
> 
>   (when (get-buffer-window (current-buffer) (selected-frame))
>     (message ...))
> 
> or probably better
> 
>   (let ((inhibit-message (get-buffer-window
>                           (current-buffer) (selected-frame))))
>     (message ...))
> 
> so that it's still logged in *Messages* which would be a less drastical
> change.

But it was you yourself who claimed that the problem is more general
than just the above.  Did you now change your mind?  Or what did I
miss?

> If we'd really like to have an option which says "don't bother me with
> messages relating to buffers which are not current (or visible)", then
> auto-revert is just one out of several possible causes.  Timers are
> another one, e.g., messages from Gnus fetching mail.  Or modes doing
> asynchronous communication.  And then one probably wants to be able to
> define that certain messages are fine although the corresponding buffer
> isn't current/visible ("You have 3 new mails", "The compilation of foo
> has finished") but others not...

So now you are saying that even solving this for all auto-revert
clients is not general enough?

Message #38 received at 79145 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: "Tassilo Horn" <tsdh <at> gnu.org>
To: "Eli Zaretskii" <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: jforst.mailman <at> gmail.com, 79145 <at> debbugs.gnu.org,
 Michael Albinus <michael.albinus <at> gmx.de>
Subject: Re: bug#79145: 31.0.50;
 doc-view-mode with auto-revert-mode emitting message when it shouldn't
Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2025 21:20:07 +0200

Am Do, 7. Aug 2025, um 20:55, schrieb Eli Zaretskii:
>
> But it was you yourself who claimed that the problem is more general
> than just the above.  Did you now change your mind?  Or what did I
> miss?

Jake's clarification in which he told that especially the advertisement of the doc-view specific key-binding is the actual problem which makes it much worse than the dired example I came up with.

>> If we'd really like to have an option which says "don't bother me with
>> messages relating to buffers which are not current (or visible)", then
>> auto-revert is just one out of several possible causes.  Timers are
>> another one, e.g., messages from Gnus fetching mail.  Or modes doing
>> asynchronous communication.  And then one probably wants to be able to
>> define that certain messages are fine although the corresponding buffer
>> isn't current/visible ("You have 3 new mails", "The compilation of foo
>> has finished") but others not...
>
> So now you are saying that even solving this for all auto-revert
> clients is not general enough?

It looks to me like complexity which only solves half of a problem which was my initial interpretation of the bug report but not what the reporter had in mind. I would not enable such an option if it existed, so I suggest we just ignore my "accidental feature request" and I'll only fix specifically what Jake complained about.

Bye,
Tassilo

Message #41 received at 79145 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Tassilo Horn <tsdh <at> gnu.org>
To: "Eli Zaretskii" <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: jforst.mailman <at> gmail.com, 79145 <at> debbugs.gnu.org,
 Michael Albinus <michael.albinus <at> gmx.de>
Subject: Re: bug#79145: 31.0.50; doc-view-mode with auto-revert-mode
 emitting message when it shouldn't
Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2025 07:03:53 +0200

"Tassilo Horn" <tsdh <at> gnu.org> writes:

>> But it was you yourself who claimed that the problem is more general
>> than just the above.  Did you now change your mind?  Or what did I
>> miss?
>
> Jake's clarification in which he told that especially the
> advertisement of the doc-view specific key-binding is the actual
> problem which makes it much worse than the dired example I came up
> with.

I've fixed that now on master by binding inhibit-message when the
document buffer is not shown in the selected window so that the message
isn't shown in the echo area but still logged to *Messages*.

I'm not 100% sure if "buffer isn't shown in the selected window" or
"buffer isn't shown at all in the selected frame" is the better
criterion.  What are your opinions?

