From unknown Mon Jun 16 23:47:53 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#77851 <77851@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#77851 <77851@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: AM_RUN_LOG not found due to ustar by default Reply-To: bug#77851 <77851@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2025 06:47:53 +0000 retitle 77851 AM_RUN_LOG not found due to ustar by default reassign 77851 automake submitter 77851 Karl Berry severity 77851 normal thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Apr 16 16:57:04 2025 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Apr 2025 20:57:05 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43213 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1u59oa-00085Z-Vp for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 16 Apr 2025 16:57:04 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:470:142::17]:53674) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1u59oN-000843-A4 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 16 Apr 2025 16:56:51 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1u59oH-0000bR-S4 for bug-automake@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Apr 2025 16:56:41 -0400 Received: from frenzy.freefriends.org ([198.99.81.75] helo=freefriends.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1u59oG-0002K8-9x for bug-automake@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Apr 2025 16:56:41 -0400 X-Envelope-From: karl@freefriends.org Received: from freefriends.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefriends.org (8.16.1/8.16.1) with ESMTPS id 53GKuYBO1140343 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Wed, 16 Apr 2025 14:56:34 -0600 Received: (from apache@localhost) by freefriends.org (8.16.1/8.14.7/Submit) id 53GKuYmn1140342; Wed, 16 Apr 2025 14:56:34 -0600 Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2025 14:56:34 -0600 Message-Id: <202504162056.53GKuYmn1140342@freefriends.org> From: Karl Berry To: Ross.Burton@arm.com Subject: AM_RUN_LOG not found due to ustar by default Received-SPF: pass client-ip=198.99.81.75; envelope-from=karl@freefriends.org; helo=freefriends.org X-Spam_score_int: -41 X-Spam_score: -4.2 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.2 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_RPBL_BLOCKED=0.001, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_SAFE_BLOCKED=0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit Cc: bug-automake@gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Hi Ross - continuing on bug-automake from your report at https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/automake/2025-04/msg00002.html. (No reason to bother platform-testers with this.) > I repeated my tests and rebuilds of existing source trees that have > been configured with 1.70 still break for me: As expected, since I didn't make any changes to fix it, since we could never reproduce your breakage. Reverting 2d2ff6070ca13428032c14f1d1cfd57b6b22e42d (use ustar by default) makes this go away. Yes, also as expected. But we have to find out why. 1. build intltool out-of-tree from a fresh tarball with automake 1.17.0 Where did you get this intltool, precisely? Not that it's likely to matter, granted, but for purposes of reproducing ... 1. build intltool out-of-tree from a fresh tarball with automake 1.17.0 2. delete the build tree, autoreconf the same source tree with 1.17.92 Although the automake change is provoking the bug, I think a crucial question is what version of autoconf you are using, not automake. Because autom4te is part of autoconf, not automake, as we previously discussed. Thus I suggest trying with the latest released autoconf, 2.72, from https://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/autoconf/autoconf-2.72.tar.xz. As I recall, you were using an autoconf development version from git. Maybe that is the culprit. Otherwise, it continues to be strange that no one else has reported or can reproduce the problem. As I wrote before, all I can think of is for you to make a tarball of your source tree, including autom4te.cache, after each step. Then, if we're starting from (supposedly) the same source, and running (supposedly) the same versions of the autotools, we should be able to see at what point they diverge. Also, what happens if you build from the start with 1.17.92? (I.e., no autoreconf involved.) Does it find AM_TRY_LOG? 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21 Apr 2025 20:42:45 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39448 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1u6xyW-0005Gs-W2 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 21 Apr 2025 16:42:45 -0400 Received: from frenzy.freefriends.org ([198.99.81.75]:49684 helo=freefriends.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1u6xy8-0005Du-F8 for 77851@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 21 Apr 2025 16:42:23 -0400 X-Envelope-From: karl@freefriends.org Received: from freefriends.