From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue May 13 16:48:41 2025 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 May 2025 20:48:41 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35083 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1uEwYL-0002nY-0B for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 13 May 2025 16:48:41 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:470:142::17]:44192) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1uEwYI-0002mH-0C for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 13 May 2025 16:48:38 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1uEwXa-0002Ne-2p for bug-auctex@gnu.org; Tue, 13 May 2025 16:48:04 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1uEwXZ-0006O3-Qp for bug-auctex@gnu.org; Tue, 13 May 2025 16:47:53 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-Version:Date:Subject:To:From:in-reply-to: references; bh=Qsbs3qIqdgghtaNeG+8iccAgVapTaSnWn/FbPYWtHPw=; b=jYdXWQAtKWp1bu D6LeuGh7AKBclqbU5xRdp7pu1nXihoWLcittXM82LECtAs2WMyO0IMF0ACby48bi6JUsNdpyIfSvf /cPgnHCzfIKKYyStbm33HGz8+UeniCQvWs7PQAjqJKl0Ug0NcyJsgg/D6TuOQqeE2Gf411t8cATVS 9BKIE5KWWb0HqP8rVqeq0eH0raGINCcLvsmxTIJ99w56+q4/n7R5m6h7xEIoLgp0IpxRfEMrd2w2S Re9vF1LD9LU9ujvja1W1ujAnOeM00GyTyWdsuPSOnBf5oormZwtPNYXBgjA74hmVVwCefPt2DAzLI cixOkKIRQUDHu8/et9Kg==; From: Arash Esbati To: "auctex-bugs" Subject: Removing recommendation for out-xtra.el Date: Tue, 13 May 2025 22:47:49 +0200 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Hi all, we have the following paragraph in auctex.texi[1]: --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- @c FIXME: Isn't this much outdated? You may want to check out the unbundled @file{out-xtra} package for even better outline support. It is available from your favorite emacs lisp archive. --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- Searching the net, I found only one reference to out-xtra.el here[2]. Looking at the library, it provides the functions `outline-hide-sublevels' and `outline-hide-other' which are provided by outline.el as well. Loading out-extr.el sounds like asking for trouble. Should we follow the comment and remove that recommendation from the manual? Best, Arash Footnotes: [1] https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/auctex.git/tree/doc/auctex.texi#n3053 [2] https://stuff.mit.edu/afs/sipb/user/jtkohl/elisp/out-xtra.el From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed May 14 12:35:55 2025 Received: (at 78413) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 May 2025 16:35:56 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44663 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1uFF5G-0003Ia-F4 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 14 May 2025 12:35:55 -0400 Received: from mail-ej1-x633.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::633]:50645) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1uFF5C-0003HY-6z for 78413@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 14 May 2025 12:35:51 -0400 Received: by mail-ej1-x633.google.com with SMTP id a640c23a62f3a-ad221e3e5a2so2752866b.1 for <78413@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 14 May 2025 09:35:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1747240544; x=1747845344; darn=debbugs.gnu.org; h=mime-version:message-id:date:in-reply-to:subject:cc:to:from:from:to :cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=ll5srWmgaRQ/lOAaFxw83vbOjTBb3fTht13y3P3GoFE=; b=dhbnhbyQfCxJq4/aOtn2u+olADS8s5gPpxps3pwRE0LmG4xzICfoJBtoOlJVVciFCi lOSoFtSTebWf6AAnKbo5KJzEeVgz+BEWfOjrt+7Tnuc6lEUXUF6Rdb6fpzpVe7yiOkpx +WhBXiZRsUHibKtiwrlgZosDCIewyzipdDZ3rAyH8RupxTAiBE7b5F08Eovb2JLe+TM7 e7dGbW/qQLlbJx5+vPltqIfIfhw/A1Zf0958wlYaJksqioq2LpcQh4j5jgUFUPlmcric 6iP48ZLF4+hEP9IQtUurE4loCv8c0Dcp+tAb9f1rAqnd8xPEJyo0T21aO7oTjJTMN1pr