Bye,
Tassilo

Message #44 received at 79145 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: "Tassilo Horn" <tsdh <at> gnu.org>
Cc: jforst.mailman <at> gmail.com, 79145 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, michael.albinus <at> gmx.de
Subject: Re: bug#79145: 31.0.50;
 doc-view-mode with auto-revert-mode emitting message when it shouldn't
Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2025 08:47:24 +0300

> Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2025 21:20:07 +0200
> From: "Tassilo Horn" <tsdh <at> gnu.org>
> Cc: "Michael Albinus" <michael.albinus <at> gmx.de>, jforst.mailman <at> gmail.com,
>  79145 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> 
> Am Do, 7. Aug 2025, um 20:55, schrieb Eli Zaretskii:
> >
> > But it was you yourself who claimed that the problem is more general
> > than just the above.  Did you now change your mind?  Or what did I
> > miss?
> 
> Jake's clarification in which he told that especially the advertisement of the doc-view specific key-binding is the actual problem which makes it much worse than the dired example I came up with.
> 
> >> If we'd really like to have an option which says "don't bother me with
> >> messages relating to buffers which are not current (or visible)", then
> >> auto-revert is just one out of several possible causes.  Timers are
> >> another one, e.g., messages from Gnus fetching mail.  Or modes doing
> >> asynchronous communication.  And then one probably wants to be able to
> >> define that certain messages are fine although the corresponding buffer
> >> isn't current/visible ("You have 3 new mails", "The compilation of foo
> >> has finished") but others not...
> >
> > So now you are saying that even solving this for all auto-revert
> > clients is not general enough?
> 
> It looks to me like complexity which only solves half of a problem which was my initial interpretation of the bug report but not what the reporter had in mind. I would not enable such an option if it existed, so I suggest we just ignore my "accidental feature request" and I'll only fix specifically what Jake complained about.

Fine by me, thanks.

Message #47 received at 79145 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Tassilo Horn <tsdh <at> gnu.org>
Cc: jforst.mailman <at> gmail.com, 79145 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, michael.albinus <at> gmx.de
Subject: Re: bug#79145: 31.0.50; doc-view-mode with auto-revert-mode
 emitting message when it shouldn't
Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2025 09:21:46 +0300

> From: Tassilo Horn <tsdh <at> gnu.org>
> Cc: "Michael Albinus" <michael.albinus <at> gmx.de>,   jforst.mailman <at> gmail.com,
>    79145 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2025 07:03:53 +0200
> 
> "Tassilo Horn" <tsdh <at> gnu.org> writes:
> 
> >> But it was you yourself who claimed that the problem is more general
> >> than just the above.  Did you now change your mind?  Or what did I
> >> miss?
> >
> > Jake's clarification in which he told that especially the
> > advertisement of the doc-view specific key-binding is the actual
> > problem which makes it much worse than the dired example I came up
> > with.
> 
> I've fixed that now on master by binding inhibit-message when the
> document buffer is not shown in the selected window so that the message
> isn't shown in the echo area but still logged to *Messages*.

Thanks.

> I'm not 100% sure if "buffer isn't shown in the selected window" or
> "buffer isn't shown at all in the selected frame" is the better
> criterion.  What are your opinions?

I don't have an opinion, I hope Jake will tell.

Message #50 received at 79145 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Jake <jforst.mailman <at> gmail.com>
To: Tassilo Horn <tsdh <at> gnu.org>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>, 79145 <at> debbugs.gnu.org,
 Michael Albinus <michael.albinus <at> gmx.de>
Subject: Re: bug#79145: 31.0.50; doc-view-mode with auto-revert-mode emitting
 message when it shouldn't
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2025 16:19:35 +0930

[Message part 1 (text/plain, inline)]

Many thanks, Tassilo.

Because the message mentions the key binding, my vote is to only display it
when the buffer is in the selected window.

