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([2601:447:c580:e8e0:1cf8:ebcb:a429:bcc7]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id d75a77b69052e-4a4358e4deasm49703391cf.45.2025.06.01.16.34.46 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 01 Jun 2025 16:34:46 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------FJnjYe5IlaWgQwokCjIBpOcG" Message-ID: <0ff49cfb-3682-4c70-954d-1d99eda00ad2@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2025 18:34:45 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Content-Language: en-US To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org From: Rick Subject: 31.0.50; recentf-open-files reports opening the last file accessed Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::830; envelope-from=rbielaws@gmail.com; helo=mail-qt1-x830.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------FJnjYe5IlaWgQwokCjIBpOcG Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit --text follows this line-- You can recreate most of the problem starting with -Q however you must have a previously populated recentf file before starting. M-x recentf-mode M-x recentf-open-files Now switch to the *Messagers* buffer and notice something similar to:     Loading /home/rick/.emacs.d/recentf...done     Cleaning up the recentf list...done (0 removed)     Mark set     Open /snap/emacs/2827/usr/share/emacs/31.0.50/lisp/files.el.gz Observe that it claims to have opened the most recent item on recentf-list, as loaded from the pre-populated recentf file.  In my case .../files.el.gz. There doesn't seem to be a buffer actually associated with the file but it's unclear whether it was subsequently closed or a spurious message. Personally, because my .emacs contains the following and I run in server mode I get additional messages that may be helpful. |... '(recentf-auto-cleanup 'never) '(recentf-max-menu-items 40) '(recentf-max-saved-items 200) '(recentf-menu-filter 'recentf-arrange-by-mode) '(recentf-menu-open-all-flag t) '(recentf-mode t) '(recentf-show-file-shortcuts-flag nil) | ... |(setq initial-buffer-choice 'recentf-open-files)| With the above (some of which could be irrelevant but I didn't narrow down) I get the following.  Notice that it reports opening the file 3 times.  It also contains "Collapse node" messages which I see no reference to in either recentf.el or wid-edit.el (its only dependency?).  So I can't tell what is emitting them but it's clearly related and may tell you more than it does me:-) |Starting Emacs daemon. Collapse node Open ~/snap/emacs/site-lisp/anchored-transpose.el Collapse node Open ~/snap/emacs/site-lisp/anchored-transpose.el [2 times] When done with this frame, type C-x 5 0 Mark set Collapse node| I tried (debug-on-entry recentf-open-files) and the messages get created if I simply type 'c' at the debug prompt.  But when I try stepping thru the code I get to the end and I'm presented with a proper menu buffer without ever encountering any code that might have emitted the messages - AND the messages DO NOT appear. This left me out of my depth.  Otherwise I'd have tried to debug and at least report which functions were involved if not a solution proposal. In GNU Emacs 31.0.50 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version  3.24.41, cairo version 1.18.0) of 2025-05-25 built on lcy02-amd64-118 Repository revision: 10e023c15c03ca32d3c9b1ad54111ef4ede6de73 Repository branch: master System Description: Ubuntu 24.04.2 LTS Configured using:  'configure --prefix=/snap/emacs/current/usr --with-x-toolkit=gtk3  --without-xaw3d --with-modules --with-cairo  --with-native-compilation=aot --with-pgtk --with-xinput2  --with-tree-sitter 'CFLAGS=-isystem  /build/emacs/parts/emacs/install/usr/include -isystem  /build/emacs/parts/emacs/install/usr/include/x86_64-linux-gnu -isystem  /build/emacs/stage/usr/include -O2' 'CPPFLAGS=-isystem  /build/emacs/parts/emacs/install/usr/include -isystem  /build/emacs/parts/emacs/install/usr/include/x86_64-linux-gnu -isystem  /build/emacs/stage/usr/include'  'LDFLAGS=-L/build/emacs/parts/emacs/install/lib  -L/build/emacs/parts/emacs/install/usr/lib  -L/build/emacs/parts/emacs/install/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu  -L/build/emacs/parts/emacs/install/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu  -L/build/emacs/stage/usr/lib'' Configured features: ACL CAIRO DBUS FREETYPE GIF GLIB GMP GNUTLS GPM GSETTINGS HARFBUZZ JPEG LCMS2 LIBOTF LIBSELINUX LIBSYSTEMD LIBXML2 MODULES NATIVE_COMP NOTIFY INOTIFY PDUMPER PGTK PNG RSVG SECCOMP SOUND SQLITE3 THREADS TIFF TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS TREE_SITTER WEBP XIM GTK3 ZLIB Important settings:   value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8   value of $XMODIFIERS: @im=ibus   locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix Major mode: Messages Minor modes in effect:   recentf-mode: t   tooltip-mode: t   global-eldoc-mode: t   eldoc-mode: t   show-paren-mode: t   electric-indent-mode: t   mouse-wheel-mode: t   tool-bar-mode: t   menu-bar-mode: t   file-name-shadow-mode: t   global-font-lock-mode: t   font-lock-mode: t   blink-cursor-mode: t   minibuffer-regexp-mode: t   buffer-read-only: t   line-number-mode: t   indent-tabs-mode: t   transient-mark-mode: t   auto-composition-mode: t   auto-encryption-mode: t   auto-compression-mode: t Load-path shadows: None found. Features: (shadow sort mail-extr emacsbug lisp-mnt message mailcap yank-media puny dired dired-loaddefs rfc822 mml mml-sec password-cache epa derived epg rfc6068 epg-config gnus-util mm-decode mm-bodies mm-encode mail-parse rfc2231 mailabbrev gmm-utils mailheader sendmail rfc2047 rfc2045 ietf-drums mm-util mail-prsvr mail-utils cus-start cus-load recentf tree-widget wid-edit time-date compile text-property-search comint subr-x ansi-osc ansi-color ring comp-run bytecomp byte-compile comp-common rx warnings icons cl-loaddefs cl-lib rmc iso-transl tooltip cconv eldoc paren electric uniquify ediff-hook vc-hooks lisp-float-type elisp-mode mwheel term/pgtk-win pgtk-win term/common-win touch-screen pgtk-dnd tool-bar dnd fontset image regexp-opt fringe tabulated-list replace newcomment text-mode lisp-mode prog-mode register page tab-bar menu-bar rfn-eshadow isearch easymenu timer select scroll-bar mouse jit-lock font-lock syntax font-core term/tty-colors frame minibuffer nadvice seq simple cl-generic indonesian philippine cham georgian utf-8-lang misc-lang vietnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao korean japanese eucjp-ms cp51932 hebrew greek romanian slovak czech european ethiopic indian cyrillic chinese composite emoji-zwj charscript charprop case-table epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook help abbrev obarray oclosure cl-preloaded button loaddefs theme-loaddefs faces cus-face macroexp files window text-properties overlay sha1 md5 base64 format env code-pages mule custom widget keymap hashtable-print-readable backquote threads dbusbind inotify dynamic-setting system-font-setting font-render-setting cairo gtk pgtk lcms2 multi-tty move-toolbar make-network-process tty-child-frames native-compile emacs) Memory information: ((conses 16 88314 19791) (symbols 48 8421 0) (strings 32 20906 1600)  (string-bytes 1 716862) (vectors 16 12038)  (vector-slots 8 163474 8069) (floats 8 27 2) (intervals 56 460 0)  (buffers 1064 12)) --------------FJnjYe5IlaWgQwokCjIBpOcG Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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You can recreate most of the problem starting with -Q however you must
have a previously populated recentf file before starting.

