GNU bug report logs - #79082
30.1; [reproducibility] sysinfo call during profile dump

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Package: emacs;

Reported by: Nicolas Graves <ngraves <at> ngraves.fr>

Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2025 14:11:02 UTC

Severity: normal

Found in version 30.1

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Message #8 received at 79082 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: "Dr. Werner Fink" <werner <at> suse.de>
To: Nicolas Graves <ngraves <at> ngraves.fr>
Cc: 79082 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Liliana Marie Prikler <liliana.prikler <at> gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [emacs-bug] bug#79082: 30.1; [reproducibility] sysinfo call
 during profile dump
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2025 16:13:08 +0200
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On 2025/07/23 16:09:41 +0200, Nicolas Graves wrote:
> 
> Hi emacs,
> 
> I recently worked a bit on reproducibility which is not guaranteed in
> particular in the profile dump.  I found that undeterminism during the
> profile dump comes from two sources : calls to clock_gettime and
> sysinfo.
> 
> clock_gettime is not that hard to patch using faketime, but it's called
> multiple times so it'll be harder to find where in the codebase.
> 
> We don't have dedicated tools to patch sysinfo without compiling an
> additional file an using the same LD_PRELOAD trick as faketime, but
> there's actually an OK solution on the lisp side, IMHO (this is what I
> propose for guix's emacs <at> 30.1, but it'd be great to add that on the next
> release: 
> 
> (add-after 'unpack 'avoid-sysinfo-call-at-build-time
>  (lambda _
>   ;; This is a useful trick for reproducibility: when we configured
>   ;; with --disable-build-details, (system-name) is nil at build
>   ;; time on the lisp side.
>   ;; Find those places with strace -k -e sysinfo.
>   (substitute* "lisp/jit-lock.el"
>     (("\\(condition-case nil \\(load-average\\) \\(error\\)\\)"
>       all)
>      (format #f "(and (system-name) ~a)" all)))))
> 
> It's only a single line change (with maybe a comment addition), please
> proceed without my feedback if I don't answer, it doesn't deserve a
> copyright citation.

After some debugging with a helper function I've identified two
lisp objects, a Lisp Float which are set by the garbage collector,
and a Lisp Cons set by the initial lisp timestamp at startup.
Both are changing at every dump therefore avoid them or use
a fixed value at dump time.

During debugging I stumbled over some inconsistencies in
pdumper.c which are already fixed in upstream master branch.

Signed-off-by: Werner Fink <werner <at> suse.de>
---
 src/alloc.c   |    4 ++--
 src/pdumper.c |   10 +++++-----
 src/timefns.c |   34 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 3 files changed, 41 insertions(+), 7 deletions(-)

--- src/alloc.c
+++ src/alloc.c	2025-07-10 10:54:56.217020919 +0000
@@ -6702,8 +6702,8 @@ garbage_collect (void)
   image_prune_animation_caches (false);
 #endif
 
-  /* Accumulate statistics.  */
-  if (FLOATP (Vgc_elapsed))
+  /* Accumulate statistics, but not during dump to get reproducible pdmp images.  */
+  if (FLOATP (Vgc_elapsed) && !will_dump_p ())
     {
       static struct timespec gc_elapsed;
       gc_elapsed = timespec_add (gc_elapsed,
--- src/pdumper.c
+++ src/pdumper.c	2025-07-09 07:26:00.889706813 +0000
@@ -2140,9 +2140,9 @@ dump_interval_node (struct dump_context
   if (node->parent)
     dump_field_fixup_later (ctx, &out, node, &node->parent);
   if (node->left)
-    dump_field_fixup_later (ctx, &out, node, &node->parent);
+    dump_field_fixup_later (ctx, &out, node, &node->left);
   if (node->right)
-    dump_field_fixup_later (ctx, &out, node, &node->parent);
+    dump_field_fixup_later (ctx, &out, node, &node->right);
   DUMP_FIELD_COPY (&out, node, begin);
   DUMP_FIELD_COPY (&out, node, end);
   DUMP_FIELD_COPY (&out, node, limit);
@@ -2213,9 +2213,9 @@ dump_finalizer (struct dump_context *ctx
   /* Do _not_ call dump_pseudovector_lisp_fields here: we dump the
      only Lisp field, finalizer->function, manually, so we can give it
      a low weight.  */
-  dump_field_lv (ctx, &out, finalizer, &finalizer->function, WEIGHT_NONE);
-  dump_field_finalizer_ref (ctx, &out, finalizer, &finalizer->prev);
-  dump_field_finalizer_ref (ctx, &out, finalizer, &finalizer->next);
+  dump_field_lv (ctx, out, finalizer, &finalizer->function, WEIGHT_NONE);
+  dump_field_finalizer_ref (ctx, out, finalizer, &finalizer->prev);
+  dump_field_finalizer_ref (ctx, out, finalizer, &finalizer->next);
   return finish_dump_pvec (ctx, &out->header);
 }
 
--- src/timefns.c
+++ src/timefns.c	2025-07-11 07:32:33.928031852 +0000
@@ -600,6 +600,40 @@ make_lisp_time (struct timespec t)
 Lisp_Object
 timespec_to_lisp (struct timespec t)
 {
+  if (will_dump_p())	/* Use provided epoch at dump to get reproducible pdmp images */
+    {
+      char *epoch;
+      epoch = secure_getenv("SOURCE_DATE_EPOCH");
+      if (epoch)
+        {
+          char *endptr;
+          const char env[] = "Environment variable SOURCE_DATE_EPOCH: ";
+          errno = 0;
+          t.tv_sec = strtoull(epoch, &endptr, 10);
+          if ((errno == ERANGE && (t.tv_sec == ULLONG_MAX || t.tv_sec == 0)) ||\
+              (errno != 0 && t.tv_sec == 0))
+            {
+              fprintf(stderr, "%s strtoull: %m\n", env);
+              exit(EXIT_FAILURE);
+            }
+          if (endptr == epoch)
+            {
+              fprintf(stderr, "%s No digits were found: %s\n", env, endptr);
+              exit(EXIT_FAILURE);
+            }
+          if (*endptr != '\0')
+            {
+              fprintf(stderr, "%s Trailing garbage: %s\n", env, endptr);
+              exit(EXIT_FAILURE);
+            }
+          if (t.tv_sec > ULONG_MAX)
+            {
+              fprintf(stderr, "%s value must be smaller than or equal to %lu but was found to be: %ld \n", env, ULONG_MAX, t.tv_sec);
+              exit(EXIT_FAILURE);
+            }
+          t.tv_nsec = 0ULL;
+        }
+    }
   return Fcons (timespec_ticks (t), timespec_hz);
 }
 
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