From unknown Wed Jun 18 22:58:09 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#78720 <78720@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#78720 <78720@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: 31.0.50; Faces menu is unexpectedly not available as documented Reply-To: bug#78720 <78720@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2025 05:58:09 +0000 retitle 78720 31.0.50; Faces menu is unexpectedly not available as document= ed reassign 78720 emacs submitter 78720 Markus Triska severity 78720 normal thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Jun 08 09:40:11 2025 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Jun 2025 13:40:11 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50989 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1uOGFv-0001Fc-3i for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 08 Jun 2025 09:40:11 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:470:142::17]:50584) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1uOGFr-00019x-G4 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 08 Jun 2025 09:40:10 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1uOGFl-0008L8-JN for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 08 Jun 2025 09:40:01 -0400 Received: from [78.47.144.35] (helo=metalevel.at) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1uOGFj-0005jw-S4 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 08 Jun 2025 09:40:01 -0400 Received: from mt-VivoBook (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by metalevel.at (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A7A9B9C77E for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2025 15:32:30 +0200 (CEST) Received: by mt-VivoBook (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 0346480A2E; Sun, 8 Jun 2025 15:32:29 +0200 (CEST) From: Markus Triska To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 31.0.50; Faces menu is unexpectedly not available as documented X-Debbugs-Cc: Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2025 15:32:27 +0200 Message-ID: <87bjqyqrys.fsf@metalevel.at> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Host-Lookup-Failed: Reverse DNS lookup failed for 78.47.144.35 (failed) Received-SPF: none client-ip=78.47.144.35; envelope-from=triska@metalevel.at; helo=metalevel.at X-Spam_score_int: -10 X-Spam_score: -1.1 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_RPBL_BLOCKED=0.001, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_SAFE_BLOCKED=0.001, RDNS_NONE=0.793, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) To reproduce this issue, please start Emacs with: $ emacs -Q --eval '(setq font-lock-defaults nil)' >From the documentation of font-lock-defaults, my expectation is that I can then use the "Faces" menu (under "Edit" and then "Text Properties" in the menu bar) to assign faces explicitly to text in the buffer: -- Variable: font-lock-defaults ... If its value is =E2=80=98nil=E2=80=99, ... you can use the =E2= =80=98Faces=E2=80=99 menu (under =E2=80=98Edit=E2=80=99 and then =E2=80=98Text Properties=E2= =80=99 in the menu bar) to assign faces explicitly to text in the buffer. However, under "Edit", a "Faces" menu is unexpectedly not available. Can you reproduce this issue? Thank you and all the best, Markus In GNU Emacs 31.0.50 (build 6, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, X toolkit, Xaw scroll bars) of 2025-03-23 built on mt-laptop Repository revision: 7d14e35498209e45290f5c1297ded6d7175bf1ea Repository branch: master Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.12302000 System Description: Ubuntu 23.10 Configured using: 'configure --with-x-toolkit=3Dlucid --with-xpm=3Difavailable --with-gif=3Difavailable --with-tiff=3Difavailable --with-gnutls=3Difavailable --enable-checking=3Dyes,glyphs --enable-check-lisp-object-type 'CFLAGS=3D-O0 -g3'' Configured features: FREETYPE GMP JPEG LIBXML2 MODULES NOTIFY INOTIFY PDUMPER PNG SECCOMP SOUND THREADS TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS X11 XDBE XFT XIM XPM LUCID ZLIB From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Jun 08 11:46:49 2025 Received: (at 78720-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Jun 2025 15:46:50 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52640 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1uOIET-0002VZ-JA for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 08 Jun 2025 11:46:49 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:54312) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1uOIER-0002VF-7I for 78720-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 08 Jun 2025 11:46:47 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1uOIEK-0004qo-L3; Sun, 08 Jun 2025 11:46:41 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=WWhkyF9IbLHDudm4Jgkzvn4lcSBDtGX0uEAzwIUm9hQ=; b=SLViE9SF5Y5SZe9L/Yol W5MvOSxfzJGV1w6ErPSXACoT3svl6b4/CQX67O17MMttqKk+DAE3cAG37QAao/+NeFAOX3kx54HnN RvJbe74//6og3UgEQJhblCnIqI6kaU+hUqDIrYuJRU+VuDEJQwmta+n76iWvdxqfWEplmgUdmHBvA 1BMqE7TLF0xkHhE0JaMvWFv7nOtntn6vKk6QDd1A+S2lGNmVp8ZhTDDWlVsfsIoxdYqy5boam1yx0 dasHcqrhwMgYzRTHv4jpKGa282wR5KouzR5Eos2t00rv0CjzWdKlCV4DKbCbUPJCtEuCS5F4Cx03Z ALDrolhAmm0csg==; Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2025 18:46:36 +0300 Message-Id: <861prugrs3.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Markus Triska In-Reply-To: <87bjqyqrys.fsf@metalevel.at> (message from Markus Triska on Sun, 08 Jun 2025 15:32:27 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#78720: 31.0.50; Faces menu is unexpectedly not available as documented References: <87bjqyqrys.fsf@metalevel.at> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 78720-done Cc: 78720-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Markus Triska > Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2025 15:32:27 +0200 > > > To reproduce this issue, please start Emacs with: > > $ emacs -Q --eval '(setq font-lock-defaults nil)' > > >From the documentation of font-lock-defaults, my expectation is that I > can then use the "Faces" menu (under "Edit" and then "Text Properties" > in the menu bar) to assign faces explicitly to text in the buffer: > > -- Variable: font-lock-defaults > ... If its value is ‘nil’, ... you can use the ‘Faces’ menu > (under ‘Edit’ and then ‘Text Properties’ in the menu bar) to > assign faces explicitly to text in the buffer. > > However, under "Edit", a "Faces" menu is unexpectedly not available. The "Face" menu was removed in Emacs 28, so I've deleted that sentence from the manual. See NEWS.28 (search for "facemenu") about the change, which includes how to get the old behavior back, if you want it. I'm closing this bug with this message.