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Visit a directory with Dired, move to any file, and execut= e
the following code with eval-expression:

=C2=A0 (dired-get-mark= ed-files nil 'marked)

It returns nil, even though the docstring = for dired-get-marked-files
says "If ARG is any other [ie, not = an integer] non-nil value, return
the current file name."=C2= =A0=C2=A0This is because the ARG argument is
passed to dired-map-= over-marks,=C2=A0which interprets the symbol
"marked" i= n this way.

For context, I was looking for a way to get a list of = marked files, or
nil if no files are explicitly marked.=C2=A0 The docstr= ing for
dired-get-marked-files does not admit such a usage, but it actua= lly is
possible, as described above.


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=C2=A0cairo version 1.18.= 0) of 2025-01-29 built on system76-pc Windowing
=C2=A0system distributor= 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.12302006 System
=C2=A0Desc= ription: Ubuntu 24.04.1 LTS

Configured using:
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Configured features:
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LIBSELINU= X LIBXML2 MODULES NOTIFY INOTIFY PDUMPER PNG RSVG SECCOMP SOUND
SQLITE3 = THREADS TIFF TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS TREE_SITTER WEBP X11 XDBE XIM
XINPUT2 X= PM GTK3 ZLIB

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Major mode: ELisp/l

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= =C2=A0 paredit-mode: t
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In prior versions it works > as the doc says: (dired-get-marked-files nil 'marked) > returns the file name on the current line. > Wait, so dired-get-marked-files isn't *supposed* to be able to distinguish between a single explicitly marked file and no files being marked? But that's information that I need. How do I get it, if not with dired-get-marked-files? --0000000000009a872b063a2be197 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Thu, Jul 17, 2025 at 3:42=E2=80=AFPM D= rew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.co= m> wrote:
Good find!

It's not a doc bug, it's a product bug - a regression
introduced in Emacs 29.=C2=A0 In prior versions it works
as the doc says: (dired-get-marked-files nil 'marked)
returns the file name on the current line.

W= ait, so dired-get-marked-files isn't supposed to be able to dist= inguish between
a sin= gle explicitly marked file and no files being marked?=C2=A0 But that's = information
that I ne= ed.=C2=A0 How do I get it, if not with dired-get-marked-files?

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Ac12FXyQuhxekpUDKIb54itMQA0RRvsq5CS6EDNqXIJez8UeijuGuks_efJ9a1k Message-ID: Subject: Re: [External] : bug#79042: 29.4; dired-get-marked-files docstring is incorrect To: Drew Adams Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000009257c063a38c147" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 79042 Cc: "79042@debbugs.gnu.org" <79042@debbugs.gnu.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) --00000000000009257c063a38c147 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Jul 18, 2025 at 9:27=E2=80=AFAM Drew Adams = wrote: > >> It's not a doc bug, it's a product bug - a regression > >> introduced in Emacs 29. In prior versions it works > >> as the doc says: (dired-get-marked-files nil 'marked) > >> returns the file name on the current line. > > > > Wait, so dired-get-marked-files isn't supposed to be able to > > distinguish between a single explicitly marked file and no files > > being marked? But that's information that I need. > > How do I get it, if not with dired-get-marked-files? > > Mea culpa. I shouldn't have said the Emacs 29+ behavior > of recognizing a special `marked' value for ARG is a bug. > (It's maybe not the best way to allow that behavior, but > it's OK.) > I understood, I'm just astonished that the current behavior is considered a bug, since it seems so useful. Is there a compelling reason not to allow dired-get-marked-files to return nil when no files are explicitly marked, when it's given a special distinguished value for ARG? It's a pattern that's used in many other places. --00000000000009257c063a38c147 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Fri, Jul 18, 2025 at 9:27=E2=80=AFAM D= rew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.co= m> wrote:
>> It's not a doc b= ug, it's a product bug - a regression
>> introduced in Emacs 29.=C2=A0 In prior versions it works
>> as the doc says: (dired-get-marked-files nil 'marked)
>> returns the file name on the current line.
>
> Wait, so dired-get-marked-files isn't supposed to be able to
> distinguish between a single explicitly marked file and no files
> being marked?=C2=A0 But that's information that I need.
> How do I get it, if not with dired-get-marked-files?

