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[PATCH] Improve 'vtable' object handling, cache handling, messages

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Message #29 received at 79009 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Spencer Baugh <sbaugh <at> janestreet.com>
To: Stéphane Marks <shipmints <at> gmail.com>
Cc: Kristoffer Balintona <krisbalintona <at> gmail.com>,
 Joost Kremers <joostkremers <at> fastmail.fm>, 79009 <at> debbugs.gnu.org,
 Visuwesh <visuweshm <at> gmail.com>, Adam Porter <adam <at> alphapapa.net>,
 Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>, Augusto Stoffel <arstoffel <at> gmail.com>,
 ijqq <at> protonmail.com
Subject: Re: bug#79009: [PATCH] Improve 'vtable' object handling, cache
 handling, messages, [PATCH] Improve 'vtable' object handling, cache
 handling, messages
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2025 13:57:46 -0400

Stéphane Marks <shipmints <at> gmail.com> writes:

> On Tue, Jul 15, 2025 at 11:41 AM Visuwesh <visuweshm <at> gmail.com> wrote:
>
>  [செவ்வாய் ஜூலை 15, 2025] Stéphane Marks wrote:
>
>  > On Mon, Jul 14, 2025 at 3:54 PM Spencer Baugh <sbaugh <at> janestreet.com> wrote:
>  >
>  >> Stéphane Marks <shipmints <at> gmail.com> writes:
>  >> > On Sun, Jul 13, 2025 at 2:16 PM Stéphane Marks <shipmints <at> gmail.com>
>  >> wrote:
>  >> > I've updated the broader vtable update in the referenced 78843 bug to
>  >> check out if interested.
>  >> >
>  >> > I've removed support for the duplicate-object feature.  After careful
>  >> consideration, it was half baked and I think better for vtable
>  >> > programmers to handle their own objects.  I will be sure the
>  >> documentation stresses to avoid duplicate objects as vtable's design is
>  >> > predicated on unique objects (or race conditions ensue among duplicate
>  >> object references).
>  >>
>  >> Thank you, this was going to be my first bit of feedback.
>  >>
>  >> Folowup question: What is the motivation for adding customizable object
>  >> equality?  Could the need for that be avoided by some changes specific
>  >> to vtable-update-object?
>  >>
>  >
>  > It's really a policy question and future proofing.  I believe Lars
>  > originated this idea and probably has use cases for this in his vtable code.
>
>  This question came up in emacs-devel once before:
>  https://yhetil.org/emacs-devel/CANVbq5kjPpCKwMBSYfHHLMFXAX7vAgy+D=uLAwJoTGQ5cLSjFQ <at> mail.gmail.com
>
> What does the group have to say about Kristoffer's use case?  He's one of the people that's helped test the larger vtable.el
> changes and influenced some new features and some fixes beyond object-equal.

There's no actual concrete use case listed in that email.

And the example shown in that email can be handled straightforwardly:
simply search vtable-objects for the object using whatever equality
function you want, then do vtable-goto-object.  This is more efficient
anyway.

So this email does not provide any real motivation for object-equal.

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