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When I try to bring it back with speedbar-window I get the error message (in messages): "funcall-interactively: Attempt to delete the sole visible or iconified frame" I think there sould be a way to bring back that "invisible frame". --000000000000483f8b06383b742a Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
When I open a speedbar-window and right-click with th= e mouse on the status-bar, the speed-bar disappears.

When I try to bring it back with speedbar-window I get the error=C2=A0me= ssage (in messages): "funcall-interactively: Attempt to delete the sol= e visible or iconified frame"

I think there s= ould be a way to bring back that "invisible frame".
--000000000000483f8b06383b742a-- From unknown Fri Sep 19 04:01:16 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#78871: 31.0.50 Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2025 11:51:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 78871 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Johann =?UTF-8?Q?H=C3=B6chtl?= Cc: 78871@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 78871-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B78871.175067941124577 (code B ref 78871); Mon, 23 Jun 2025 11:51:03 +0000 Received: (at 78871) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Jun 2025 11:50:11 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54776 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1uTfgf-0006O6-MC for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 23 Jun 2025 07:50:10 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:32976) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1uTfgb-0006MZ-7i for 78871@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 23 Jun 2025 07:50:06 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1uTfgU-0004hU-It; Mon, 23 Jun 2025 07:49:59 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=OqoyDY5BBRg26pSRKp+ZXqgChZDqQYCIJ32UIfeNpvY=; b=pJ2225Ufg7yBtfkzXCKB Q2rCpSyQ+xZ8g4VpfpnUuPQfg1pu2EgnRSkOc2kXz2Fa4CoRMxdLZ+Qc9elAAfnwHEYgzfZn/Bo0n d7YeDly3ssQm1R/p1BAwbXm8lwqH2uUOWQWqPpdxhokCQNGvyY21CLsA1+l8HnYxggojkchBWIkmt iRC3ieLdAyAiVO0aYWzcGjYF40WgZqNxdjeyh6cGTHT+Q+d/x6hNd1tL/8WxfMgTgwEbgYJVlr8PF d1F0xAa5SGnZP8D6apblI4cwRQCX9POn8/8/UsDLPzUv+49+7XGaPG8D6M6XM12CWTQmSBXOTxvg9 RcxlSsapyhnvJw==; Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2025 14:49:55 +0300 Message-Id: <86bjqefzj0.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: (message from Johann =?UTF-8?Q?H=C3=B6chtl?= on Mon, 23 Jun 2025 13:24:14 +0200) References: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Johann Höchtl > Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2025 13:24:14 +0200 > > When I open a speedbar-window and right-click with the mouse on the status-bar, the speed-bar > disappears. What do you mean by "status bar" here? I tried right-clicking on various portions of the Speedbar frame, but couldn't cause it to "disappear". > When I try to bring it back with speedbar-window I get the error message (in messages): > "funcall-interactively: Attempt to delete the sole visible or iconified frame" Doesn't happen here, either. > I think there sould be a way to bring back that "invisible frame". It would be good to understand first what kind of "invisible frame" we are talking about. Can you post a complete recipe starting from "emacs -Q"? Thanks. 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Can you post a complete recipe starting from "emacs -Q"? Sure: emacs -Q M-x speedbar-window Use the mouse and move over to the generated speedbar-window, move over anywhere the part where "# Files " (isn't that the status bar) is written and press right mouse button Effect: Speedbar Window disappears. Any subsequent attempt to bring the speedbar (M-x speedbar) of the Windows (M-x speedbar-window) back results in the error message "Attempt to delete the sole visible or iconified frame" This error message also appears when you focus into the speedbar-window and press "Q" (which calls delete-frame). This might be the actual problem as a speedbar-window is no longer a frame on it's own but embedded into an existing frame and the last visible frame must no be deleted with delete-frame. Am Mo., 23. Juni 2025 um 13:50 Uhr schrieb Eli Zaretskii : > > From: Johann H=C3=B6chtl > > Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2025 13:24:14 +0200 > > > > When I open a speedbar-window and right-click with the mouse on the > status-bar, the speed-bar > > disappears. > > What do you mean by "status bar" here? I tried right-clicking on > various portions of the Speedbar frame, but couldn't cause it to > "disappear". > > > When I try to bring it back with speedbar-window I get the error messag= e > (in messages): > > "funcall-interactively: Attempt to delete the sole visible or iconified > frame" > > Doesn't happen here, either. > > > I think there sould be a way to bring back that "invisible frame". > > It would be good to understand first what kind of "invisible frame" we > are talking about. Can you post a complete recipe starting from > "emacs -Q"? > > Thanks. > --0000000000000e28f606383c0f3b Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
>=20 It would be good to understand first what kind of "invisible frame&quo= t; we
are talking about.=C2=A0 Can you post a complete recipe starting from
"emacs -Q"?

