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23.2; mpc.el relies too much on the toolbar

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From: David Bremner <bremner <at> debian.org>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Cc: monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca
Subject: 23.2; mpc.el relies too much on the toolbar
Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2010 09:04:22 -0400

It seems there are no equivalent keybindings for the buttons in the
toolbar. This means the mode is not very usable of people who disable
the toolbar, or who run emacs in a terminal. Please consider adding more
key bindings in the next release.


In GNU Emacs 23.2.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.20.1)
 of 2010-12-11 on brahms, modified by Debian
Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.10707000
configured using `configure  '--build' 'x86_64-linux-gnu' '--build' 'x86_64-linux-gnu' '--prefix=/usr' '--sharedstatedir=/var/lib' '--libexecdir=/usr/lib' '--localstatedir=/var/lib' '--infodir=/usr/share/info' '--mandir=/usr/share/man' '--with-pop=yes' '--enable-locallisppath=/etc/emacs23:/etc/emacs:/usr/local/share/emacs/23.2/site-lisp:/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/23.2/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/23.2/leim' '--with-x=yes' '--with-x-toolkit=gtk' '--with-toolkit-scroll-bars' 'build_alias=x86_64-linux-gnu' 'CFLAGS=-DDEBIAN -g -O2' 'LDFLAGS=-g' 'CPPFLAGS=''

Important settings:
  value of $LC_ALL: nil
  value of $LC_COLLATE: nil
  value of $LC_CTYPE: nil
  value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil
  value of $LC_MONETARY: nil
  value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil
  value of $LC_TIME: nil
  value of $LANG: en_CA.UTF-8
  value of $XMODIFIERS: nil
  locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix
  default enable-multibyte-characters: t

Major mode: MPC-Genres

Minor modes in effect:
  tooltip-mode: t
  mouse-wheel-mode: t
  tool-bar-mode: t
  menu-bar-mode: t
  file-name-shadow-mode: t
  global-font-lock-mode: t
  font-lock-mode: t
  blink-cursor-mode: t
  auto-encryption-mode: t
  auto-compression-mode: t
  line-number-mode: t
  transient-mark-mode: t

Recent input:
M-x m p c <return> M-x r e p o r SPC SPC SPC <retu
rn>

Recent messages:
For information about GNU Emacs and the GNU system, type C-h C-a.

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Message #8 received at submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca>
To: David Bremner <bremner <at> debian.org>
Cc: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: Re: 23.2; mpc.el relies too much on the toolbar
Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2010 12:02:08 -0500

> It seems there are no equivalent keybindings for the buttons in the
> toolbar. This means the mode is not very usable of people who disable
> the toolbar, or who run emacs in a terminal. Please consider adding more
> key bindings in the next release.

Thanks for using mpc.el ;-)

And yes, I completely agree.  For ttys we definitely need more
key-bindings (I currently use M-x when using mpc.el on a tty, which
works OK for my uses, but key-bindings would be welcome), and for GUI
frames without tool-bar I'd like to add a copy of the toolbar into the
mpc-status buffer (i.e. it wouldn't be a real "tool-bar" but would look
and feel pretty similar and should ideally be derived from the exact
same data).


        Stefan

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