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23.2.91; interactive code "r" error

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From: Thierry Volpiatto <thierry.volpiatto <at> gmail.com>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 23.2.91; interactive code "r" error
Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2010 09:24:11 +0100

Hi,
the interactive code "r" return an annoying error when the mark have not
been set at least one time in current-buffer.

,----
| The mark is not set now, so there is no region
`----

To reproduce use a code similar to this, use a new buffer where you
didn't set the mark (mark and unmark don't count)

(defun tv-delete-char (beg end arg)
  (interactive "r\np") ; [1]
  (if (and transient-mark-mode mark-active (/= (mark t) (point)))
      (delete-region beg end)
      (delete-char arg)))
;;==> The mark is not set now, so there is no region

When the mark have been set/unset at least one time, the code above work
as expected.

So it seem interactive with the flag "r" check if region is active and
return this error message at [1].

The following code work as expected:

(defun tv-delete-char (arg)
  (interactive "p")
  (if (and transient-mark-mode mark-active (/= (mark t) (point)))
      (delete-region (region-beginning) (region-end))
      (delete-char arg)))

PS: I know about region-active-p and use-region-p etc...


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tv-delete-char
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Message #10 received at 7737 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: Thierry Volpiatto <thierry.volpiatto <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 7737 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#7737: 23.2.91; interactive code "r" error
Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2021 10:44:52 +0200

Thierry Volpiatto <thierry.volpiatto <at> gmail.com> writes:

> the interactive code "r" return an annoying error when the mark have not
> been set at least one time in current-buffer.
>
> ,----
> | The mark is not set now, so there is no region
> `----
>
> To reproduce use a code similar to this, use a new buffer where you
> didn't set the mark (mark and unmark don't count)
>
> (defun tv-delete-char (beg end arg)
>   (interactive "r\np") ; [1]
>   (if (and transient-mark-mode mark-active (/= (mark t) (point)))
>       (delete-region beg end)
>       (delete-char arg)))
> ;;==> The mark is not set now, so there is no region
>
> When the mark have been set/unset at least one time, the code above work
> as expected.

(I'm going through old bug reports that unfortunately got no response at
the time.)

I'm not sure I understand this bug report.  If no mark has been set,
there is no region, so of course a command like this should signal an
error.  Is the request that there should be a variant of "r" that
doesn't signal an error, but just leaves the parameters as nil?

If so, I'm not sure that's really all that useful.  Anybody got any
opinions here?

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Message #15 received at 7737 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: Thierry Volpiatto <thierry.volpiatto <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 7737 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#7737: 23.2.91; interactive code "r" error
Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2021 15:23:57 +0200

Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org> writes:

> I'm not sure I understand this bug report.  If no mark has been set,
> there is no region, so of course a command like this should signal an
> error.  Is the request that there should be a variant of "r" that
> doesn't signal an error, but just leaves the parameters as nil?
>
> If so, I'm not sure that's really all that useful.  Anybody got any
> opinions here?

Nobody had within a month, so I'm closing this bug report.  If this
should receive more work, please respond to this email and we'll reopen
the bug report.

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