Jake

On Fri, 8 Aug 2025 at 2:34 pm, Tassilo Horn <tsdh <at> gnu.org> wrote:

> "Tassilo Horn" <tsdh <at> gnu.org> writes:
>
> >> But it was you yourself who claimed that the problem is more general
> >> than just the above.  Did you now change your mind?  Or what did I
> >> miss?
> >
> > Jake's clarification in which he told that especially the
> > advertisement of the doc-view specific key-binding is the actual
> > problem which makes it much worse than the dired example I came up
> > with.
>
> I've fixed that now on master by binding inhibit-message when the
> document buffer is not shown in the selected window so that the message
> isn't shown in the echo area but still logged to *Messages*.
>
> I'm not 100% sure if "buffer isn't shown in the selected window" or
> "buffer isn't shown at all in the selected frame" is the better
> criterion.  What are your opinions?
>
> Bye,
> Tassilo
>

[Message part 2 (text/html, inline)]

Message #55 received at 79145-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Tassilo Horn <tsdh <at> gnu.org>
To: Jake <jforst.mailman <at> gmail.com>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>, Michael Albinus <michael.albinus <at> gmx.de>,
 79145-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#79145: 31.0.50; doc-view-mode with auto-revert-mode
 emitting message when it shouldn't
Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2025 12:55:07 +0200

Jake <jforst.mailman <at> gmail.com> writes:

Hi Jake,

> Because the message mentions the key binding, my vote is to only
> display it when the buffer is in the selected window.

Alright, that's how I've done it so let's keep it that way.  I'm closing
the bug.

Thanks,
Tassilo

Message #58 received at 79145 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus <at> gmx.de>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: jforst.mailman <at> gmail.com, 79145 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, tsdh <at> gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#79145: 31.0.50; doc-view-mode with auto-revert-mode
 emitting message when it shouldn't
Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2025 13:30:45 +0200

Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes:

Hi Eli,
 
>> >> If we want to have a general mechanism, we need a new variable
>> >> auto-revert-buffer-in-progress-p which could be consulted by the several
>> >> mode-specific revert functions implementations. Or we extend the meaning
>> >> of revert-buffer-in-progress-p to the values nil, t, and `auto'. The
>> >> latter indicates, that the revert process has been started by
>> >> auto-revert.
>> >
>> > I think I'd prefer the general-mechanism solution.  Would someone like
>> > to work on a patch along those lines?
>> 
>> I could work on the general mechanism. Which variant do you prefer,
>> extending revert-buffer-in-progress-p or a new auto-revert-buffer-in-progress-p?
>
> The latter, I think.  It looks simpler, and a new variable cannot
> possibly cause any backward incompatibilities.

I've added auto-revert-buffer-in-progress-p in master. Used also to
suppress messages in dired-omit-expunge when auto-reverting.

Even if it isn't used in doc-view, it could help other reverting
functions to be less chatty.

> Thanks.

Best regards, Michael.

Message #61 received at 79145 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus <at> gmx.de>
Cc: jforst.mailman <at> gmail.com, 79145 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, tsdh <at> gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#79145: 31.0.50; doc-view-mode with auto-revert-mode
 emitting message when it shouldn't
Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2025 14:36:55 +0300

Message #64 received at 79145 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus <at> gmx.de>
Cc: jforst.mailman <at> gmail.com, 79145 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, tsdh <at> gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#79145: 31.0.50; doc-view-mode with auto-revert-mode
 emitting message when it shouldn't
Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2025 14:37:40 +0300

> From: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus <at> gmx.de>
> Cc: tsdh <at> gnu.org,  jforst.mailman <at> gmail.com,  79145 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2025 13:30:45 +0200
> 
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes:
> 
> >> I could work on the general mechanism. Which variant do you prefer,
> >> extending revert-buffer-in-progress-p or a new auto-revert-buffer-in-progress-p?
> >
> > The latter, I think.  It looks simpler, and a new variable cannot
> > possibly cause any backward incompatibilities.
> 
> I've added auto-revert-buffer-in-progress-p in master. Used also to
> suppress messages in dired-omit-expunge when auto-reverting.
> 
> Even if it isn't used in doc-view, it could help other reverting
> functions to be less chatty.

Thanks.

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