GNU bug report logs - #77655
29.4; Emacs Lucid MenuBar/Item Cursor Icon Size

Previous Next

To reply to this bug, email your comments to 77655 AT debbugs.gnu.org.

Toggle the display of automated, internal messages from the tracker.

Message #5 received at submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: RDS <rds1944 <at> gmail.com>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Cc: RDS <rds1944 <at> gmail.com>
Subject: 29.4; Emacs Lucid MenuBar/Item Cursor Icon Size
Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2025 13:46:43 -0700

[Message part 1 (text/plain, inline)]

From: rds1944 <at> gmail.com
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 29.4; Emacs Lucid MenuBar/Item Cursor Icon Size
--text follows this line--

The .Xresources file sets Xcursor.theme:Adwaita & Xcursor.size:48.
This cursor is just fine in the text body & in the toolbar, as expected.
But, in the menubar & the menuitems, the pointer is far smaller, in fact
barely visible. It's only a few pxls high.

Many tests have been tried with numerous other themes & cursor
sizes. Yet the menubar/item cursor icon is always tiny.

Is there a Xresource that controls this?

emacs.pane.menubar.cursor.size: ???

Is this a bug?

Thanks

Guido

In GNU Emacs 29.4 (build 1, x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu, X toolkit, cairo
 version 1.18.2, Xaw3d scroll bars) of 2025-03-13 built on
 0cbb79ebeb714371b64bef3269323882
Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.12101016
System Description: Fedora Linux 41 (Forty One)

Configured using:
 'configure --build=x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu
 --host=x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu --program-prefix=
 --disable-dependency-tracking --prefix=/usr --exec-prefix=/usr
 --bindir=/usr/bin --sbindir=/usr/sbin --sysconfdir=/etc
 --datadir=/usr/share --includedir=/usr/include --libdir=/usr/lib64
 --libexecdir=/usr/libexec --localstatedir=/var --runstatedir=/run
 --sharedstatedir=/var/lib --mandir=/usr/share/man
 --infodir=/usr/share/info --with-cairo --with-dbus --with-gif
 --with-gpm=no --with-harfbuzz --with-jpeg --with-json --with-modules
 --with-native-compilation=aot --with-png --with-rsvg --with-sqlite3
 --with-tiff --with-tree-sitter --with-webp --with-x-toolkit=lucid
 --with-xft --with-xinput2 --with-xpm
 build_alias=x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu host_alias=x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu
 CC=gcc 'CFLAGS=-DMAIL_USE_LOCKF -O2 -flto=auto -ffat-lto-objects
 -fexceptions -g -grecord-gcc-switches -pipe -Wall
 -Werror=format-security -Wp,-U_FORTIFY_SOURCE,-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=3
 -Wp,-D_GLIBCXX_ASSERTIONS
 -specs=/usr/lib/rpm/redhat/redhat-hardened-cc1 -fstack-protector-strong
 -specs=/usr/lib/rpm/redhat/redhat-annobin-cc1 -m64 -march=x86-64
 -mtune=generic -fasynchronous-unwind-tables -fstack-clash-protection
 -fcf-protection -mtls-dialect=gnu2 -fno-omit-frame-pointer
 -mno-omit-leaf-frame-pointer ' 'LDFLAGS=-Wl,-z,relro -Wl,--as-needed
 -Wl,-z,pack-relative-relocs -Wl,-z,now
 -specs=/usr/lib/rpm/redhat/redhat-hardened-ld
 -specs=/usr/lib/rpm/redhat/redhat-annobin-cc1 -Wl,--build-id=sha1
 -specs=/usr/lib/rpm/redhat/redhat-package-notes '
 PKG_CONFIG_PATH=:/usr/lib64/pkgconfig:/usr/share/pkgconfig CXX=g++
 'CXXFLAGS=-O2 -flto=auto -ffat-lto-objects -fexceptions -g
 -grecord-gcc-switches -pipe -Wall -Werror=format-security
 -Wp,-U_FORTIFY_SOURCE,-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=3 -Wp,-D_GLIBCXX_ASSERTIONS
 -specs=/usr/lib/rpm/redhat/redhat-hardened-cc1 -fstack-protector-strong
 -specs=/usr/lib/rpm/redhat/redhat-annobin-cc1 -m64 -march=x86-64
 -mtune=generic -fasynchronous-unwind-tables -fstack-clash-protection
 -fcf-protection -mtls-dialect=gnu2 -fno-omit-frame-pointer
 -mno-omit-leaf-frame-pointer ''

