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charset="UTF-8" The HACKING and README-hacking files contain advice to send patches to the email address in the respective program's --help output. However, --help output might not contain any email addresses, such as for example in the coreutils that ships with Ubuntu 25.04. Looks as if both PACKAGE_PACKAGER and PACKAGE_PACKAGER_BUG_REPORTS need to be set in order to have at least one address there. Maybe some rephrasing of the hacking docs or adding fallback info there in case of no other email address source would be in order. Ville --00000000000088a55a06351db819 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
The HACKING and README-hacking files contain advice t= o send patches to the email address in the respective program's --help = output.

However, --help output might not contain a= ny email addresses, such as for example in the coreutils that ships with Ub= untu 25.04. Looks as if both PACKAGE_PACKAGER and PACKAGE_PACKAGER_BUG_REPO= RTS need to be set in order to have at least one address there.
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Maybe some rephrasing of the hacking docs or adding fallback = info there in case of no other email address source would be in order.

Ville
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[23.234.94.191]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id d9443c01a7336-22fc828ffbdsm102704395ad.196.2025.05.14.12.53.43 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Wed, 14 May 2025 12:53:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Collin Funk To: Ville =?utf-8?Q?Skytt=C3=A4?= Subject: Re: bug#78431: Unclear patch submission address In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 14 May 2025 12:53:42 -0700 Message-ID: <87msbf9dfd.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 78431 Cc: 78431@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) Ville Skytt=C3=A4 writes: > The HACKING and README-hacking files contain advice to send patches to the > email address in the respective program's --help output. > > However, --help output might not contain any email addresses, such as for > example in the coreutils that ships with Ubuntu 25.04. Looks as if both > PACKAGE_PACKAGER and PACKAGE_PACKAGER_BUG_REPORTS need to be set in order > to have at least one address there. > > Maybe some rephrasing of the hacking docs or adding fallback info there in > case of no other email address source would be in order. I think that adding an email regardless would be good seeing that Ubuntu wants to change their coreutils commands to uutils eventually [1]. I feel like that change will cause some confusion on where to report bugs... Plus the GNU coding standards say there should be an email [2]. On my Fedora 42 machine: $ automake --help | grep @ Report bugs to . $ ln --help | grep @ Maybe I am missing some history behind why the bug report email is not included though. 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Plus, the current code is confusing. How about the attached coreutils patch? It simplifies the code and goes back to the old way of doing things, which includes outputting the bug reporting address. If this doesn't generate the output we want, surely we should change Gnulib's emit_bug_reporting_address rather than try to reinvent it. 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[23.234.94.191]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id d9443c01a7336-22fc773f262sm104841475ad.77.2025.05.14.16.22.18 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Wed, 14 May 2025 16:22:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Collin Funk To: Paul Eggert Subject: Re: bug#78431: Unclear patch submission address In-Reply-To: References: <87msbf9dfd.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 14 May 2025 16:22:17 -0700 Message-ID: <87cycaaic6.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 78431 Cc: 78431@debbugs.gnu.org, Ville =?utf-8?Q?Skytt=C3=A4?= , P@draigBrady.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) Paul Eggert writes: > Yes, now's a good time to revisit the decision in 2013 to remove the > bug-reporting email address[1]. Plus, the current code is confusing. > > How about the attached coreutils patch? It simplifies the code and > goes back to the old way of doing things, which includes outputting > the bug reporting address. > > If this doesn't generate the output we want, surely we should change > Gnulib's emit_bug_reporting_address rather than try to reinvent it. I think the change is good, but lets wait for P=C3=A1draig's thoughts since he disliked this many lines in --help, which resulted in the current output [1]. 