Sure:

emacs -Q
M-x speedbar-window
Use the mouse and = move over to the generated speedbar-window, move over anywhere the part whe= re "# Files " (isn't that the status bar) is written and pres= s right mouse button
Effect: Speedbar Window disappears.
Any subsequent attempt to bring the speedbar (M-x speedbar) of the W= indows (M-x speedbar-window) back results in the error message "Attemp= t to delete the sole visible or iconified frame"

<= div>
This error message also appears when you focus into the = speedbar-window and press "Q" (which calls delete-frame).

This might be the actual problem as a speedbar-windo= w is no longer a frame on it's own but embedded into an existing frame = and the last visible frame must no be deleted with delete-frame.
<= /div>
Am Mo., 23. Juni 2025 um 13:50=C2=A0Uhr schrieb Eli Za= retskii <eliz@gnu.org>:
=
> From: Johann H=C3=B6= chtl <joha= nn.hoechtl@gmail.com>
> Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2025 13:24:14 +0200
>
> When I open a speedbar-window and right-click with the mouse on the st= atus-bar, the speed-bar
> disappears.

What do you mean by "status bar" here?=C2=A0 I tried right-clicki= ng on
various portions of the Speedbar frame, but couldn't cause it to
"disappear".

> When I try to bring it back with speedbar-window I get the error messa= ge (in messages):
> "funcall-interactively: Attempt to delete the sole visible or ico= nified frame"

Doesn't happen here, either.

> I think there sould be a way to bring back that "invisible frame&= quot;.

It would be good to understand first what kind of "invisible frame&quo= t; we
are talking about.=C2=A0 Can you post a complete recipe starting from
"emacs -Q"?

Thanks.
--0000000000000e28f606383c0f3b-- From unknown Fri Sep 19 04:01:16 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#78871: 31.0.50 Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2025 14:00:04 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 78871 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Johann =?UTF-8?Q?H=C3=B6chtl?= Cc: 78871@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 78871-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B78871.17506871844002 (code B ref 78871); Mon, 23 Jun 2025 14:00:04 +0000 Received: (at 78871) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Jun 2025 13:59:44 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56366 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1uThi1-00012K-Fn for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 23 Jun 2025 09:59:43 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:37106) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1uThhv-00010n-Qr for 78871@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 23 Jun 2025 09:59:38 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1uThhp-0007NR-CH; Mon, 23 Jun 2025 09:59:29 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=BHtLjjmgwcj+30TJmAIrfwEddRVD1Sl0LnkDimjVJRU=; b=D9aOkmRpGLIWfJbCj6na wLjx7qvVvqLMo10SMpgz+9cLABuaKXgvHJD11mRyF5RkJUErXDiOQVzkFhqsHZX2arPwWyrC1W9Bn bT5C1dl0TVuR55WDHhf0Aj6D3M5dR6lDFH+Bglm6A+1XGWxjvYBt5FlxSiy/r+pD5PnLi6IDUTvXc uQAsg71q+fjcHS0LljPjG38lhqzbbySnQdWO1E3vVdxdWnHFoM2m/bK35+5Bi1VSMf4D45mVdUs/L teWqApJSxF71NmV3KJ64NrcR+LXDKrVxkAK9qWbcYMUsHQFxt7U1yfos3C7OeS7/qfehVLzM2alBj 952xd6EVMHERBA==; Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2025 16:59:24 +0300 Message-Id: <86a55yftj7.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: (message from Johann =?UTF-8?Q?H=C3=B6chtl?= on Mon, 23 Jun 2025 14:07:31 +0200) References: <86bjqefzj0.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Johann Höchtl > Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2025 14:07:31 +0200 > Cc: 78871@debbugs.gnu.org > > > It would be good to understand first what kind of "invisible frame" we > are talking about. Can you post a complete recipe starting from > "emacs -Q"? > > Sure: > > emacs -Q > M-x speedbar-window > Use the mouse and move over to the generated speedbar-window, move over anywhere the part where "# > Files " (isn't that the status bar) is written and press right mouse button > Effect: Speedbar Window disappears. > Any subsequent attempt to bring the speedbar (M-x speedbar) of the Windows (M-x speedbar-window) back > results in the error message "Attempt to delete the sole visible or iconified frame" Ah, okay. This happens because mouse-3 on the mode line of the speedbar window just deletes the speedbar window. It should instead call speedbar-window--close. Patches welcome. As a workaround, you can manually set the variable speedbar-frame to nil: M-: (setq speedbar-frame nil) RET Then "M-x speedbar-window" will work again. > This error message also appears when you focus into the speedbar-window and press "Q" (which calls > delete-frame). This is not a bug, since there is only one frame, and Emacs doesn't allow to delete such a frame. 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Q is from a time when there was just one speedbar-frame. > --000000000000c99ae1063852d984 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable



> This error message also appears when you focus into the speedbar-windo= w and press "Q" (which calls
> delete-frame).

This is not a bug, since there is only one frame, and Emacs doesn't
allow to delete such a frame.

So if I open Emacs, C-x 5 2 to create a new Fr= ame, M-x speedbar-window and therein press Q I would not assume to close th= is the whole frame.

Q is= from a time when there was just one speedbar-frame.
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