M-x recentf-mode
M-x recentf-open-files

Now switch to the *Messagers* buffer and notice something similar to:

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Loading /home/=
rick/.emacs.d/recentf...done
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Cleaning up the recentf list...done (0 removed)
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Mark set
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Open /snap/emacs/2827/usr/share/emacs/31.0.50/lisp/fil=
es.el.gz

Observe that it claims to have opened the most recent item on recentf-list,
as loaded from the pre-populated recentf file.=C2=A0 In my case .../files.el.gz.

There doesn't seem to be a buffer actually associated with the file but
it's unclear whether it was subsequently closed or a spurious message.

Personally, because my .emacs contains the following and I run in server
mode I get additional messages that may be helpful.=C2=A0 

...

 '(recentf-auto-cleanup 'never)
 '(recentf-max-menu-items 40)
 '(recentf-max-saved-items 200)
 '(recentf-menu-filter 'recentf-arrange-by-mode)
 '(recentf-menu-open-all-flag t)
 '(recentf-mode t)
 '(recentf-show-file-shortcuts-flag nil)

=2E..

(setq initial=
-buffer-choice 'recentf-open-files)

With the above (some of which could be irrelevant but I didn't narrow down)
I get the following.=C2=A0 Notice that it reports opening the file = 3 times.=C2=A0 It also
contains "Collapse node" messages which I see no reference to in either
recentf.el or wid-edit.el (its only dependency?).=C2=A0 So I can't = tell what is emitting
them but it's clearly related and may tell you more than it does me:-)

Starting Emac=
s daemon.
Collapse node
Open ~/snap/emacs/site-lisp/anchored-transpose.el
Collapse node
Open ~/snap/emacs/site-lisp/anchored-transpose.el [2 times]
When done with this frame, type C-x 5 0
Mark set
Collapse node

I tried (debug-on-entry recentf-open-files) and the messages get
created if I simply type 'c' at the debug prompt.=C2=A0 But when I = try
stepping thru the code I get to the end and I'm presented with a proper menu buffer without ever encountering any code that might have emitted the messages - AND the messages DO NOT appear.

This left me out of my depth.=C2=A0 Otherwise I'd have tried to de= bug and
at least report which functions were involved if not a solution proposal.


In GNU Emacs 31.0.50 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version =C2=A03.24.41, cairo version 1.18.0) of 2025-05-25 built on lcy02-amd64-118
Repository revision: 10e023c15c03ca32d3c9b1ad54111ef4ede6de73
Repository branch: master
System Description: Ubuntu 24.04.2 LTS

Configured using:
=C2=A0'configure --prefix=3D/snap/emacs/current/usr --with-x-toolki= t=3Dgtk3
=C2=A0--without-xaw3d --with-modules --with-cairo
=C2=A0--with-native-compilation=3Daot --with-pgtk --with-xinput2 =C2=A0--with-tree-sitter 'CFLAGS=3D-isystem
=C2=A0/build/emacs/parts/emacs/install/usr/include -isystem
=C2=A0/build/emacs/parts/emacs/install/usr/include/x86_64-linux-gnu= -isystem
=C2=A0/build/emacs/stage/usr/include -O2' 'CPPFLAGS=3D-isystem
=C2=A0/build/emacs/parts/emacs/install/usr/include -isystem
=C2=A0/build/emacs/parts/emacs/install/usr/include/x86_64-linux-gnu= -isystem
=C2=A0/build/emacs/stage/usr/include'
=C2=A0'LDFLAGS=3D-L/build/emacs/parts/emacs/install/lib
=C2=A0-L/build/emacs/parts/emacs/install/usr/lib
=C2=A0-L/build/emacs/parts/emacs/install/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu
=C2=A0-L/build/emacs/parts/emacs/install/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu =C2=A0-L/build/emacs/stage/usr/lib''

Configured features:
ACL CAIRO DBUS FREETYPE GIF GLIB GMP GNUTLS GPM GSETTINGS HARFBUZZ JPEG
LCMS2 LIBOTF LIBSELINUX LIBSYSTEMD LIBXML2 MODULES NATIVE_COMP NOTIFY
INOTIFY PDUMPER PGTK PNG RSVG SECCOMP SOUND SQLITE3 THREADS TIFF TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS TREE_SITTER WEBP XIM GTK3 ZLIB

Important settings:
=C2=A0 value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8
=C2=A0 value of $XMODIFIERS: @im=3Dibus
=C2=A0 locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix

Major mode: Messages

Minor modes in effect:
=C2=A0 recentf-mode: t
=C2=A0 tooltip-mode: t
=C2=A0 global-eldoc-mode: t
=C2=A0 eldoc-mode: t
=C2=A0 show-paren-mode: t
=C2=A0 electric-indent-mode: t
=C2=A0 mouse-wheel-mode: t
=C2=A0 tool-bar-mode: t
=C2=A0 menu-bar-mode: t
=C2=A0 file-name-shadow-mode: t
=C2=A0 global-font-lock-mode: t
=C2=A0 font-lock-mode: t
=C2=A0 blink-cursor-mode: t
=C2=A0 minibuffer-regexp-mode: t
=C2=A0 buffer-read-only: t
=C2=A0 line-number-mode: t
=C2=A0 indent-tabs-mode: t
=C2=A0 transient-mark-mode: t
=C2=A0 auto-composition-mode: t
=C2=A0 auto-encryption-mode: t
=C2=A0 auto-compression-mode: t

Load-path shadows:
None found.

Features:
(shadow sort mail-extr emacsbug lisp-mnt message mailcap yank-media puny
dired dired-loaddefs rfc822 mml mml-sec password-cache epa derived epg
rfc6068 epg-config gnus-util mm-decode mm-bodies mm-encode mail-parse
rfc2231 mailabbrev gmm-utils mailheader sendmail rfc2047 rfc2045 ietf-drums mm-util mail-prsvr mail-utils cus-start cus-load recentf
tree-widget wid-edit time-date compile text-property-search comint<= br> subr-x ansi-osc ansi-color ring comp-run bytecomp byte-compile
comp-common rx warnings icons cl-loaddefs cl-lib rmc iso-transl tooltip
cconv eldoc paren electric uniquify ediff-hook vc-hooks lisp-float-type
elisp-mode mwheel term/pgtk-win pgtk-win term/common-win touch-screen
pgtk-dnd tool-bar dnd fontset image regexp-opt fringe tabulated-list
replace newcomment text-mode lisp-mode prog-mode register page tab-bar
menu-bar rfn-eshadow isearch easymenu timer select scroll-bar mouse
jit-lock font-lock syntax font-core term/tty-colors frame minibuffer
nadvice seq simple cl-generic indonesian philippine cham georgian utf-8-lang misc-lang vietnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao korean japanese eucjp-ms cp51932 hebrew greek romanian slovak czech european
ethiopic indian cyrillic chinese composite emoji-zwj charscript charprop
case-table epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook help abbrev obarray oclosure
cl-preloaded button loaddefs theme-loaddefs faces cus-face macroexp
files window text-properties overlay sha1 md5 base64 format env
= code-pages mule custom widget keymap hashtable-print-readable backquote
threads dbusbind inotify dynamic-setting system-font-setting
font-render-setting cairo gtk pgtk lcms2 multi-tty move-toolbar
= make-network-process tty-child-frames native-compile emacs)

