GNU bug report logs - #77596
Emacs 30.1 secrets.el: Session not automatically re-established after Secret Service restart

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From: spam <dont.post.me <at> protonmail.com>
To: "bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org" <bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org>
Subject: Emacs 30.1 secrets.el: Session not automatically re-established after
 Secret Service restart
Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2025 19:55:25 +0000

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$ emacs -Q

(require 'secrets nil t)

(secrets-get-secret "Richie" "emacs auth source for org crypt")

"this work's because i had keepassxc open before emacs"

if i restart keepassxc and try again then i get a backtrace

Debugger entered--Lisp error: (dbus-error "org.freedesktop.Secret.Error.NoSession")

signal(dbus-error ("org.freedesktop.Secret.Error.NoSession"))

dbus-call-method(:session "org.freedesktop.secrets" "/org/freedesktop/secrets/collection/Richie/b25f5d1a9106417492657a0eae1db782" "org.freedesktop.Secret.Item" "GetSecret" :object-path "/")

secrets-get-secret("Richie" "emacs auth source for org crypt")

(progn (defvar my/ediff-pairs) (defvar my/video-file-regex) (defvar org-planfile) (defvar my/yogadora) (defvar my/yogabuntu) (defvar my/rakmac) (defvar my/oplmac) (defvar my/duckbookpro) (defvar my/yogadows) (secrets-get-secret "Richie" "emacs auth source for org crypt"))

eval((progn (defvar my/ediff-pairs) (defvar my/video-file-regex) (defvar org-planfile) (defvar my/yogadora) (defvar my/yogabuntu) (defvar my/rakmac) (defvar my/oplmac) (defvar my/duckbookpro) (defvar my/yogadows) (secrets-get-secret "Richie" "emacs auth source for org crypt")) t)

elisp--eval-last-sexp(nil)

#f(compiled-function () #<bytecode 0x298d38e0b8462>)()

handler-bind-1(#f(compiled-function () #<bytecode 0x298d38e0b8462>) (error) eval-expression--debug)

eval-last-sexp(nil)

funcall-interactively(eval-last-sexp nil)

call-interactively(eval-last-sexp nil nil)

command-execute(eval-last-sexp)

the session isn't refreshed. it's stale.

In GNU Emacs 30.1 (build 4, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.24.43,

cairo version 1.18.2) of 2025-04-05 built on fedora

Repository revision: 8ac894e2246f25d2a2a97d866b10e6e0b0fede5a

Repository branch: HEAD

System Description: Fedora Linux 41 (Workstation Edition)

Configured using:

'configure --with-x-toolkit=no --with-mailutils

--with-native-compilation --without-x --with-gnutls --with-threads

--with-modules --with-zlib --with-tree-sitter --with-sqlite3

--with-pgtk --with-rsvg'

Configured features:

CAIRO DBUS FREETYPE GIF GLIB GMP GNUTLS GSETTINGS HARFBUZZ JPEG

LIBSELINUX LIBSYSTEMD LIBXML2 MODULES NATIVE_COMP NOTIFY INOTIFY PDUMPER

PGTK PNG RSVG SECCOMP SOUND SQLITE3 THREADS TIFF TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS

TREE_SITTER WEBP XIM GTK3 ZLIB

Important settings:

value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8

value of $XMODIFIERS: @im=ibus

locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix

Major mode: ELisp/l

Minor modes in effect:

tooltip-mode: t

global-eldoc-mode: t

eldoc-mode: t

show-paren-mode: t

electric-indent-mode: t

mouse-wheel-mode: t

tool-bar-mode: t

menu-bar-mode: t

file-name-shadow-mode: t

global-font-lock-mode: t

font-lock-mode: t

blink-cursor-mode: t

minibuffer-regexp-mode: t

line-number-mode: t

indent-tabs-mode: t

transient-mark-mode: t

auto-composition-mode: t

auto-encryption-mode: t

auto-compression-mode: t

Load-path shadows:

None found.

Features:

(shadow sort mail-extr emacsbug message mailcap yank-media puny dired

dired-loaddefs rfc822 mml mml-sec password-cache epa derived epg rfc6068

epg-config gnus-util time-date mm-decode mm-bodies mm-encode mail-parse

rfc2231 mailabbrev gmm-utils mailheader sendmail rfc2047 rfc2045

ietf-drums mm-util mail-prsvr mail-utils help-fns radix-tree cl-print

byte-opt gv debug backtrace help-mode find-func compile

text-property-search comint ansi-osc ansi-color ring comp-run bytecomp

byte-compile comp-common rx display-line-numbers secrets dbus xml subr-x

vc-git diff-mode track-changes easy-mmode vc-dispatcher cl-loaddefs

cl-lib rmc iso-transl tooltip cconv eldoc paren electric uniquify

ediff-hook vc-hooks lisp-float-type elisp-mode mwheel term/pgtk-win

pgtk-win term/common-win touch-screen pgtk-dnd tool-bar dnd fontset

image regexp-opt fringe tabulated-list replace newcomment text-mode

lisp-mode prog-mode register page tab-bar menu-bar rfn-eshadow isearch

easymenu timer select scroll-bar mouse jit-lock font-lock syntax

font-core term/tty-colors frame minibuffer nadvice seq simple cl-generic

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composite emoji-zwj charscript charprop case-table epa-hook

jka-cmpr-hook help abbrev obarray oclosure cl-preloaded button loaddefs

theme-loaddefs faces cus-face macroexp files window text-properties

overlay sha1 md5 base64 format env code-pages mule custom widget keymap

hashtable-print-readable backquote threads dbusbind inotify

dynamic-setting system-font-setting font-render-setting cairo gtk pgtk

multi-tty move-toolbar make-network-process native-compile emacs)