Configured features:
ACL CAIRO DBUS FREETYPE GIF GLIB GMP GNUTLS GSETTINGS HARFBUZZ JPEG JSON
LIBOTF LIBSELINUX LIBSYSTEMD LIBXML2 M17N_FLT MODULES NATIVE_COMP NOTIFY
INOTIFY PDUMPER PNG RSVG SECCOMP SOUND SQLITE3 THREADS TIFF
TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS TREE_SITTER WEBP X11 XAW3D XDBE XIM XINPUT2 XPM
LUCID ZLIB

Important settings:
  value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8
  locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix

Major mode: Dired by name

Minor modes in effect:
  server-mode: t
  xterm-mouse-mode: t
  tooltip-mode: t
  global-eldoc-mode: t
  show-paren-mode: t
  mouse-wheel-mode: t
  tool-bar-mode: t
  menu-bar-mode: t
  file-name-shadow-mode: t
  global-font-lock-mode: t
  font-lock-mode: t
  blink-cursor-mode: t
  buffer-read-only: t
  column-number-mode: t
  line-number-mode: t
  indent-tabs-mode: t
  transient-mark-mode: t
  auto-composition-mode: t
  auto-encryption-mode: t
  auto-compression-mode: t

Load-path shadows:
None found.

Features:
(shadow sort mail-extr emacsbug message mailcap yank-media puny rfc822
mml mml-sec epa epg rfc6068 epg-config gnus-util text-property-search
mm-decode mm-bodies mm-encode mail-parse rfc2231 mailabbrev gmm-utils
mailheader dired-aux dired dired-loaddefs server derived xt-mouse
time-date comp comp-cstr warnings icons rx cl-extra help-mode smtpmail
auth-source cl-seq eieio eieio-core cl-macs cl-loaddefs cl-lib
password-cache json subr-x map byte-opt gv bytecomp byte-compile
sendmail rfc2047 rfc2045 ietf-drums mm-util mail-prsvr mail-utils rmc
iso-transl tooltip cconv eldoc paren electric uniquify ediff-hook
vc-hooks lisp-float-type elisp-mode mwheel term/x-win x-win
term/common-win x-dnd tool-bar dnd fontset image regexp-opt fringe
tabulated-list replace newcomment text-mode lisp-mode prog-mode register
page tab-bar menu-bar rfn-eshadow isearch easymenu timer select
scroll-bar mouse jit-lock font-lock syntax font-core term/tty-colors
frame minibuffer nadvice seq simple cl-generic indonesian philippine
cham georgian utf-8-lang misc-lang vietnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao
korean japanese eucjp-ms cp51932 hebrew greek romanian slovak czech
european ethiopic indian cyrillic chinese composite emoji-zwj charscript
charprop case-table epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook help abbrev obarray oclosure
cl-preloaded button loaddefs theme-loaddefs faces cus-face macroexp
files window text-properties overlay sha1 md5 base64 format env
code-pages mule custom widget keymap hashtable-print-readable backquote
threads dbusbind inotify dynamic-setting system-font-setting
font-render-setting cairo x-toolkit xinput2 x multi-tty
make-network-process native-compile emacs)

Memory information:
((conses 16 97038 9138)
 (symbols 48 8074 0)
 (strings 32 24587 3003)
 (string-bytes 1 725101)
 (vectors 16 18437)
 (vector-slots 8 379018 19584)
 (floats 8 48 36)
 (intervals 56 727 0)
 (buffers 984 15))

[Message part 2 (text/html, inline)]

Message #8 received at 77655 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: RDS <rds1944 <at> gmail.com>, Po Lu <luangruo <at> yahoo.com>
Cc: 77655 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#77655: 29.4; Emacs Lucid MenuBar/Item Cursor Icon Size
Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2025 14:14:58 +0300

