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Thu, 27 Mar 2025 19:29:01 +0800 From: Dan Jacobson To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 30.1; Could have just hit return X-Debbugs-Package: emacs,gnus Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2025 19:29:01 +0800 Message-ID: <87bjtmk8zm.3.fsf@jidanni.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Received-SPF: pass client-ip=23.83.212.47; envelope-from=jidanni@jidanni.org; helo=cyan.elm.relay.mailchannels.net X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_RPBL_BLOCKED=0.001, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_SAFE_BLOCKED=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) When we see 'Are you sure you want to quit reading news? (y or n)' it turns out hitting RET works the same as n. So say 'Are you sure you want to quit reading news? (y or n/RET)' etc. I.e., no more unnecessary hunting for n on the keyboard. 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(y or n)' > it turns out hitting RET works the same as n. > So say > 'Are you sure you want to quit reading news? (y or n/RET)' > etc. I.e., no more unnecessary hunting for n on the keyboard. I think the clear and readable prompt is more important than mentioning this obscure feature, that users will either stumble upon or not. I'd lean towards closing this as a wontfix. 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Fri, 28 Mar 2025 11:07:03 +0800 From: Dan Jacobson To: Stefan Kangas Subject: Re: bug#77307: 30.1; Could have just hit return References: <87bjtmk8zm.3.fsf@jidanni.org> Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2025 11:07:03 +0800 Message-ID: <87y0wplup4.7.fsf@jidanni.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 77307 Cc: 77307@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) One also notices in (describe-function 'y-or-n-p): > No confirmation of the answer is requested; a single character is > enough. SPC also means yes, and DEL means no. > To be precise.... but still it is not clear that just hitting RET equals "n". Or maybe it doesn't always. 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From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Mar 28 03:44:36 2025 Received: (at 77307) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Mar 2025 07:44:36 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52687 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ty4OJ-0002uJ-R7 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 28 Mar 2025 03:44:36 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:38426) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ty4OH-0002tc-KO for 77307@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 28 Mar 2025 03:44:34 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ty4OC-0004Li-7x; Fri, 28 Mar 2025 03:44:28 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=sWGhXyWgZB3cCRf7Mp2YI3ZRf239MZceN2iyTRCbUok=; b=noOogk2YvZ2s RQpuWOtbANCY+Z6GczoGa1UvxM0jHqgFYuVhqFU9dPenzcAaWLAsNKanOGbd1BaAM+BG2HPeLP4i6 KD8bDJcyK0q+kaUYFMTFQ/+zW/T+zzp8KFC5wnWzzq06+pUrVnvqHU5RxvkSHYhGxcMIoRi9CIG8b OEcj9emnX8wWVlCCeA4W0mdoiWa2u3UsZqsDIpBlvU09t+Lnepx0umYOk0yFm8phh95FX6RleIvo6 39weeWfek+kVe6Mjg/39oT+CkK6kwZpduu69HS1pRJ963ib/1qJS8gPsYQ6Gbt/dImgS1mvEKrAY1 UnuMEmZ7xT2ma0Wja0+pxQ==; Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2025 10:44:24 +0300 Message-Id: <86y0wpa9bb.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Dan Jacobson In-Reply-To: <87y0wplup4.7.fsf@jidanni.org> (message from Dan Jacobson on Fri, 28 Mar 2025 11:07:03 +0800) Subject: Re: bug#77307: 30.1; Could have just hit return References: <87bjtmk8zm.3.fsf@jidanni.org> <87y0wplup4.7.fsf@jidanni.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 77307 Cc: stefankangas@gmail.com, 77307@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Cc: 77307@debbugs.gnu.org > From: Dan Jacobson > Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2025 11:07:03 +0800 > > One also notices in (describe-function 'y-or-n-p): > > > No confirmation of the answer is requested; a single character is > > enough. SPC also means yes, and DEL means no. > > > To be precise.... > > but still it is not clear that just hitting RET equals "n". > Or maybe it doesn't always. RET means the default, whatever that is. 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Can the default please be revealed to the user? Yes, I know they can just hit RET to find out. But I'm talking about before they hit RET. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Mar 28 07:34:38 2025 Received: (at 77307) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Mar 2025 11:34:38 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53113 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ty7yw-0008RU-7p for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 28 Mar 2025 07:34:38 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:44084) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ty7ys-0008RC-Lu for 77307@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 28 Mar 2025 07:34:36 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ty7ym-0002OH-T4; Fri, 28 Mar 2025 07:34:28 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=5xNk8bbobeNDk1DMz3QAWOh7beFHUv3uF6lvOsN/nIU=; b=pGGdj/UpROZR dALicYQxWW51jHatSNMeV/2CMlApYEmeLEHK7NH/VN7lYAn3PQQNlYAlede9oZ1prAeVJYKQjPdjL jBCSogb4ZSONpX0xFF4Gv3znW/DsgAuuAymlYgtWd+pAp8w8KvOQpugXdaBZTSa4CwOLegCMDgeLK BVbf2ZdmSts/IaM3BO6rqZp+zBh5oNQCTJs0+IkaEgxK4+WpatQo5BrSaQKobqG9xD7/o0mzBDn1p pcq0RW3U7NtMCQatGyFgzlQmt8LeWKIx4LFaqHRv6uGxH9jElCKnlCLjH+UuFxE6wjF6DgJxprukr HjGoRGI6NFcE2xs8Hc8PWQ==; Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2025 14:34:18 +0300 Message-Id: <86o6xl9yo5.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Dan Jacobson In-Reply-To: <87msd5lhjv.7.fsf@jidanni.org> (message from Dan Jacobson on Fri, 28 Mar 2025 15:51:00 +0800) Subject: Re: bug#77307: 30.1; Could have just hit return References: <87bjtmk8zm.3.fsf@jidanni.org> <87y0wplup4.7.fsf@jidanni.org> <86y0wpa9bb.fsf@gnu.org> <87msd5lhjv.7.fsf@jidanni.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 77307 Cc: stefankangas@gmail.com, 77307@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Dan Jacobson > Cc: stefankangas@gmail.com, 77307@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2025 15:51:00 +0800 > > EZ> RET means the default, whatever that is. > > Can the default please be revealed to the user? It isn't always explicit in the call. Sometimes the code says something like "unless the user types "y", treat that as "n". In those cases, the function that actually prompts doesn't know what is "the default".