Memory information:
((conses 16 88314 19791) (symbols 48 8421 0) (strings 32 20906 1600)
=C2=A0(string-bytes 1 716862) (vectors 16 12038)
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Go to the beginning of buffer if not found."   (goto-char (point-min))   (condition-case nil       (let (done)         (widget-move 1)         (while (not done)           (if (eq widget-type (widget-type (widget-at (point))))               (setq done t)             (widget-move 1))))     (error      (goto-char (point-min))))) Perhaps the real problem is in widget-move and the messages should not even be generated.  But that isn't something I have a way to tell.  What I CAN tell is that given they seem to  serve no purpose beyond creating confusion I see they can easily be eliminated using widget-move's optional suppress-echo parameter. Specifically, change  (widget-move 1)  to  (widget-move 1 t) in BOTH invocations within the above function. 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List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) On Sun, 1 Jun 2025 18:34:45 -0500 Rick wrote: > --text follows this line-- > You can recreate most of the problem starting with -Q however you must > have a previously populated recentf file before starting. > > M-x recentf-mode > M-x recentf-open-files > > Now switch to the *Messagers* buffer and notice something similar to: > > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Loading /home/rick/.emacs.d/recentf...done =C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0 Cleaning up the recentf > list...done (0 removed) =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Mark set =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Op= en > /snap/emacs/2827/usr/share/emacs/31.0.50/lisp/files.el.gz > > Observe that it claims to have opened the most recent item on recentf-lis= t, > as loaded from the pre-populated recentf file.=C2=A0 In my case .../files= .el.gz. > > There doesn't seem to be a buffer actually associated with the file but > it's unclear whether it was subsequently closed or a spurious message. I think you misunderstood those messages: each one is help text to inform you that by checking the box of that item you will open the file (in GUI Emacs you can see the same text in a tooltip if you move the mouse pointer over the item). So they are not informing you that the file has been opened. 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([2601:447:c580:e8e0:8a07:aa2f:a7ed:2879]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id d75a77b69052e-4a5917e334bsm35033281cf.50.2025.06.03.17.21.19 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 03 Jun 2025 17:21:20 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------FuiCC8e70x5DJjxYdRY0UBOV" Message-ID: <229cdfb2-904f-4184-991c-af0bdb2139ac@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2025 19:21:19 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: bug#78666: 31.0.50; recentf-open-files reports opening the last file accessed To: Stephen Berman References: <0ff49cfb-3682-4c70-954d-1d99eda00ad2@gmail.com> <87iklcl9qg.fsf@rub.de> Content-Language: en-US From: Rick In-Reply-To: <87iklcl9qg.fsf@rub.de> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 78666 Cc: 78666@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------FuiCC8e70x5DJjxYdRY0UBOV Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit It seems you are confirming that the messages are in fact spurious at this point in the execution process because they are generated prior to the window being presented to the user.   You are describing messages that are only useful once the user starts being able to interact with the buffer so other than at this point they are correct, necessary, appropriate. Given I'm not mistaken, I'm now much more confident that the fix I suggested an hour or so ago ago is only pretty close to the correct way to deal with it.  I will now amend my suggestion to the following. Add the optional parameter (accepted by widget-move) to recentf-dialog-goto-first so that 't' can be passed to widget-move when recentf-edit-list and recentf-open-files call it.  All other callers will default to nil and therefore be unaffected.  This should cleanly remove them exactly and only where they are inappropriate. (defun recentf-dialog-goto-first (widget-type *_&optional quietly_*)   "Move the cursor to the first WIDGET-TYPE in current dialog. Go to the beginning of buffer if not found."   (goto-char (point-min))   (condition-case nil       (let (done)         (widget-move 1 _*quietly*_)         (while (not done)           (if (eq widget-type (widget-type (widget-at (point))))               (setq done t)             (widget-move 1 _*quietly*_))))     (error      (goto-char (point-min))))) (defun recentf-open-files (&optional files buffer-name) ...     (recentf-dialog-goto-first 'link *_t_*))) (defun recentf-edit-list () ...     (recentf-dialog-goto-first 'checkbox *_t_*))) On 6/3/25 17:51, Stephen Berman wrote: > On Sun, 1 Jun 2025 18:34:45 -0500 Rick wrote: > >> --text follows this line-- >> You can recreate most of the problem starting with -Q however you must >> have a previously populated recentf file before starting. >> >> M-x recentf-mode >> M-x recentf-open-files >> >> Now switch to the *Messagers* buffer and notice something similar to: >> >>     Loading /home/rick/.emacs.d/recentf...done     Cleaning up the recentf >> list...done (0 removed)     Mark set     Open >> /snap/emacs/2827/usr/share/emacs/31.0.50/lisp/files.el.gz >> >> Observe that it claims to have opened the most recent item on recentf-list, >> as loaded from the pre-populated recentf file.  In my case .../files.el.gz. >> >> There doesn't seem to be a buffer actually associated with the file but >> it's unclear whether it was subsequently closed or a spurious message. > I think you misunderstood those messages: each one is help text to > inform you that by checking the box of that item you will open the file > (in GUI Emacs you can see the same text in a tooltip if you move the > mouse pointer over the item). So they are not informing you that the > file has been opened. > > Steve Berman --------------FuiCC8e70x5DJjxYdRY0UBOV Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

It seems you are confirming that the messages are in fact spurious
at this point in the execution process because they are generated
prior to the window being presented to the user.   You are
describing messages that are only useful once the user starts
being able to interact with the buffer so other than at this point
they are correct, necessary, appropriate.