Mea culpa.=C2=A0 I shouldn't have said the Emacs 29+ behavior
of recognizing a special `marked' value for ARG is a bug.
(It's maybe not the best way to allow that behavior, but
it's OK.)

I understood, I'm jus= t astonished that the current behavior is
considered a bug, since= it seems so useful.=C2=A0 Is there a
compelling reason not to al= low dired-get-marked-files to
return nil when no files are explic= itly marked, when it's
given a special distinguished value fo= r ARG?=C2=A0 It's a
pattern that's used in many other pla= ces.

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eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ud4Sk-0005ZR-TO; Sat, 19 Jul 2025 06:06:38 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=icaFrw1Be/oV3RtMSqbBDqMo2sm+C7V5qnJaIoUAzEM=; b=R1o7Bf5HqLQsR9ma8OEe xRHfldsGP1g0UzkDSGPCJbf7DjWRp2XEtoFfaZpvwA2aUjMjsBfUIH4K3jK2+I7xG8jlmJ64haSnL iwqAq877MMKTFYVBUtd64xEGE3LYXGXMgW0DD+7e+52bS6afPx+PMqL1cNqRZkTK+Ek1EunZm+UnW ybqTIBO4wNslcqc7yRDIrWilupyTh3sKsaqS9ZNXTVmJALk1f1UiwiN3Ia5eJafDShWNITq80wvOV wikM7gj7nWoV/JwJQdWRibsZIY79sVL4QQ3R2varfAIfGdIj+4pqMAxEQAJs8emB7QHBwGJdBTFFo puOfdanXsJZOOQ==; Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2025 13:06:36 +0300 Message-Id: <86bjpgebpv.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Sean McAfee In-Reply-To: (message from Sean McAfee on Fri, 18 Jul 2025 12:01:20 -0700) Subject: Re: bug#79042: 29.4; dired-get-marked-files docstring is incorrect References: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 79042 Cc: 79042@debbugs.gnu.org, drew.adams@oracle.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Cc: "79042@debbugs.gnu.org" <79042@debbugs.gnu.org> > From: Sean McAfee > Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2025 12:01:20 -0700 > > On Fri, Jul 18, 2025 at 9:27 AM Drew Adams wrote: > > >> It's not a doc bug, it's a product bug - a regression > >> introduced in Emacs 29. In prior versions it works > >> as the doc says: (dired-get-marked-files nil 'marked) > >> returns the file name on the current line. > > > > Wait, so dired-get-marked-files isn't supposed to be able to > > distinguish between a single explicitly marked file and no files > > being marked? But that's information that I need. > > How do I get it, if not with dired-get-marked-files? You could call dired-get-marked-files with nil ARG and then with ARG equal to 'marked', and compare the results. > Mea culpa. I shouldn't have said the Emacs 29+ behavior > of recognizing a special `marked' value for ARG is a bug. > (It's maybe not the best way to allow that behavior, but > it's OK.) > > I understood, I'm just astonished that the current behavior is > considered a bug, since it seems so useful. Is there a > compelling reason not to allow dired-get-marked-files to > return nil when no files are explicitly marked, when it's > given a special distinguished value for ARG? It's a > pattern that's used in many other places. The previous behavior wasn't a bug. The new special value of 'marked' was introduced in support of the new user option dired-mouse-drag-files, which needs to distinguish between the two cases. Since the special value 'marked' is new in Emacs 29, and used only in a couple of places, I don't understand why you are saying that it's "a pattern that's used in many other places". How could that be true? Is there perhaps a misunderstanding here? What are the specific practical problems you encountered with this new feature? Your original report said: > For context, I was looking for a way to get a list of marked files, or > nil if no files are explicitly marked. The docstring for > dired-get-marked-files does not admit such a usage, but it actually is > possible, as described above. This is explicitly possible using this new value. So I'm not sure what other issues did you have in this regard. In any case, I've updated (on the emacs-30 release branch) the doc strings of the relevant functions with the effect of the special value 'marked'. I think this is all we need to do in this bug. 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The new special value of 'marked' > was introduced in support of the new user option > dired-mouse-drag-files, which needs to distinguish between the two > cases. Since the special value 'marked' is new in Emacs 29, and used > only in a couple of places, I don't understand why you are saying that > it's "a pattern that's used in many other places". How could that be > true? The pattern I mentioned is that of a function modifying its behavior if it receives a "special distinguished value" for an argument; for example, an argument that is usually an integer may also be some special symbol value. Look, long story short, when the first response said the report was "not a doc bug," I interpreted that to mean that the current docstring is correct, and dired-map-over-marks is not meant to do anything special if given the symbol "marked" for ARG, since the docstring doesn't mention it. The second response still seemed somewhat ambiguous to me, since it offered a function my-marked-files-list that I could use instead of dired-get-marked-files. Why would I want or need that, if the functionality of dired-get-marked-files weren't going to change? In any case, I've updated (on the emacs-30 release branch) the doc > strings of the relevant functions with the effect of the special value > 'marked'. I think this is all we need to do in this bug. > Yes! Thank you! That is exactly what I wanted and expected to happen when I filed my bug. --00000000000018386d063a6279e7 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Sat, Jul 19, 2025 at 3:06=E2=80=AFAM E= li Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote= :
The previous behavior wasn't a bug.=C2= =A0 The new special value of 'marked'
was introduced in support of the new user option
dired-mouse-drag-files, which needs to distinguish between the two
cases.=C2=A0 Since the special value 'marked' is new in Emacs 29, a= nd used
only in a couple of places, I don't understand why you are saying that<= br> it's "a pattern that's used in many other places".=C2=A0 = How could that be
true?

