From unknown Sat Aug 09 21:22:47 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#7772 <7772@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#7772 <7772@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: 24.0.50; Documentation Bug: set-scroll-bar-mode Reply-To: bug#7772 <7772@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2025 04:22:47 +0000 retitle 7772 24.0.50; Documentation Bug: set-scroll-bar-mode reassign 7772 emacs submitter 7772 Tim Cross severity 7772 minor tag 7772 fixed thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Jan 02 18:10:13 2011 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Jan 2011 23:10:13 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PZX40-0000Vt-R9 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 02 Jan 2011 18:10:13 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PZWwZ-0000Ll-SA for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 02 Jan 2011 18:02:33 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PZX3P-0002Rh-0C for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 02 Jan 2011 18:09:36 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, RFC_ABUSE_POST, T_FRT_FOLLOW1, T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.1 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]:50931) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PZX3O-0002Rd-Sp for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 02 Jan 2011 18:09:34 -0500 Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=44502 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PZX3N-0001gD-7A for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 02 Jan 2011 18:09:34 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PZX3L-0002RE-HH for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 02 Jan 2011 18:09:33 -0500 Received: from ipmail06.adl2.internode.on.net ([150.101.137.129]:6198) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PZX3K-0002P0-M6 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 02 Jan 2011 18:09:31 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av0EAMmRIE15LEAZ/2dsb2JhbACWFQGOHXStC4VqLoZrgxKCOASFIYVj Received: from ppp121-44-64-25.lns20.syd6.internode.on.net (HELO puma.rapttech.com.au) ([121.44.64.25]) by ipmail06.adl2.internode.on.net with ESMTP; 03 Jan 2011 09:39:27 +1030 From: Tim Cross To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 24.0.50; Documentation Bug: set-scroll-bar-mode Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2011 10:12:20 +1100 Message-ID: <87hbdqnbmz.fsf@puma.rapttech.com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Spam-Score: -4.1 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 02 Jan 2011 18:10:11 -0500 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.4 (----) I think the documentation for set-scroll-bar-mode is lacking. i.e. ,----[ C-h f set-scroll-bar-mode RET ] | set-scroll-bar-mode is a compiled Lisp function in `scroll-bar.el'. | | (set-scroll-bar-mode VALUE) | | Set `scroll-bar-mode' to VALUE and put the new value into effect. | | [back] `---- While this is accurate, it provides no additional explination or benefit.. At the very least, it should probably mention that value can be nil, 'left or 'right and what these different values mean. ,----[ C-h f set-scroll-bar-mode RET ] | set-scroll-bar-mode is a compiled Lisp function in `scroll-bar.el'. | | (set-scroll-bar-mode VALUE) | | Specifies whether to have vertical scroll bars and where to place them. | | Possible values are nil (no scroll bars), `left' (scroll bars on left) | and `right' (scroll bars on right). | | [back] `---- In GNU Emacs 24.0.50.1 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.22.0) of 2010-12-28 on puma Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.10900000 configured using `configure '--prefix=/usr/local'' Important settings: value of $LC_ALL: nil value of $LC_COLLATE: nil value of $LC_CTYPE: nil value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil value of $LC_MONETARY: nil value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil value of $LC_TIME: nil value of $LANG: en_AU.utf8 value of $XMODIFIERS: nil locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix default enable-multibyte-characters: t Major mode: Lisp Interaction Minor modes in effect: show-paren-mode: t display-time-mode: t shell-dirtrack-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t abbrev-mode: t Recent input: e SPC u s e f u l w h e n SPC r u n SPC I SPC t h i n k SPC I ' l l SPC l o g SPC a SPC b u g SPC r e p o r t SPC f o r SPC s e t - s c r o l l - b a r - m o d e , SPC . 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From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jul 14 13:13:13 2011 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Jul 2011 17:13:13 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QhPTN-0005Kx-IZ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 13:13:13 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QhPTL-0005Kl-Ks for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 13:13:12 -0400 Received: from cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no ([84.215.51.58] helo=quimbies.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QhPTA-00059w-OM for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 19:13:00 +0200 Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 19:13:00 +0200 Message-Id: To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #7772 X-MailScanner-ID: 1QhPTA-00059w-OM X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1311268380.90354@oZQX2PIlyHjQe9KfgIz/pA X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) tags 7772 fixed close 7772 24.1 From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jul 14 13:44:46 2011 Received: (at 7772) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Jul 2011 17:44:46 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QhPxq-0007lO-It for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 13:44:46 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QhPxe-0007kD-IK for 7772@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 13:44:34 -0400 Received: from cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no ([84.215.51.58] helo=quimbies.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QhPxR-0005h0-Sb; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 19:44:17 +0200 From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen To: Tim Cross Subject: Re: 24.0.50; Documentation Bug: set-scroll-bar-mode In-Reply-To: <87hbdqnbmz.fsf@puma.rapttech.com.au> (Tim Cross's message of "Mon, 03 Jan 2011 10:12:20 +1100") Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 19:12:58 +0200 Message-ID: References: <87hbdqnbmz.fsf@puma.rapttech.com.au> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Now-Playing: Joni Mitchell's _Court and Spark_: "Just Like This Train" X-Hashcash: 1:23:110714:theophilusx@gmail.com::cotcSlqs5WcJ+7lh:0000000000000000000000000000000000000000D7hw X-Hashcash: 1:23:110714:7772@debbugs.gnu.org::hBuUTi8dpAjO1IxE:00000000000000000000000000000000000000000HBWY MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1QhPxR-0005h0-Sb X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1311270259.2715@cLAxS3a/AjOeE6Tj362YUQ X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 7772 Cc: 7772@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) Tim Cross writes: > While this is accurate, it provides no additional explination or benefit.. > At the very least, it should probably mention that value can be nil, > 'left or 'right and what these different values mean. > > ,----[ C-h f set-scroll-bar-mode RET ] > | set-scroll-bar-mode is a compiled Lisp function in `scroll-bar.el'. > | > | (set-scroll-bar-mode VALUE) > | > | Specifies whether to have vertical scroll bars and where to place them. > | > | Possible values are nil (no scroll bars), `left' (scroll bars on left) > | and `right' (scroll bars on right). > | > | [back] > `---- Repeating these values is probably not the right way to do this, but I've changed the doc string to mention that the `scroll-bar-mode' variable lists the possible values. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/ From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jul 14 20:50:28 2011 Received: (at 7772) by debbugs.gnu.org; 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Thu, 14 Jul 2011 17:50:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.176.1 with HTTP; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 17:50:20 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <87hbdqnbmz.fsf@puma.rapttech.com.au> Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 10:50:20 +1000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: 24.0.50; Documentation Bug: set-scroll-bar-mode From: Tim Cross To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -3.6 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 7772 Cc: 7772@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -3.6 (---) On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 3:12 AM, Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen wrote: > Tim Cross writes: > >> While this is accurate, it provides no additional explination or benefit.. >> At the very least, it should probably mention that value can be nil, >> 'left or 'right and what these different values mean. >> >> ,----[ C-h f set-scroll-bar-mode RET ] >> | set-scroll-bar-mode is a compiled Lisp function in `scroll-bar.el'. >> | >> | (set-scroll-bar-mode VALUE) >> | >> | Specifies whether to have vertical scroll bars and where to place them. >> | >> | Possible values are nil (no scroll bars), `left' (scroll bars on left) >> | and `right' (scroll bars on right). >> | >> | [back] >> `---- > > Repeating these values is probably not the right way to do this, but > I've changed the doc string to mention that the `scroll-bar-mode' > variable lists the possible values. > Seems perfectly reasonable to me. 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