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefriends.org (8.16.1/8.16.1) with ESMTPS id 53LKgGbD252162 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 21 Apr 2025 14:42:16 -0600 Received: (from apache@localhost) by freefriends.org (8.16.1/8.14.7/Submit) id 53LKgGvC252161; Mon, 21 Apr 2025 14:42:16 -0600 Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2025 14:42:16 -0600 Message-Id: <202504212042.53LKgGvC252161@freefriends.org> From: Karl Berry To: Ross.Burton@arm.com Subject: Re: bug#77851: AM_RUN_LOG not found due to ustar by default In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 77851 Cc: 77851@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Hi Ross, I shall update to the final [autoconf] release Have you had a chance to try this? I would like to get to the bottom of this so I can make the release. because intltool is already configured, being a tarball. Your intltool link does not seem to provide any tarball. [1] as per https://git.yoctoproject.org/poky/tree/meta/recipes-devtools/intltool/intltool_0.51.0.bb What command do I type (or button/link do I click) to get the code so I can try to reproduce? Git clone didn't work. I see no instructions. I suppose it's obvious to most people, but sorry, I'm stymied. $ git clone -q https://git.yoctoproject.org/poky/tree/meta/recipes-devtools/intltool/intltool_0.51.0.bb fatal: repository 'https://git.yoctoproject.org/poky/tree/meta/recipes-devtools/intltool/intltool_0.51.0.bb/' not found I've never seen this behaviour with autotools upgrades before... Presumably it's related to the ustar change being so "early" in configure. AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE hasn't changed in such a way for many years. Possibly adding AC_REQUIRE([AM_RUN_LOG])dnl (after the other AC_REQUIREs, as below) would work around the problem? I didn't try since I can't reproduce. --thanks, karl. --- a/m4/init.m4 +++ b/m4/init.m4 @@ -99,6 +99,7 @@ AC_SUBST([mkdir_p], ['$(MKDIR_P)']) AC_REQUIRE([AC_PROG_AWK])dnl AC_REQUIRE([AC_PROG_MAKE_SET])dnl AC_REQUIRE([AM_SET_LEADING_DOT])dnl +AC_REQUIRE([AM_RUN_LOG])dnl _AM_IF_OPTION([tar-ustar], [_AM_PROG_TAR([ustar])], [_AM_IF_OPTION([tar-pax], [_AM_PROG_TAR([pax])], [_AM_IF_OPTION([tar-v7], [_AM_PROG_TAR([v7])], From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat May 03 13:10:51 2025 Received: (at 77851) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 May 2025 17:10:51 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42999 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1uBGO2-0002mh-PQ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 03 May 2025 13:10:51 -0400 Received: from frenzy.freefriends.org ([198.99.81.75]:40138 helo=freefriends.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1uBGNz-0002mD-BB for 77851@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 03 May 2025 13:10:48 -0400 X-Envelope-From: karl@freefriends.org Received: from freefriends.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefriends.org (8.16.1/8.16.1) with ESMTPS id 543HAiX81534987 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Sat, 3 May 2025 11:10:44 -0600 Received: (from apache@localhost) by freefriends.org (8.16.1/8.14.7/Submit) id 543HAhD01534986; Sat, 3 May 2025 11:10:43 -0600 Date: Sat, 3 May 2025 11:10:43 -0600 Message-Id: <202505031710.543HAhD01534986@freefriends.org> From: Karl Berry To: Ross.Burton@arm.com Subject: Re: bug#77851: AM_RUN_LOG not found due to ustar by default In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 77851 Cc: 77851@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Hi Ross - I tried to again to reproduce your AC_RUN_LOG leftover after autoreconf, following your original report at https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/automake/2025-02/msg00037.html and followups over the last couple of months. Downloaded intltool from https://launchpad.net/intltool/+download and unpacked: wget https://launchpad.net/intltool/trunk/0.51.0/+download/intltool-0.51.0.tar.gz tar xf intltool-0.51.0.tar.gz I'm using autoconf-2.72, since the url for your patches for autoconf-2.72e is now "path not found": https://git.yoctoproject.org/poky/tree/meta/recipes-devtools/autoconf/autoconf_2.72e.bb $ autoconf --version | sed 1q autoconf (GNU Autoconf) 2.72 Ran automake 1.17: $ automake-1.17 --version | sed 1q automake (GNU automake) 1.17 $ automake-1.17 I get expected warnings about using a different version of autoconf and automake than the intltools tarball. I presume you get them too: aclocal.m4:17: warning: this file was generated for autoconf 2.69. You have another version of autoconf. It may work, but is not guaranteed to. If you have problems, you may need to regenerate the build system entirely. To do so, use the procedure documented by the package, typically 'autoreconf'. configure.ac:7: error: version mismatch. This is Automake 1.17, configure.ac:7: but the definition used by this AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE configure.ac:7: comes from Automake 1.14.1. You should run Fine. Using automake-1.17.92 (*), run autoreconf (no output): $ PATH=/tmp/am92/bin:$PATH automake --version | sed 1q automake (GNU automake) 1.17.92 $ PATH=/tmp/am92/bin:$PATH autoreconf Observe that AM_RUN_LOG is not in the generated configure: $ \grep AM_RUN config* And it is in aclocal.m4: $ \grep AM_RUN config* $ \grep AM_RUN * aclocal.m4:# AM_RUN_LOG(COMMAND) aclocal.m4:AC_DEFUN([AM_RUN_LOG], .. ./configure && make also runs fine, not surprisingly. It would appear the problem is specific to your environment. Perhaps to your patched autoconf, perhaps to your config.site, perhaps to something else. If you can find a way that someone other than you can reproduce, we can look into it further. Otherwise, I plan to make the automake release in a few days. Thanks, Karl (*) Created the automake-1.17.92 installation in the usual way: tar xf automake-1.17.92.tar.xz ./configure --prefix=/tmp/am92 make && make install