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envelope-from=drew.adams@oracle.com; helo=mx0a-00069f02.pphosted.com X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H5=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_RPBL_BLOCKED=0.001, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_SAFE_BLOCKED=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) The doc string says only this about the handler args: Handlers are called with argument list (DESKTOP-BUFFER-FILE-NAME DESKTOP-BUFFER-NAME DESKTOP-BUFFER-MISC) It should say something about each of those args, in particular, it's not easy to guess what DESKTOP-BUFFER-MISC is. In GNU Emacs 30.1 (build 2, x86_64-w64-mingw32) of 2025-02-23 built on AVALON Windowing system distributor 'Microsoft Corp.', version 10.0.26100 System Description: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro (v10.0.2009.26100.4061) Configured using: 'configure --with-modules --without-dbus --with-native-compilation=3Daot --without-compress-install --with-tree-sitter CFLAGS=3D-O2 prefix=3D/g/rel/install/emacs-30.1' Configured features: ACL GIF GMP GNUTLS HARFBUZZ JPEG LCMS2 LIBXML2 MODULES NATIVE_COMP NOTIFY W32NOTIFY PDUMPER PNG RSVG SOUND SQLITE3 THREADS TIFF TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS TREE_SITTER WEBP XPM ZLIB (NATIVE_COMP present but libgccjit not available) From unknown Sun Jun 15 08:47:14 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#78713: 30.1; Doc of `desktop-restore-mode-handlers' Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2025 06:42:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 78713 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Drew Adams , Juanma Barranquero Cc: 78713@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 78713-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B78713.174927848931281 (code B ref 78713); Sat, 07 Jun 2025 06:42:02 +0000 Received: (at 78713) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Jun 2025 06:41:29 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46545 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1uNnFA-00088S-K0 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 07 Jun 2025 02:41:28 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:35782) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1uNnF8-00088D-DP for 78713@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 07 Jun 2025 02:41:27 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1uNnEz-000269-UP; Sat, 07 Jun 2025 02:41:18 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=QCQvVEa6TH8dmvLzjV2qfubX3jp0rvct6dXK29eAB5Y=; b=U/mFGNL3n2km Xb7Iym/pKq/dMSZlVDyTeXVdpXnnq66BXu6KtsXu4tS7tkzTzaYkolZlLatD4pt53/y+tZuFvSv0k 0aMk/3P0U2B2RbZ8fTHMvAH8uCo9wsSe1k8DxxHW8zk1/VptZw4eLCs+Yk3NICukGDK8MgBXjxV5p ebXOdZ15OaObQb+sZrLH6AgNbL+vxze0q+XMtIb9Yg3MRc7OGEEqZlCtOwRwKvIOeGFFO2FK62MLY dd52zut7aH7+ASdRqW28uY23WrqEczk/6Ecj3YdHwj8/HKvGXlwnJWDh2tMdh8x1mt52OrZ9z00z/ 0im9Wk2sVxKjF27ozJkrgQ==; Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2025 09:41:11 +0300 Message-Id: <8634cckq9k.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: (bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org) References: X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2025 21:08:44 +0000 > From: Drew Adams via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, > the Swiss army knife of text editors" > > The doc string says only this about the handler args: > > Handlers are called with argument list > > (DESKTOP-BUFFER-FILE-NAME DESKTOP-BUFFER-NAME DESKTOP-BUFFER-MISC) > > It should say something about each of those args, in particular, it's > not easy to guess what DESKTOP-BUFFER-MISC is. I think DESKTOP-BUFFER-MISC is not used nowadays (i.e. always nil). It seems to be a backward compatibility shim or something. But to properly document this we need a desktop.el expert. I CC Juanma in the hope that he could find some time to help us out here. 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I'm sorry I won't be of much help. Not because of lack of time, but because I've not used Emacs for a few years now and it's now all kind of nebulous. That said, I don't think I was ever an expert in that particular bit, which I suspect will fall more closely in Stefan's ballpark, likely. On Sat, Jun 7, 2025 at 8:41=E2=80=AFAM Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2025 21:08:44 +0000 > > From: Drew Adams via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, > > the Swiss army knife of text editors" > > > > The doc string says only this about the handler args: > > > > Handlers are called with argument list > > > > (DESKTOP-BUFFER-FILE-NAME DESKTOP-BUFFER-NAME DESKTOP-BUFFER-MISC) > > > > It should say something about each of those args, in particular, it's > > not easy to guess what DESKTOP-BUFFER-MISC is. > > I think DESKTOP-BUFFER-MISC is not used nowadays (i.e. always nil). > It seems to be a backward compatibility shim or something. > > But to properly document this we need a desktop.el expert. I CC > Juanma in the hope that he could find some time to help us out here. > --000000000000f4bce80636fc3f87 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi.