The pattern I mentioned is that of a = function modifying its behavior
if it receives a "special di= stinguished value" for an argument; for
example, an argument= that is usually an integer may also be some
special symbol value= .

Look, long story short, when the first response = said the report was
"not a doc bug," I interpreted that= to mean that the current docstring
is correct, and dired-map-ove= r-marks is not meant to do anything
special if given the symbol &= quot;marked" for ARG, since the docstring
doesn't mentio= n it.=C2=A0 The second response still seemed somewhat
ambiguous t= o me, since it offered a function=C2=A0my-marked-files-list
that = I could use instead of dired-get-marked-files.=C2=A0 Why would I
= want or need that, if the functionality of dired-get-marked-files
weren't going to change?

In any case, I've updated (on the emacs-30 rel= ease branch) the doc
strings of the relevant functions with the effect of the special value
'marked'.=C2=A0 I think this is all we need to do in this bug.
<= /blockquote>

Yes!=C2=A0 Thank you!=C2=A0 That is exactly= what I wanted and expected to
happen when I filed my bug.
<= div>
--00000000000018386d063a6279e7-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jul 21 07:10:30 2025 Received: (at 79042) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Jul 2025 11:10:30 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55806 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1udoPd-00043D-76 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 21 Jul 2025 07:10:30 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:50976) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1udoPa-00042f-8T for 79042@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 21 Jul 2025 07:10:26 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1udoPU-00068n-Fe; Mon, 21 Jul 2025 07:10:20 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=GvguNM3HOLyPsyp8oH1kckWZ6taul29EmkbTN+uVyI4=; b=pq9xIAiDOcuq5lsIC39H xgP+tWwWVBWE3WovAFv6KZU5QVjiI/ex/rk4Ml8hVrZGMtBTpxSZOtKYfWNjh5i551RHoXuYPaOin eDmLbLIcubdxXpQuagv1qrVU2zRpaogNy6bj9MEIMbVUIuT088OeCb4h+RcDf2r5M7/qXA6SIWNkx hpkPUG/HAOsQtQQr1ARxLmesgjvl2ZHHXYM7FSLD6dTeV9rI3T5sjqfFNuhID7r03k7kvIwCXt55/ NPBDlUIIa76mWOXejAYIXA8LhykQbrUgj3/CEU+Y7PdMrMVnqTA7GZvRIOU2fiA/eRNmqAOrNFZGg xknyF8IwOKRllQ==; Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2025 14:10:17 +0300 Message-Id: <868qkhdckm.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Sean McAfee In-Reply-To: (message from Sean McAfee on Sun, 20 Jul 2025 13:47:41 -0700) Subject: Re: bug#79042: 29.4; dired-get-marked-files docstring is incorrect References: <86bjpgebpv.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 79042 Cc: 79042@debbugs.gnu.org, drew.adams@oracle.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Sean McAfee > Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2025 13:47:41 -0700 > Cc: drew.adams@oracle.com, 79042@debbugs.gnu.org > > On Sat, Jul 19, 2025 at 3:06 AM Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > The previous behavior wasn't a bug. The new special value of 'marked' > was introduced in support of the new user option > dired-mouse-drag-files, which needs to distinguish between the two > cases. Since the special value 'marked' is new in Emacs 29, and used > only in a couple of places, I don't understand why you are saying that > it's "a pattern that's used in many other places". How could that be > true? > > The