From unknown Thu Aug 14 21:49:41 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#79140 <79140@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#79140 <79140@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: 29.1; Editing the occur buffer: not possible to remove lines Reply-To: bug#79140 <79140@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2025 04:49:41 +0000 retitle 79140 29.1; Editing the occur buffer: not possible to remove lines reassign 79140 emacs submitter 79140 Jurgen De Backer severity 79140 normal thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Aug 01 12:57:28 2025 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Aug 2025 16:57:28 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56968 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1uht4Q-0003ye-Ro for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 01 Aug 2025 12:57:28 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:470:142::17]:45958) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1uht4L-0003yA-Nq for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; 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Fri, 1 Aug 2025 18:57:03 +0200 Received: from dhws059.eurocontrol.int (dhws059.cfmu.corp.eurocontrol.int [10.130.84.68]) by dhinfd01.eurocontrol.int (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13C3B53BE; Fri, 1 Aug 2025 16:57:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: by dhws059.eurocontrol.int (Postfix, from userid 36261) id EE6D0200A3; Fri, 1 Aug 2025 16:57:02 +0000 (UTC) From: Jurgen De Backer To: Subject: 29.1; Editing the occur buffer: not possible to remove lines Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2025 16:57:02 +0000 Message-ID: <80qfrebugip.fsf@eurocontrol.int> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Received-SPF: pass client-ip=68.232.139.104; envelope-from=prvs=301cf6606=jurgen.de-backer.ext@eurocontrol.int; helo=esa2.eurocontrol.c3s2.iphmx.com X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H5=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_CERTIFIED_BLOCKED=0.001, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_RPBL_BLOCKED=0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) Hi, When comparing the behaviour of editing the occur buffer, we noted that in emacs 29.1 it is no longer possible to remove entire lines= of occurrences. When I do an occur, I often want to filter the result by using delete-match= ing lines. I used to do that by doing C-x C-q (toggle read only). But since emacs 29.1 the text itself is marked read only. At least the line number of the match can no longer be deleted. 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From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Aug 07 10:22:12 2025 Received: (at 79140) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Aug 2025 14:22:13 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35387 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1uk1VU-0002Nc-BF for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2025 10:22:12 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:33702) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1uk1VP-0002Mv-F8 for 79140@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2025 10:22:07 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1uk1VJ-0006H4-H3; Thu, 07 Aug 2025 10:22:01 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=oGHL2sjldFjyt2ihbgZ65eNjDUczYEl+Iut/Tz4ix8U=; b=fU0a9B6VU0CA T4qr6KZSuhDI+/+u4ifuqzGNdKfE7wCSeX2+nVbiS0oSQsXkx6brc+B/JBmvB0Ir0PJV9X5vgQidH MOpcCNzaU+rp6T9DIgJpKW3wirZj4rZJIFxGDLHsqA7LcpYVnlS+dNNdHA2woXcCA8VJEf84gd9G+ oJXl/8HQCwadrWU1MZmM8EVR3pjaMvK2y+jp724PiPEDwpzeHAb8LYL7mPggK/D0vZgsfyURXwqVR +CZWJzy0Ou2n1+bO79P1S40VFEENPnQAgdevQVEzntzrO0tpj9gFfx1bJZ9OBv1E9a5qhMQCTyzTs mbRwWPG49ZKzkCV17ApE8w==; Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2025 17:21:58 +0300 Message-Id: <86y0rvp5yx.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Jurgen De Backer In-Reply-To: <80qfrebugip.fsf@eurocontrol.int> (bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org) Subject: Re: bug#79140: 29.1; Editing the occur buffer: not possible to remove lines References: <80qfrebugip.fsf@eurocontrol.int> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 79140 Cc: 79140@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2025 16:57:02 +0000 > From: Jurgen De Backer via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, > the Swiss army knife of text editors" > > When comparing the behaviour of editing the occur buffer, > we noted that in emacs 29.1 it is no longer possible to remove entire lines of > occurrences. > > When I do an occur, I often want to filter the result by using delete-matching lines. > I used to do that by doing C-x C-q (toggle read only). > But since emacs 29.1 the text itself is marked read only. At least the > line number of the match can no longer be deleted. See bug#53419 for why we made that change. You could remove the read-only text properties from the buffer in your occur-mode-hook, I think. Did you try that? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Aug 08 02:31:17 2025 Received: (at 79140) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Aug 2025 06:31:17 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36828 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ukGdJ-0005eD-5W for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2025 02:31:17 -0400 Received: from mout-p-202.mailbox.org ([80.241.56.172]:36394) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ukGdC-0005df-FT; Fri, 08 Aug 2025 02:31:14 -0400 Received: from smtp102.mailbox.org (smtp102.mailbox.org [IPv6:2001:67c:2050:b231:465::102]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by mout-p-202.mailbox.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4byvLF4vV7z9t9R; Fri, 8 Aug 2025 08:31:01 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=linkov.net; s=MBO0001; t=1754634661; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=se6qcG8h3PFB6XLPC5NTEmJHY2020NWOqvF4MgKPtlI=; b=QJUXQb3GNuDGRrxgNK6sMnKYt7g7Q8nN8SAMVn+Nxc0bUTCn+yJUK6fHlY0b8pKEOyAsU3 QMnemjxrYWMakmeMUaAzQpYMLM5A6tthEg8dVt0ScjVcgx9TUH+ev1YMAdTFMOMysIFgUE 1HOpMkg9VKBiRbjoIOMpuQeD3wAUPHOb5OabgEFvyonan/oUnyVlVajsPbIjluyXmOVOAB /grUHAZ4+ktRdne9L3WE0xxKZQyQ4qnv3V54VarOA2dmT9Dor4LRlSwa+GnBVjukZW9iym HwU5j4dYX04pLEPOlm4370rVg6mvq/M8/eWRys7/RWt4Eo542VNLHlM80Nilzg== Authentication-Results: outgoing_mbo_mout; dkim=none; spf=pass (outgoing_mbo_mout: domain of juri@linkov.net designates 2001:67c:2050:b231:465::102 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=juri@linkov.net From: Juri Linkov To: Jurgen De Backer Subject: Re: bug#79140: 29.1; Editing the occur buffer: not possible to remove lines In-Reply-To: <80qfrebugip.fsf@eurocontrol.int> Organization: LINKOV.NET References: <80qfrebugip.fsf@eurocontrol.int> Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2025 09:20:10 +0300 Message-ID: <87pld672qw.fsf@mail.linkov.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4byvLF4vV7z9t9R X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 79140 Cc: 79140@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) forcemerge 79140 75996 thanks > When comparing the behaviour of editing the occur buffer, > we noted that in emacs 29.1 it is no longer possible to remove entire lines of > occurrences. > > When I do an occur, I often want to filter the result by using delete-matching lines. > I used to do that by doing C-x C-q (toggle read only). > But since emacs 29.1 the text itself is marked read only. At least the > line number of the match can no longer be deleted. Thanks for the bug report. We are fixing it in bug#75530 and bug#75996. Sorry for no progress so far.