GNU bug report logs - #77917
31.0.50; [PATCH] Stop using the "stop" sign for all warning levels

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Package: emacs;

Reported by: Protesilaos Stavrou <prot <at> protesilaos.com>

Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2025 07:25:02 UTC

Severity: normal

Tags: patch

Found in version 31.0.50

Done: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>

Bug is archived. No further changes may be made.

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Message #112 received at 77917 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Stephen Berman <stephen.berman <at> gmx.net>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: rpluim <at> gmail.com, juri <at> linkov.net, 77917 <at> debbugs.gnu.org,
 yantar92 <at> posteo.net, prot <at> protesilaos.com
Subject: Re: bug#77917: 31.0.50; [PATCH] Stop using the "stop" sign for all
 warning levels
Date: Tue, 06 May 2025 21:26:35 +0200
On Tue, 06 May 2025 18:33:48 +0300 Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> wrote:

>> From: Stephen Berman <stephen.berman <at> gmx.net>
>> Cc: Robert Pluim <rpluim <at> gmail.com>,  yantar92 <at> posteo.net,
>>   77917 <at> debbugs.gnu.org,  prot <at> protesilaos.com,  juri <at> linkov.net
>> Date: Tue, 06 May 2025 14:04:07 +0200
>> 
>> On Tue, 06 May 2025 14:29:34 +0300 Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> wrote:
>> 
>> >> I conclude from that that we should use U+26A0 U+FE0F ⚠️ as the symbol
>> >> to insert.
>> >
>> > Really?  So we've just made another full circle back to the beginning?
>> > Where someone said, and I agree, that showing ⚠️ explains itself worse
>> > than the existing symbol, because it could be easily interpreted as
>> > meaning just "Warning".
>> 
>> What about the character "ℹ" (#x2139 INFORMATION SOURCE), perhaps with a
>> box face attribute, or alternatively as emoji "ℹ️"?  This sign is widely
>> recognized and I think even invites clicking to see what the information
>> is (though having an explicit button as well would avoid any
>> misunderstanding).
>
> If this is recognized widely enough, sure.  But can you point to some
> examples of using this for that purpose?

If you mean an editor using "ℹ" or "ℹ️" as button to display otherwise
hidden information, then no, I don't know of any such editors (but I
have little acquaintance of editors besides Emacs :).  I have seen "ℹ"
used simply to mark (but not reveal) an informative message; here is an
example of output in the R console:
https://r4ds.hadley.nz/intro.html#the-tidyverse

Steve Berman




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