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Add some multi-character pairs to some major modes.

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Message #50 received at 79047 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Alan Mackenzie <acm <at> muc.de>
Cc: 79047 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, acm <at> muc.de, eg642616 <at> gmail.com, jm <at> pub.pink,
 monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca
Subject: Re: bug#79047: Add some multi-character pairs to some major modes.
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2025 09:53:03 +0300

> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2025 18:47:24 +0000
> Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>, eg642616 <at> gmail.com, 79047 <at> debbugs.gnu.org,
>   jm <at> pub.pink, acm <at> muc.de
> From: Alan Mackenzie <acm <at> muc.de>
> 
> > > But electric pair mode's implementation violates an (unwritten) Emacs
> > > convention about hooks, i.e. that a hook function doesn't mess with
> > > the functionality that invoked it.  For example, a function in
> > > window-scroll-functions may not change the scrolling state of a
> > > window, and an after-change-functions function never changes the text
> > > of a buffer.
> 
> > > By contrast, electric-pair-post-self-insert-function does mess with
> > > the invoking functionality, namely self-insert-command; it inserts
> > > further characters.  From the point of view of a Lisp program, this
> > > makes self-insert-function an undefined function - what it does
> > > varies from time to time and from buffer to buffer.
> 
> As you're aware, when faced with a problem, I tend to analyse the cause
> at the appropriately abstract level, and then fix that cause, rather than
> just paper over the problem with some unsatisfactory workaround.
> 
> The fundamental cause of this problem with electric pair mode is, I
> believe, in my two quoted paragraphs above.  I ask you to answer the
> points made in these two paragraphs.

And as I already mention, you perceive a convention where there is
none.  Thus electric-pair-mode doesn't violate any conventions.

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