Memory information:

((conses 16 110808 9473) (symbols 48 8237 0) (strings 32 29262 1738)

(string-bytes 1 879652) (vectors 16 17821)

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(buffers 992 16))

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Message #8 received at 77596 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus <at> gmx.de>
To: spam <dont.post.me <at> protonmail.com>
Cc: 77596 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#77596: Emacs 30.1 secrets.el: Session not automatically
 re-established after Secret Service restart
Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2025 13:05:45 +0200

spam <dont.post.me <at> protonmail.com> writes:

Hi,

> $ emacs -Q
>
> (require 'secrets nil t)
>
> (secrets-get-secret "Richie" "emacs auth source for org crypt")
>
> "this work's because i had keepassxc open before emacs"
>
> if i restart keepassxc and try again then i get a backtrace
>
> Debugger entered--Lisp error: (dbus-error "org.freedesktop.Secret.Error.NoSession")
>   signal(dbus-error ("org.freedesktop.Secret.Error.NoSession"))
>   dbus-call-method(:session "org.freedesktop.secrets" "/org/freedesktop/secrets/collection/Richie/b25f5d1a9106417492657a0eae1db782" "org.freedesktop.Secret.Item" "GetSecret" :object-path "/")
>   secrets-get-secret("Richie" "emacs auth source for org crypt")
>   (progn (defvar my/ediff-pairs) (defvar my/video-file-regex) (defvar org-planfile) (defvar my/yogadora) (defvar my/yogabuntu) (defvar my/rakmac) (defvar my/oplmac) (defvar my/duckbookpro) (defvar my/yogadows) (secrets-get-secret "Richie" "emacs auth source for org crypt"))
>   eval((progn (defvar my/ediff-pairs) (defvar my/video-file-regex) (defvar org-planfile) (defvar my/yogadora) (defvar my/yogabuntu) (defvar my/rakmac) (defvar my/oplmac) (defvar my/duckbookpro) (defvar my/yogadows) (secrets-get-secret "Richie" "emacs auth source for org crypt")) t)
>   elisp--eval-last-sexp(nil)
>   #f(compiled-function () #<bytecode 0x298d38e0b8462>)()
>   handler-bind-1(#f(compiled-function () #<bytecode 0x298d38e0b8462>) (error) eval-expression--debug)
>   eval-last-sexp(nil)
>   funcall-interactively(eval-last-sexp nil)
>   call-interactively(eval-last-sexp nil nil)
>   command-execute(eval-last-sexp)
>
> the session isn't refreshed. it's stale.

Does it help to re-evaluate secrets.el? Something like

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
M-x load-library RET secrets RET
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

Best regards, Michael.

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From: spam <dont.post.me <at> protonmail.com>
To: "77596 <at> debbugs.gnu.org" <77596 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
Subject: RE: Michael
Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2025 11:32:42 +0000

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Hey Michael,
Yea, if I M-x load-library RET secrets RET​ then it starts working again.

I know there's also (secrets-open-session t)​ which makes it start working again but that's not what you asked about.
Thanks!

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Message #16 received at 77596-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus <at> gmx.de>
To: "77596 <at> debbugs.gnu.org" <77596-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
Cc: spam <dont.post.me <at> protonmail.com>
Subject: Re: bug#77596: Michael
Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2025 18:47:22 +0200

spam via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text
editors" <bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org> writes:

> Hey Michael,

Hi,

> Yea, if I M-x load-library RET secrets RET​ then it starts working
> again.
> I know there's also (secrets-open-session t)​ which makes it start
> working again but that's not what you asked about.

Reloading secrets.el calls secrets-open-session internally, AND resets
some internal variables. So it looks safer to me.

So we don't need to do anything, I guess. Closing the bug.

> Thanks!

Best regards, Michael.

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From: spam <dont.post.me <at> protonmail.com>
To: "77596 <at> debbugs.gnu.org" <77596-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
Subject: RE: it's not a bug
Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2025 16:51:28 +0000

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Sorry if it sounds like I have a bad attitude but I want to understand. Are you saying that it's not a bug that it fails to get a secret if the secret service is restarted? Maybe I'm misunderstanding the issue.

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Message #24 received at 77596 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus <at> gmx.de>
To: "77596 <at> debbugs.gnu.org" <77596 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
Cc: spam <dont.post.me <at> protonmail.com>
Subject: Re: bug#77596: it's not a bug
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2025 08:20:44 +0200

spam via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text
editors" <bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org> writes:

Hi,

> Sorry if it sounds like I have a bad attitude but I want to
> understand. Are you saying that it's not a bug that it fails to get a
> secret if the secret service is restarted? Maybe I'm misunderstanding
> the issue.

Yes, it is not a bug. secrets.el is not designed to reestablish a
connection. If we want this, it is rather a feature request.

Don't know whether this is worth the work, since the fix is so simple.

Best regards, Michael.

PS: Since you don't Cc me, please don't change the initial
subject. Otherwise, it is likely I miss your reply. I don't read all
messages in the <bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org> ML.

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