> Cc: RDS <rds1944 <at> gmail.com>
> From: RDS <rds1944 <at> gmail.com>
> Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2025 13:46:43 -0700
> 
> The .Xresources file sets Xcursor.theme:Adwaita & Xcursor.size:48.
> This cursor is just fine in the text body & in the toolbar, as expected.
> But, in the menubar & the menuitems, the pointer is far smaller, in fact
> barely visible. It's only a few pxls high.
> 
> Many tests have been tried with numerous other themes & cursor
> sizes. Yet the menubar/item cursor icon is always tiny.
> 
> Is there a Xresource that controls this?
> 
> emacs.pane.menubar.cursor.size: ???
> 
> Is this a bug?

Po Lu, any comments or suggestions?

Message #11 received at 77655 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Po Lu <luangruo <at> yahoo.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: RDS <rds1944 <at> gmail.com>, 77655 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#77655: 29.4; Emacs Lucid MenuBar/Item Cursor Icon Size
Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2025 09:31:51 +0800

Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes:

>> Cc: RDS <rds1944 <at> gmail.com>
>> From: RDS <rds1944 <at> gmail.com>
>> Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2025 13:46:43 -0700
>> 
>> The .Xresources file sets Xcursor.theme:Adwaita & Xcursor.size:48.
>> This cursor is just fine in the text body & in the toolbar, as expected.
>> But, in the menubar & the menuitems, the pointer is far smaller, in fact
>> barely visible. It's only a few pxls high.
>> 
>> Many tests have been tried with numerous other themes & cursor
>> sizes. Yet the menubar/item cursor icon is always tiny.
>> 
>> Is there a Xresource that controls this?
>> 
>> emacs.pane.menubar.cursor.size: ???
>> 
>> Is this a bug?
>
> Po Lu, any comments or suggestions?

OP, have you attempted to examine Emacs with editres?

Message #14 received at 77655 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: RDS <rds1944 <at> gmail.com>
To: 77655 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Cc: RDS <rds1944 <at> gmail.com>
Subject: Emacs menubar icon size
Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2025 08:54:14 -0700

[Message part 1 (text/plain, inline)]

appres Xcursor emacs output


emacs.dialog*font:	helvetica-16
emacs.pane.menubar.background:	gray80
emacs.pane.menubar.font:	helvetica-20
emacs.pane.menubar.foreground:	black
emacs.popup*font:	helvetica-16
emacs.background:	white
emacs.font:	hack 16
emacs.foreground:	black
emacs.geometry:	90x30
Xcursor.size:	48
Xcursor.theme:	Adwaita


as expected.

editres tree appears normal.

Emacs of earlier releases did not have this quirk. Cannot recall when that
was OK>

[Message part 2 (text/html, inline)]

Message #17 received at 77655 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: RDS <rds1944 <at> gmail.com>, Po Lu <luangruo <at> yahoo.com>
Cc: 77655 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#77655: Emacs menubar icon size
Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2025 14:44:12 +0300

> Cc: RDS <rds1944 <at> gmail.com>
> From: RDS <rds1944 <at> gmail.com>
> Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2025 08:54:14 -0700
> 
> appres Xcursor emacs output
> 
> emacs.dialog*font:	helvetica-16
> emacs.pane.menubar.background:	gray80
> emacs.pane.menubar.font:	helvetica-20
> emacs.pane.menubar.foreground:	black
> emacs.popup*font:	helvetica-16
> emacs.background:	white
> emacs.font:	hack 16
> emacs.foreground:	black
> emacs.geometry:	90x30
> Xcursor.size:	48
> Xcursor.theme:	Adwaita
> 
> as expected.
> 
> editres tree appears normal.
> 
> Emacs of earlier releases did not have this quirk. Cannot recall when that was OK>

Po Lu, any further ideas or suggestions?

Message #20 received at 77655 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Po Lu <luangruo <at> yahoo.com>
Cc: RDS <rds1944 <at> gmail.com>, 77655 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#77655: Emacs menubar icon size
Date: Sat, 10 May 2025 12:39:35 +0300

Ping! Po Lu, would you please respond?