I'm sorry I won't be of much help. Not because= of lack of time, but because I've not used Emacs for a few years now a= nd it's now=C2=A0all kind of nebulous.

That said, I don't th= ink I was ever an expert in that particular bit, which=C2=A0I suspect will = fall more closely in Stefan's ballpark, likely.

On Sat, Jun 7, 2025 at 8:41=E2=80=AFAM Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:
> Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2025 21:08:44 +0000
> From:=C2=A0 Drew Adams via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs,
>=C2=A0 the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
>
> The doc string says only this about the handler args:
>
> Handlers are called with argument list
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 (DESKTOP-BUFFER-FILE-NAME DESKTOP-BUFFER-NAME DESKTOP-BUF= FER-MISC)
>
> It should say something about each of those args, in particular, it= 9;s
> not easy to guess what DESKTOP-BUFFER-MISC is.

I think DESKTOP-BUFFER-MISC is not used nowadays (i.e. always nil).
It seems to be a backward compatibility shim or something.

But to properly document this we need a desktop.el expert.=C2=A0 I CC
Juanma in the hope that he could find some time to help us out here.
--000000000000f4bce80636fc3f87-- From unknown Sun Jun 15 08:47:14 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#78713: 30.1; Doc of `desktop-restore-mode-handlers' Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2025 15:47:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 78713 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Juanma Barranquero , Stefan Monnier Cc: drew.adams@oracle.com, 78713@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 78713-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B78713.174931118822530 (code B ref 78713); Sat, 07 Jun 2025 15:47:03 +0000 Received: (at 78713) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Jun 2025 15:46:28 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49348 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1uNvka-0005rK-DT for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 07 Jun 2025 11:46:28 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:57184) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1uNvkY-0005r2-Kb for 78713@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 07 Jun 2025 11:46:27 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1uNvkS-0007ZX-GS; Sat, 07 Jun 2025 11:46:20 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=JpfXzgkrliM3CTqkd+xkY6U/EwLjLLhUxpxgiX4sTlo=; b=DfE8BSRYaHEy hTfdOiHN9CgdmVH3Wrm83xj1kSOnGhT3DfP7hpiiyj/xZKLFtAQ6t5efskpLonmh4Qbb6KopzAq2/ oH9QTXgzjPMmfizNpC26RRUqHcemlYPChXo5DZTHTmo8wJMGl4zlBwUsiMrFuSiAifHyADD+YAYW5 xlCKbHh1hgQEctYvofJZRE+rzkSBLvlny1u+Nc3MDI1MTMausMsJnoT5/KWm4N2fjpl85v0QgLmNE NSwjSvqDd2Na79Rlr2cznHW+WMOzpw7LKeYogMjRncDHQ0E6DmvGPvdvjTT+T8l5sQRAGnav6k4uR 6Je/9FbCwJkVVQR6QIMsaA==; Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2025 18:46:18 +0300 Message-Id: <86sekbh7w5.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: (message from Juanma Barranquero on Sat, 7 Jun 2025 16:34:16 +0200) References: <8634cckq9k.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Juanma Barranquero > Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2025 16:34:16 +0200 > Cc: Drew Adams , 78713@debbugs.gnu.org > > I'm sorry I won't be of much help. Not because of lack of time, but because I've not used Emacs for a few > years now and it's now all kind of nebulous. Thanks for responding, anyway. > That said, I don't think I was ever an expert in that particular bit, which I suspect will fall more closely in > Stefan's ballpark, likely. Stefan, any suggestions?