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[86.44.211.146]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id ffacd0b85a97d-3a1f5a2d2d3sm22747033f8f.63.2025.05.15.03.38.15 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 15 May 2025 03:38:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 15 May 2025 11:38:15 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Beta Subject: Re: bug#78431: Unclear patch submission address To: Paul Eggert , Collin Funk References: <87msbf9dfd.fsf@gmail.com> Content-Language: en-US From: =?UTF-8?Q?P=C3=A1draig_Brady?= In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 78431 Cc: 78431@debbugs.gnu.org, =?UTF-8?Q?Ville_Skytt=C3=A4?= X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) On 14/05/2025 21:40, Paul Eggert wrote: > On 2025-05-14 12:53, Collin Funk wrote: >> I think that adding an email regardless would be good > > Yes, now's a good time to revisit the decision in 2013 to remove the > bug-reporting email address[1]. Plus, the current code is confusing. > > How about the attached coreutils patch? It simplifies the code and goes > back to the old way of doing things, which includes outputting the bug > reporting address. > > If this doesn't generate the output we want, surely we should change > Gnulib's emit_bug_reporting_address rather than try to reinvent it. > > [1]: > https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/coreutils.git/commit/?id=8b6d3c5700526f962b12cd5901b55961c5e18186 Thanks for discussing this on list. The main reason for the current instructions was to avoid non bug reports on the bug-coreutils@gnu.org list, but I haven't strong opinions on this, so am happy to go with the proposed patch. cheers, Pádraig From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu May 15 12:01:31 2025 Received: (at 78431-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 May 2025 16:01:31 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55322 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1uFb1X-000465-40 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 15 May 2025 12:01:31 -0400 Received: from mail.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.66]:38122) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1uFb1J-00045O-If for 78431-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 15 May 2025 12:01:21 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33F253C0140A0; Thu, 15 May 2025 09:01:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavis, port 10032) with ESMTP id dTE3XtQb1nrr; Thu, 15 May 2025 09:01:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B3F93C0149C8; Thu, 15 May 2025 09:01:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.10.3 mail.cs.ucla.edu 0B3F93C0149C8 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=cs.ucla.edu; s=9D0B346E-2AEB-11ED-9476-E14B719DCE6C; t=1747324871; bh=EBWIJPMN15wHMgwQloXhgu5zkDAKRZOtem+o68yUy6A=; h=Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:To:From; b=RYnyFizkJea2O5/UlVKH1rfMWN9jqgbvBvdgYay8oJCZk0ZZx1CsIBQLFfJ7nW7SC c+bIut9Cs5U9pl+3gwLJRIT+psKjo2l5merg6ArD6z121oLmP6Z1RsbI1/AfW1jrwR DUtbL0fwj7yuRGvhUGsiJvxhP2EMSjqvD77u4mArimBgQU8HqNH4tShKywuPDtRP/d FEb+ekJjcxeB9UB49CzMX/aBTDCAt8uO9IaiRDIYvY8zXBOceCCWGX7vTW4itGVWeA xOcGUQUq5zb5ueH406FdBrrudFOyLuj9oGi0rAGwANZ2IO0ZJxvfwLJA41rPF9bCrS YqTJpBqIRDHTA== X-Virus-Scanned: amavis at mail.cs.ucla.edu Received: from mail.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavis, port 10026) with ESMTP id azYUjnteu-w6; Thu, 15 May 2025 09:01:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.254.12] (47-147-225-25.fdr01.snmn.ca.ip.frontiernet.net [47.147.225.25]) by mail.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DF7B43C0140A0; Thu, 15 May 2025 09:01:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <2bc73e93-30c9-44d8-a98c-5639b304f194@cs.ucla.edu> Date: Thu, 15 May 2025 09:01:10 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: bug#78431: Unclear patch submission address To: =?UTF-8?Q?P=C3=A1draig_Brady?= , Collin Funk References: <87msbf9dfd.fsf@gmail.com> Content-Language: en-US From: Paul Eggert Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 78431-done Cc: 78431-done@debbugs.gnu.org, =?UTF-8?Q?Ville_Skytt=C3=A4?= X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) On 2025-05-15 03:38, P=C3=A1draig Brady wrote: > I haven't strong opinions on this, > so am happy to go with the proposed patch. 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