> From: RDS <rds1944 <at> gmail.com>
> Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2025 17:19:10 -0700
> Cc: RDS <rds1944 <at> gmail.com>
> 
> Forgot to mention that this issue is derived from Fedora releases 42 & 41. I have posted these concerns on
> the RedHat Bugzilla web site. There has been no response to this date.
> 
> On Sat, Apr 26, 2025 at 4:44 AM Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> wrote:
> 
>  > Cc: RDS <rds1944 <at> gmail.com>
>  > From: RDS <rds1944 <at> gmail.com>
>  > Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2025 08:54:14 -0700
>  > 
>  > appres Xcursor emacs output
>  > 
>  > emacs.dialog*font:    helvetica-16
>  > emacs.pane.menubar.background:        gray80
>  > emacs.pane.menubar.font:      helvetica-20
>  > emacs.pane.menubar.foreground:        black
>  > emacs.popup*font:     helvetica-16
>  > emacs.background:     white
>  > emacs.font:   hack 16
>  > emacs.foreground:     black
>  > emacs.geometry:       90x30
>  > Xcursor.size: 48
>  > Xcursor.theme:        Adwaita
>  > 
>  > as expected.
>  > 
>  > editres tree appears normal.
>  > 
>  > Emacs of earlier releases did not have this quirk. Cannot recall when that was OK>
> 
>  Po Lu, any further ideas or suggestions?

Message #23 received at 77655 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: luangruo <at> yahoo.com
Cc: rds1944 <at> gmail.com, 77655 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#77655: Emacs menubar icon size
Date: Sat, 24 May 2025 11:53:45 +0300

Ping! Ping!

> Cc: RDS <rds1944 <at> gmail.com>, 77655 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Sat, 10 May 2025 12:39:35 +0300
> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
> 
> Ping! Po Lu, would you please respond?
> 
> > From: RDS <rds1944 <at> gmail.com>
> > Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2025 17:19:10 -0700
> > Cc: RDS <rds1944 <at> gmail.com>
> > 
> > Forgot to mention that this issue is derived from Fedora releases 42 & 41. I have posted these concerns on
> > the RedHat Bugzilla web site. There has been no response to this date.
> > 
> > On Sat, Apr 26, 2025 at 4:44 AM Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> wrote:
> > 
> >  > Cc: RDS <rds1944 <at> gmail.com>
> >  > From: RDS <rds1944 <at> gmail.com>
> >  > Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2025 08:54:14 -0700
> >  > 
> >  > appres Xcursor emacs output
> >  > 
> >  > emacs.dialog*font:    helvetica-16
> >  > emacs.pane.menubar.background:        gray80
> >  > emacs.pane.menubar.font:      helvetica-20
> >  > emacs.pane.menubar.foreground:        black
> >  > emacs.popup*font:     helvetica-16
> >  > emacs.background:     white
> >  > emacs.font:   hack 16
> >  > emacs.foreground:     black
> >  > emacs.geometry:       90x30
> >  > Xcursor.size: 48
> >  > Xcursor.theme:        Adwaita
> >  > 
> >  > as expected.
> >  > 
> >  > editres tree appears normal.
> >  > 
> >  > Emacs of earlier releases did not have this quirk. Cannot recall when that was OK>
> > 
> >  Po Lu, any further ideas or suggestions?
> 
> 
> 
> 

Message #26 received at 77655 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: RDS <rds1944 <at> gmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: luangruo <at> yahoo.com, 77655 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#77655: Emacs menubar icon size
Date: Sat, 24 May 2025 09:07:34 -0700

[Message part 1 (text/plain, inline)]

All gtk versions of emacs experience congenital limitations in server mode
with extra displays. This alone signifies the value in continued
maintenance of the lucid/xaw GUI despite the community wide switch to
wayland. Xwayland functionality should extend the older X version well into
the future.



