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Koutliner error in file name without file type [not a bug, exactly]

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From: Cena Mayo <cenazoic <at> gmail.com>
To: bug-hyperbole <at> gnu.org
Subject: Koutliner error in file name without file type [not a bug, exactly]
Date: Fri, 9 May 2025 12:13:32 -0500

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In my simple-mindedness as an (Emacs) newbie trying out Hyperbole, (9.0.1
on Emacs 31.0.50) I attempted to create a new Koutliner file via the
Hyperbole menu->Koutliner->Create-File.

After entering the name of the file and pressing return, I got:

Debugger entered--Lisp error: (void-function klabel-type:function)
  klabel-type:function(alpha)
  kview:set-functions(alpha)
  kview:create("changes")
  kfile:create(#<buffer changes>)
  kfile:read(#<buffer changes> nil)
  kfile:find("~/.emacs.d/changes")
  funcall-interactively(kfile:find "~/.emacs.d/changes")
  command-execute(kfile:find)

As you can see, I left the file type off of the file name; including it
(changes.kotl)) resolves the issue.

So this isn't a bug, per se; I'm just reporting this because maybe(?) a
reminder upon file name input or auto-addition of the file type to the file
name could be implemented?  In your copious free time?

As an aside, if Bob Weiner happens to see this - I was inspired to try
Hyperbole after seeing this 3-hr Q&A
<https://emacsconf.org/2022/talks/fanfare/> from EmacsConf 2022, where you
and John Cummings chat about a million things.  Really appreciated your
long-term perspective on a variety of topics (benefit of getting older, as
one old tries to convince the other.)

As another of those infernal 'seeks-to-understand-from-the-atomic-level'
people y'all discuss (maybe not toilet paper, fine)  really looking forward
to digging into Hyperbole, and perhaps will even generate a one-page report
of feedback from a newbie. :)

Best,
Cena Mayo

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Message #8 received at 78345 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Robert Weiner <rswgnu <at> gmail.com>
To: Mayo Cena <cenazoic <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 78345 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#78345: Koutliner error in file name without file type [not a
 bug, exactly]
Date: Sun, 11 May 2025 08:32:36 -0400

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Message #11 received at 78345 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Mats Lidell <matsl <at> gnu.org>
To: Cena Mayo <cenazoic <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 78345 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#78345: Koutliner error in file name without file type [not
 a bug, exactly]
Date: Mon, 12 May 2025 15:43:31 +0200

> Cena Mayo writes:
> In my simple-mindedness as an (Emacs) newbie trying out Hyperbole, (9.0.1 on Emacs 31.0.50) I attempted to create a new Koutliner file via the
> Hyperbole menu->Koutliner->Create-File.
>
> After entering the name of the file and pressing return, I got:
>
> Debugger entered--Lisp error: (void-function klabel-type:function)
>   klabel-type:function(alpha)
>   kview:set-functions(alpha)
>   kview:create("changes")
>   kfile:create(#<buffer changes>)
>   kfile:read(#<buffer changes> nil)
>   kfile:find("~/.emacs.d/changes")
>   funcall-interactively(kfile:find "~/.emacs.d/changes")
>   command-execute(kfile:find)
>
> As you can see, I left the file type off of the file name; including it (changes.kotl)) resolves the issue. 
>
> So this isn't a bug, per se; I'm just reporting this because maybe(?) a reminder upon file name input or auto-addition of the file type to the file name
> could be implemented?  In your copious free time? 

Thanks for the report. I can recreate the issue on thus confirm it.

I think it is a loading or dependency issue where all relevant kotl functions are not loaded as they should. A possible workaround is to add a "(require 'kotl-mode)" to your .emacs. The problem is present in all versions of Hyperbole.

%% Mats

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