Given I'm not mistaken, I'm now much more confident that the
fix I suggested an hour or so ago ago is only pretty close to
the correct way to deal with it.  I will now amend my suggestion
to the following.  

Add the optional parameter (accepted by widget-move) to
recentf-dialog-goto-first so that 't' can be passed to widget-move
when recentf-edit-list and recentf-open-files call it.  All other
callers will default to nil and therefore be unaffected.  This should
cleanly remove them exactly and only where they are inappropriate.

(defun recentf-dialog-goto-first (widget-type &optional quietly)
  "Move the cursor to the first WIDGET-TYPE in current dialog.
Go to the beginning of buffer if not found."
  (goto-char (point-min))
  (condition-case nil
      (let (done)
        (widget-move 1 quietly)
        (while (not done)
          (if (eq widget-type (widget-type (widget-at (point))))
              (setq done t)
            (widget-move 1 quietly))))
    (error
     (goto-char (point-min)))))


(defun recentf-open-files (&optional files buffer-name)
...
    (recentf-dialog-goto-first 'link t)))


(defun recentf-edit-list ()
...
    (recentf-dialog-goto-first 'checkbox t)))


On 6/3/25 17:51, Stephen Berman wrote:
On Sun, 1 Jun 2025 18:34:45 -0500 Rick <rbielaws@gmail.com> wrote:


--text follows this line--
You can recreate most of the problem starting with -Q however you must
have a previously populated recentf file before starting.

M-x recentf-mode
M-x recentf-open-files

Now switch to the *Messagers* buffer and notice something similar to:

    Loading /home/rick/.emacs.d/recentf...done     Cleaning up the recentf
list...done (0 removed)     Mark set     Open
/snap/emacs/2827/usr/share/emacs/31.0.50/lisp/files.el.gz

Observe that it claims to have opened the most recent item on recentf-list,
as loaded from the pre-populated recentf file.  In my case .../files.el.gz.

There doesn't seem to be a buffer actually associated with the file but
it's unclear whether it was subsequently closed or a spurious message.

I think you misunderstood those messages: each one is help text to
inform you that by checking the box of that item you will open the file
(in GUI Emacs you can see the same text in a tooltip if you move the
mouse pointer over the item).  So they are not informing you that the
file has been opened.

