From unknown Sun Jun 22 11:31:06 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#7827 <7827@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#7827 <7827@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: Please do not give an error in help when it fails Reply-To: bug#7827 <7827@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2025 18:31:06 +0000 retitle 7827 Please do not give an error in help when it fails reassign 7827 emacs submitter 7827 Lennart Borgman severity 7827 wishlist thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Jan 11 20:33:23 2011 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Jan 2011 01:33:23 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PcpaU-0004WT-V1 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 20:33:23 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PcpaT-0004WH-0O for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 20:33:21 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Pcphg-0001Df-5Q for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 20:40:50 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,RFC_ABUSE_POST,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.1 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]:43852) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Pcphg-0001Da-3I for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 20:40:48 -0500 Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=60100 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PcphZ-0002vw-58 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 20:40:47 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PcphU-0001B4-BZ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 20:40:41 -0500 Received: from mail-ew0-f41.google.com ([209.85.215.41]:41754) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PcphU-0001Aw-19 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 20:40:36 -0500 Received: by ewy27 with SMTP id 27so32548ewy.0 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 17:40:35 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=x7S7kLELMzvvIY+ViRRl06onwg/HF9u6lLvToz+95OM=; b=LG4rc8SDuEKQOM1QfOcOWZO20rSKzFopA0RZYQQMeBohOK/ikVtrnRFcriDqvBF9o3 RNxbBC7xUxQuYhXV8VUFxZ8UBv0Fn0+57n1t5XRLTBlhyd07VjpQME1fDDcTo2hDmUvI 7/4/4/u/G8rnKo+l2kkXuwhty+g9DukqARAh4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=kwXlITQh3wfSZI907TLUvbon1ILdo91K2MfO6Aihg2Ir2hcCsTNdeO5Cp11B4kKgD7 ndIYYTkd6eq+NhRt7zNZWqU28CC95tFvCkPjB5Mf0wtrNyys/6ry/j6EhDJQJdHYvHsb qJCVOBhEYukO3zlYHlf3YkI5++dvRO47UKA0k= Received: by 10.213.29.16 with SMTP id o16mr604545ebc.58.1294796434859; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 17:40:34 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.20.148 with HTTP; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 17:40:14 -0800 (PST) From: Lennart Borgman Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 02:40:14 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Please do not give an error in help when it fails To: Emacs Bugs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Spam-Score: -4.7 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.7 (----) I just got this error when clicking the [back] button in help: Debugger entered--Lisp error: (error "Selecting deleted buffer") describe-mode(#) apply(describe-mode #) help-xref-go-back(#) apply(help-xref-go-back #) help-do-xref(214 help-xref-go-back (#)) help-button-action(#) push-button(214) call-interactively(push-button nil nil) That is very unpractical since it prevents from going further back in the help stack. (Currently I am trying to find my test case which was some help text 611 chars long, but I do not remember what it was.) Just put the backtrace in the help buffer instead with a short explanation. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jan 12 23:53:42 2011 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Jan 2011 04:53:42 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PdFBu-0008Kx-9O for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 12 Jan 2011 23:53:42 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PdFBt-0008Kn-8k for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 12 Jan 2011 23:53:41 -0500 Received: from cyd by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PdFJ7-0005th-IR for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 00:01:09 -0500 From: Chong Yidong To: control@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: severity 7827 wishlist Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 00:01:09 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -6.6 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.6 (------) severity 7827 wishlist thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Oct 01 16:53:15 2019 Received: (at 7827) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Oct 2019 20:53:15 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34943 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iFP91-0003sV-4m for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 01 Oct 2019 16:53:15 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]:60416) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iFP8z-0003sN-3u for 7827@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 01 Oct 2019 16:53:13 -0400 Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=marnie) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iFP8w-00089k-1q; Tue, 01 Oct 2019 22:53:12 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Lennart Borgman Subject: Re: bug#7827: Please do not give an error in help when it fails References: Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2019 22:53:09 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Lennart Borgman's message of "Wed, 12 Jan 2011 02:40:14 +0100") Message-ID: <87ftkcw5l6.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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Content preview: Lennart Borgman writes: > I just got this error when clicking the [back] button in help: > > Debugger entered--Lisp error: (error "Selecting deleted buffer") > describe-mode(#) > apply(describe-mode # List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Lennart Borgman writes: > I just got this error when clicking the [back] button in help: > > Debugger entered--Lisp error: (error "Selecting deleted buffer") > describe-mode(#) > apply(describe-mode #) > help-xref-go-back(#) > apply(help-xref-go-back #) > help-do-xref(214 help-xref-go-back (#)) > help-button-action(#) > push-button(214) > call-interactively(push-button nil nil) > > That is very unpractical since it prevents from going further back in > the help stack. (Currently I am trying to find my test case which was > some help text 611 chars long, but I do not remember what it was.) > > Just put the backtrace in the help buffer instead with a short explanation. I don't see why an error in the help buffer should be treated differently than anywhere else: If you have debug-on-error bound, then you should get a proper backtrace. So I'm closing this bug report. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Oct 01 16:53:24 2019 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Oct 2019 20:53:24 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34946 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iFP97-0003ss-Ck for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 01 Oct 2019 16:53:21 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]:60432) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iFP95-0003sj-Pb for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 01 Oct 2019 16:53:20 -0400 Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=marnie) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iFP93-00089v-39 for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 01 Oct 2019 22:53:19 +0200 Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2019 22:53:16 +0200 Message-Id: <87eezww5kz.fsf@gnus.org> To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #7827 X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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