r18Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1747240544; x=1747845344; h=mime-version:message-id:date:in-reply-to:subject:cc:to:from :x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=ll5srWmgaRQ/lOAaFxw83vbOjTBb3fTht13y3P3GoFE=; b=Efzte5WTR/E+vVMdg647Ig9EBem5LxtD+A2qUcrZU5K0msV6ihMU5sSy4OW4okgSN0 FLT5a0kQZ+/dQAQRD20zEFsCUxNJCpKK7vDNn7RTeqx8XJVzgytcs5Lr6uom4b+H73RW K4zoHI4YIOIXesN8vzq0PuMU7eCWhexWCY8od/mdozROCnC84deLtsITOXvuJGISBI5H qDDmeRU6DJC4LsRis2jdb0t3t728ZgYigEj8WWuV2lZ+dFYDU8R1bGxPUXiXUzSQWC1Y 6bVwfLEAyWc1iGGHv5Meo7rEzoiLQqGN6FrjMdn3g3LFoQYdqWv+zTTEFBlEXmOAf9Yb a3vA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YxUqCnf1VQD8JXvp27p0tiQ4N9+LT4e2m3HaYHUpFBxf0F72kVA vVMfZGgw6a0AeGWuJ/96G5Po5hzprDYwGWyAYOtmqm4WSXhDwhwg X-Gm-Gg: ASbGnct7y/CoMcucGwjTF1dwYwcnzi3gfDsUXNIv0Fuc4P4VHB8IQOCJhd2O0efpaNg 6wPeFB4zW770r4ZZFjmN+J30ThkjQ6pQOzrYmvP8VeYDMTO8vipfobJdDmNUS+0e6GIDOTxhXb3 O3rqiYBCpPAP77bq7N9Upaas9jZC40cIKHceHXF8/u4ABrS99dXgvLmjEX9jcUiLbYNDefqTQss sKsvk4BX34EP+VdnWX63xHk6cEBBSWZpGSRGtoUX95ZepMMTxzxHOu05fWOT1p5lu70iyIuCgoP GChpG+nXLpIAjBH4oiMS/UMPS7CWoO8IXTeIVLTpkY/s+Qb0UXY3B9Kbzfm4Vj+4qR4= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IFhd2Ue3gojVph2bnzi23Ia7yrcbrctmwGOabywhgauccVlGyfiKL6O4IDVfD0qXEjz5oJr3g== X-Received: by 2002:a17:907:c814:b0:ad1:a87d:3cd0 with SMTP id a640c23a62f3a-ad4f7113f2fmr420225666b.17.1747240543615; Wed, 14 May 2025 09:35:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([185.229.155.40]) by smtp.gmail.com with UTF8SMTPSA id a640c23a62f3a-ad219343c81sm974073466b.58.2025.05.14.09.35.43 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Wed, 14 May 2025 09:35:43 -0700 (PDT) From: "Paul D. Nelson" To: Arash Esbati Subject: Re: bug#78413: Removing recommendation for out-xtra.el In-Reply-To: (message from Arash Esbati on Tue, 13 May 2025 22:47:49 +0200) Date: Wed, 14 May 2025 18:35:42 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 78413 Cc: 78413@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Hi Arash, sounds good to me! Paul From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed May 14 14:46:03 2025 Received: (at 78413-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 May 2025 18:46:03 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45352 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1uFH7D-0007d6-Fl for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 14 May 2025 14:46:03 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:41894) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1uFH7B-0007cM-BR for 78413-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 14 May 2025 14:46:01 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1uFH75-0004S5-UW; Wed, 14 May 2025 14:45:55 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-Version:Date:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:To: From; bh=2bBBcXxnlbD70imlDxvmD5bIq+ndhqlEO2gCvLJz5V8=; b=kbnPxHqOw56PX/qfpTKU jahl+2CzV3KxpsP2tqFvF2utqpP576V0onpbrqUblIm0AaMMbDCDZrBg6/e6jm23Qax3fEwq+IW6k M7H29ovDoTBoEVSMrqeoI/GnPx7ODygmEJpDJVwMBmcw9KrfpmAofpvQ6zIu2Z6eSY+laBFbjWFQs 1QqkIYMYVTQ9JRt7j53F6J7FE/dJs39t8ObX5ulS19hDtW1HhoP1NPZpgax0ar334A1tKRs9pHNpb mG/U/LP9yVruHNRbYpWdY5z0UyIfofjt/5Q4EgkgrYMWs76SG8jwNLN1qD72OtArBgDSJkIDlcaZM uFyV2xVwypu/kg==; From: Arash Esbati To: "Paul D. Nelson" Subject: Re: bug#78413: Removing recommendation for out-xtra.el In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 14 May 2025 20:45:47 +0200 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 78413-done Cc: 78413-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) "Paul D. Nelson" writes: > Hi Arash, sounds good to me! Paul Hi Paul, Thanks, I just installed that change, closing. Best, Arash From unknown Sat Jun 14 03:55:33 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. 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