Steve Berman
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charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 3 Jun 2025 19:21:19 -0500 Rick wrote: [I moved the quoted message from me up for continuity.] > On 6/3/25 17:51, Stephen Berman wrote: >> On Sun, 1 Jun 2025 18:34:45 -0500 Rick wrote: >> >>> --text follows this line-- >>> You can recreate most of the problem starting with -Q however you must >>> have a previously populated recentf file before starting. >>> >>> M-x recentf-mode >>> M-x recentf-open-files >>> >>> Now switch to the *Messagers* buffer and notice something similar to: >>> >>> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Loading /home/rick/.emacs.d/recentf...done =C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0 Cleaning up the recentf >>> list...done (0 removed) =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Mark set =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 = Open >>> /snap/emacs/2827/usr/share/emacs/31.0.50/lisp/files.el.gz >>> >>> Observe that it claims to have opened the most recent item on recentf-l= ist, >>> as loaded from the pre-populated recentf file.=C2=A0 In my case .../fil= es.el.gz. >>> >>> There doesn't seem to be a buffer actually associated with the file but >>> it's unclear whether it was subsequently closed or a spurious message. >> I think you misunderstood those messages: each one is help text to >> inform you that by checking the box of that item you will open the file >> (in GUI Emacs you can see the same text in a tooltip if you move the >> mouse pointer over the item). So they are not informing you that the >> file has been opened. >> >> Steve Berman > > It seems you are confirming that the messages are in fact spurious > at this point in the execution process because they are generated > prior to the window being presented to the user.=C2=A0=C2=A0 You are > describing messages that are only useful once the user starts > being able to interact with the buffer so other than at this point > they are correct, necessary, appropriate. > > Given I'm not mistaken, I'm now much more confident that the > fix I suggested an hour or so ago ago is only pretty close to > the correct way to deal with it.=C2=A0 I will now amend my suggestion > to the following. > > Add the optional parameter (accepted by widget-move) to > recentf-dialog-goto-first so that 't' can be passed to widget-move > when recentf-edit-list and recentf-open-files call it.=C2=A0 All other > callers will default to nil and therefore be unaffected.=C2=A0 This should > cleanly remove them exactly and only where they are inappropriate. > > (defun recentf-dialog-goto-first (widget-type *_&optional quietly_*) > =C2=A0 "Move the cursor to the first WIDGET-TYPE in current dialog. > Go to the beginning of buffer if not found." > =C2=A0 (goto-char (point-min)) > =C2=A0 (condition-case nil > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 (let (done) > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 (widget-move 1 _*quietly*_) > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 (while (not done) > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 (if (eq widget-typ= e (widget-type (widget-at (point)))) > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0 (setq done t) > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 (widge= t-move 1 _*quietly*_)))) > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 (error > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 (goto-char (point-min))))) > > > (defun recentf-open-files (&optional files buffer-name) > ... > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 (recentf-dialog-goto-first 'link *_t_*))) > > > (defun recentf-edit-list () > ... > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 (recentf-dialog-goto-first 'checkbox *_t_*))) I took a closer look at recentf.el and found that the messages (which come from the :help-echo property in `recentf-open-files-item') are displayed only on invoking `recentf-open-files' and on tabbing between items in the *Open Recent* buffer; invoking `recentf-edit-list' or tabbing between check boxes in that list does not display such a message (so my assertion above was wrong in referring to check boxes). So you don't need to change `recentf-edit-list'. (And in fact, it isn't necessary to change `recentf-open-files' either, see the attached patch.) Also, your change only affects displaying the message on creating the open file dialog; further messages are still displayed when tabbing between items in that buffer. In your second post you said you saw several messages, also repeated ones. AFAICT all messages but the first can only result from tabbing between items; if this is not what you see, please give a precise recipe detailing what you find problematic. If you do also want to suppress the messages on tabbing between items, then I think more extensive changes are needed. For one thing, since displaying the messages has long been the status quo, suppressing them should be optional (though I agree with you that displaying the message on creating the *Open Recent* buffer seems like a bug). Moreover, since tabbing invokes the commands `widget-forward' and `widget-backward' (which in turn invoke `widget-move'), these need to be changed as well. The attached patch implements these changes. Steve Berman --=-=-= Content-Type: text/x-patch Content-Disposition: attachment Content-Description: patch for bug#78666 