pattern I mentioned is that of a function modifying its behavior > if it receives a "special distinguished value" for an argument; for > example, an argument that is usually an integer may also be some > special symbol value. > > Look, long story short, when the first response said the report was > "not a doc bug," I interpreted that to mean that the current docstring > is correct, and dired-map-over-marks is not meant to do anything > special if given the symbol "marked" for ARG, since the docstring > doesn't mention it. The second response still seemed somewhat > ambiguous to me, since it offered a function my-marked-files-list > that I could use instead of dired-get-marked-files. Why would I > want or need that, if the functionality of dired-get-marked-files > weren't going to change? I'm sorry about the confusion. I understood that Drew was trying to help you by showing a variant of an existing function which could maybe solve a different use case. > In any case, I've updated (on the emacs-30 release branch) the doc > strings of the relevant functions with the effect of the special value > 'marked'. I think this is all we need to do in this bug. > > Yes! Thank you! That is exactly what I wanted and expected to > happen when I filed my bug. OK, so I guess we can now close this bug? 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OK, so I guess we can now close this bug?<= br>

Sounds good to me!
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--00000000000042d42f063a76b7db-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Jul 22 08:46:40 2025 Received: (at 79042-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Jul 2025 12:46:40 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36189 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ueCOF-0005VC-U9 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 22 Jul 2025 08:46:40 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:55092) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ueCOC-0005Ug-MV for 79042-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 22 Jul 2025 08:46:37 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ueCO5-00079M-6m; Tue, 22 Jul 2025 08:46:29 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=RHpeTvPg9cw5JNv3RTonNlheVHt0fgfYSY84gUpIEgI=; b=XM2QG72Ut7xMOS3CjUrN YmmPyCqihSM04qTcqFwpUSO9KRrEzRuopq3kqMMiQhXBaToYpuiYDmjmjj+OeB2XecuPWrGRL3Euk 4IT/MM7vbOdK7nTCDvEMn/MdX1fL/SJrd/vjcjWCZ+zW1nUSOrGU8l3Jn0RQKZ6QILwvRVwhR9FV1 kZ7fY8Ugu6MVbGQAgdO5NBZwkGUbxKJJAJxju+QfHgccu5vTU5OpxvPRi0D8PhmnStufDCuzne2Cd kzqtiaYyE6PngrvFJmex0QRZRbVfy/D9KFwhQ88YhweTTzjdKqBC6zSQlIa90UNFhOXpSuTK1ozCE r+OsXmukosL3Vw==; Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2025 15:46:25 +0300 Message-Id: <86jz409yvy.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Sean McAfee In-Reply-To: (message from Sean McAfee on Mon, 21 Jul 2025 13:56:44 -0700) Subject: Re: bug#79042: 29.4; dired-get-marked-files docstring is incorrect References: <86bjpgebpv.fsf@gnu.org> <868qkhdckm.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 79042-done Cc: drew.adams@oracle.com, 79042-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Sean McAfee > Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2025 13:56:44 -0700 > Cc: drew.adams@oracle.com, 79042@debbugs.gnu.org > > On Mon, Jul 21, 2025 at 4:10 AM Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > OK, so I guess we can now close this bug? > > Sounds good to me! Thanks, done.