Subject: bug#79070: [PATCH] Fix macOS dictation post NSTextInputClient migration in v30

From: Eli Zaretskii <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2025 13:45:53 +0300

> From: Alvaro Ramirez <[email-masked]>
> Cc: Eli Zaretskii <[email-masked]>,  [email-masked],
>   [email-masked],  [email-masked],  [email-masked]
> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2025 17:15:27 +0100
> 
> 
> Alvaro Ramirez <[email-masked]> writes:
> 
> >  On 22 Jul 2025, at 15:23, Stéphane Marks <[email-masked]> 
> >  wrote:
> >
> >  On Tue, Jul 22, 2025 at 10:21 AM Eli Zaretskii <[email-masked]> 
> >  wrote:
> >
> >  > From: Alvaro Ramirez <[email-masked]>
> >  > Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2025 15:00:18 +0100
> >  > Cc: Stéphane Marks <[email-masked]>,
> >  >  Eli Zaretskii <[email-masked]>,
> >  >  [email-masked],
> >  >  [email-masked],
> >  >  [email-masked]
> >  >
> >  > +1 I’d like to propose we treat macOS 12.7.6 / Intel as a 
> >  > separate issue if that’s ok?
> >
> >  If that is what we want to do, then the PROBLEMS entry should 
> >  be
> >  updated to say that older versions of macOS are not supported 
> >  by this
> >  feature in Emacs.
> >
> >  But, older than what specific macOS version will be the 
> >  question to answer,
> >
> > We can only go with the information we have available as of 
> > today, given the hardware and macOS versions we have
> > access to. With new data points, we would update this info.
> >
> > I’m happy to update PROBLEMS with the data we know today (maybe 
> > something like “There are reports of this feature
> > being unavailable for macOS 12 users").
> 
> Updated PROBLEMS (attaching 
> 0005-Enabled-macOS-dictation-post-NSTextInputClient-migration.patch)

Thanks, but one of my previous comments, viz.:

  This should explain better what are the indications of the problem.

is still not addressed.

> A tiny bit of additional info with respect to roll back (yields 
> deprecation warning) vs roll forward fix... macOS seems to use a 
> different dictation mechanism after NSTextInputClient was 
> introduced (Emacs v30). Attaching screenshots showing different UI 
> dictation triggered by either patch.

Could you please spell out what that means for Emacs users?