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable diff --git a/lisp/recentf.el b/lisp/recentf.el index a773ea9ec01..71f3eedfe43 100644 =2D-- a/lisp/recentf.el +++ b/lisp/recentf.el @@ -330,6 +330,14 @@ recentf-show-messages :group 'recentf :type 'boolean :version "31.1") + +(defcustom recentf-suppress-open-file-help nil + "If non-nil, suppress help message on tabbing in open file dialog. +If nil, show the help message on tabbing. (In any case, the help text +is displayed in a tooltip when the mouse pointer moves over the item)." + :group 'recentf + :type 'boolean + :version "31.1") =0C ;;; Utilities ;; @@ -1099,15 +1107,34 @@ recentf-dialog-goto-first Go to the beginning of buffer if not found." (goto-char (point-min)) (condition-case nil - (let (done) - (widget-move 1) + (let ((no-echo (or recentf-suppress-open-file-help + (not (or (eq this-command #'recentf-forward) + (eq this-command #'recentf-backward))))= ) + done) + (widget-move 1 no-echo) (while (not done) (if (eq widget-type (widget-type (widget-at (point)))) (setq done t) - (widget-move 1)))) + (widget-move 1 no-echo)))) (error (goto-char (point-min))))) =20 +(defun recentf-forward (arg) + "Move the cursor to the next widget in the current dialog. +With prefix argument ARG, move to the ARGth next widget. If +`recentf-suppress-open-file-help' is non-nil, suppress help messages in +the echo area in the open recentf dialog." + (interactive "p") + (widget-forward arg recentf-suppress-open-file-help)) + +(defun recentf-backward (arg) + "Move the cursor to the previous widget in the current dialog. +With prefix argument ARG, move to the ARGth previous widget. If +`recentf-suppress-open-file-help' is non-nil, suppress help messages in +the echo area in the open recentf dialog." + (interactive "p") + (widget-backward arg recentf-suppress-open-file-help)) + (defvar-keymap recentf-dialog-mode-map :doc "Keymap used in recentf dialogs." :parent (make-composed-keymap recentf--shortcuts-keymap widget-keymap) @@ -1139,6 +1166,8 @@ recentf-dialog (recentf-dialog-mode) ,@forms (widget-setup) + (keymap-local-set " " #'recentf-forward) + (keymap-local-set " " #'recentf-backward) (switch-to-buffer (current-buffer)))) =0C ;;; Edit list dialog diff --git a/lisp/wid-edit.el b/lisp/wid-edit.el index db241ca914a..311e39f4c0f 100644 =2D-- a/lisp/wid-edit.el +++ b/lisp/wid-edit.el @@ -1383,19 +1383,23 @@ widget-move (widget-echo-help (point))) (run-hooks 'widget-move-hook)) =20 -(defun widget-forward (arg) +(defun widget-forward (arg &optional suppress-echo) "Move point to the next field or button. -With optional ARG, move across that many fields." +With optional ARG, move across that many fields. +When the second optional argument is non-nil, +nothing is shown in the echo area." 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So you > don't need to change `recentf-edit-list'. (And in fact, it isn't > necessary to change `recentf-open-files' either, see the attached > patch.) > > Also, your change only affects displaying the message on creating the > open file dialog; further messages are still displayed when tabbing > between items in that buffer. In your second post you said you saw > several messages, also repeated ones. AFAICT all messages but the first > can only result from tabbing between items; if this is not what you see, > please give a precise recipe detailing what you find problematic. > > If you do also want to suppress the messages on tabbing between items, > then I think more extensive changes are needed. For one thing, since > displaying the messages has long been the status quo, suppressing them > should be optional (though I agree with you that displaying the message > on creating the *Open Recent* buffer seems like a bug). 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invoking `recentf-edit-list' or >> tabbing between check boxes in that list does not display such a message >> (so my assertion above was wrong in referring to check boxes). So you >> don't need to change `recentf-edit-list'. (And in fact, it isn't >> necessary to change `recentf-open-files' either, see the attached >> patch.) >> >> Also, your change only affects displaying the message on creating the >> open file dialog; further messages are still displayed when tabbing >> between items in that buffer. In your second post you said you saw >> several messages, also repeated ones. AFAICT all messages but the first >> can only result from tabbing between items; if this is not what you see, >> please give a precise recipe detailing what you find problematic. >> >> If you do also want to suppress the messages on tabbing between items, >> then I think more extensive changes are needed. For one thing, since >> displaying the messages has long been the status quo, suppressing them >> should be optional (though I agree with you that displaying the message >> on creating the *Open Recent* buffer seems like a bug). Moreover, since >> tabbing invokes the commands `widget-forward' and `widget-backward' >> (which in turn invoke `widget-move'), these need to be changed as well. >> The attached patch implements these changes. >> >> Steve Berman > > Nice bonus.=C2=A0 Thanks Since my patch goes beyond a minimal fix for the problem reported, I think it's appropriate that at least one of the Emacs maintainers should approve it or explain why it should not be installed. So this is a request for maintainer feedback. Thanks. Steve Berman