On Sat, May 24, 2025 at 1:53 AM Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> wrote:

> Ping! Ping!
>
> > Cc: RDS <rds1944 <at> gmail.com>, 77655 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> > Date: Sat, 10 May 2025 12:39:35 +0300
> > From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
> >
> > Ping! Po Lu, would you please respond?
> >
> > > From: RDS <rds1944 <at> gmail.com>
> > > Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2025 17:19:10 -0700
> > > Cc: RDS <rds1944 <at> gmail.com>
> > >
> > > Forgot to mention that this issue is derived from Fedora releases 42 &
> 41. I have posted these concerns on
> > > the RedHat Bugzilla web site. There has been no response to this date.
> > >
> > > On Sat, Apr 26, 2025 at 4:44 AM Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> wrote:
> > >
> > >  > Cc: RDS <rds1944 <at> gmail.com>
> > >  > From: RDS <rds1944 <at> gmail.com>
> > >  > Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2025 08:54:14 -0700
> > >  >
> > >  > appres Xcursor emacs output
> > >  >
> > >  > emacs.dialog*font:    helvetica-16
> > >  > emacs.pane.menubar.background:        gray80
> > >  > emacs.pane.menubar.font:      helvetica-20
> > >  > emacs.pane.menubar.foreground:        black
> > >  > emacs.popup*font:     helvetica-16
> > >  > emacs.background:     white
> > >  > emacs.font:   hack 16
> > >  > emacs.foreground:     black
> > >  > emacs.geometry:       90x30
> > >  > Xcursor.size: 48
> > >  > Xcursor.theme:        Adwaita
> > >  >
> > >  > as expected.
> > >  >
> > >  > editres tree appears normal.
> > >  >
> > >  > Emacs of earlier releases did not have this quirk. Cannot recall
> when that was OK>
> > >
> > >  Po Lu, any further ideas or suggestions?
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

[Message part 2 (text/html, inline)]

Message #29 received at 77655 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: luangruo <at> yahoo.com
Cc: rds1944 <at> gmail.com, 77655 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#77655: Emacs menubar icon size
Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2025 11:16:49 +0300

Ping! Ping! Ping!  Po Lu, would you please respond?

> Cc: rds1944 <at> gmail.com, 77655 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Sat, 24 May 2025 11:53:45 +0300
> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
> 
> Ping! Ping!
> 
> > Cc: RDS <rds1944 <at> gmail.com>, 77655 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> > Date: Sat, 10 May 2025 12:39:35 +0300
> > From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
> > 
> > Ping! Po Lu, would you please respond?
> > 
> > > From: RDS <rds1944 <at> gmail.com>
> > > Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2025 17:19:10 -0700
> > > Cc: RDS <rds1944 <at> gmail.com>
> > > 
> > > Forgot to mention that this issue is derived from Fedora releases 42 & 41. I have posted these concerns on
> > > the RedHat Bugzilla web site. There has been no response to this date.
> > > 
> > > On Sat, Apr 26, 2025 at 4:44 AM Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> wrote:
> > > 
> > >  > Cc: RDS <rds1944 <at> gmail.com>
> > >  > From: RDS <rds1944 <at> gmail.com>
> > >  > Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2025 08:54:14 -0700
> > >  > 
> > >  > appres Xcursor emacs output
> > >  > 
> > >  > emacs.dialog*font:    helvetica-16
> > >  > emacs.pane.menubar.background:        gray80
> > >  > emacs.pane.menubar.font:      helvetica-20
> > >  > emacs.pane.menubar.foreground:        black
> > >  > emacs.popup*font:     helvetica-16
> > >  > emacs.background:     white
> > >  > emacs.font:   hack 16
> > >  > emacs.foreground:     black
> > >  > emacs.geometry:       90x30
> > >  > Xcursor.size: 48
> > >  > Xcursor.theme:        Adwaita
> > >  > 
> > >  > as expected.
> > >  > 
> > >  > editres tree appears normal.
> > >  > 
> > >  > Emacs of earlier releases did not have this quirk. Cannot recall when that was OK>
> > > 
> > >  Po Lu, any further ideas or suggestions?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> 

Previous Next

GNU bug tracking system
Copyright (C) 1999 Darren O. Benham, 1997,2003 nCipher Corporation Ltd, 1994-97 Ian Jackson.